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AIBU to feel a bit shit for TM?

282 replies

AndWhat · 12/12/2018 08:03

Imagine achieving your life dream of becoming PM, being left to organise a shitstorm and then a load of your staff telling you you’re shit at organising shit and you get voted out.
I don’t think anyone who was brought in to lead brexit following Cameron’s hash up would have done a decent job and yet all TM will be known for is failing to manage brexit!

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OutPinked · 12/12/2018 13:24

I said it to DP the other night. Neither of us are fans of her or the Tories generally but there’s definitely a huge whiff of misogyny and sexism at play. I don’t think there’d be anywhere near as much vitriol had she a penis.

Mia1415 · 12/12/2018 13:30

I feel very sorry for her.

I don't agree with her on many things, but I do think she is trying to do her best in an absolutely impossible situation.

AdamNichol · 12/12/2018 13:40

she is trying to do her best

She's spent weeks championing her deal as the best it's going to be; then ditches the vote at the last minute. Why? If this is the best, why would a delay change anything?

She's had her moment to be the leader, even if it was to be swept off the stage; and she bottled it. Zero leadership. Now she faces being swept off the stage regardless.

JoeElliotsMullet · 12/12/2018 13:44

I feel sorry for her on a human level - I can't imagine going into work day after day trying to achieve the impossible while all around me are arguing, plotting, slagging me off and being of no help whatsoever.

However, her record as Home Secretary is despicable. So actually I don't feel sorry for her at all. I reckon she just couldn't resist taking the top job even though she knew it was a poisoned chalice, she probably figured it may as well be her because once Brexit happened (whichever way it happened) the Tories would lose the next election anyway and she wanted to say "I was Prime Minister, so ner" and then disappear into comfortable retirement. She's 62 - it's unlikely she'd ever get another shot at it.

StealthPolarBear · 12/12/2018 14:47

the local paper has photos of her doing at least half a dozen things every week without fail eg opening homeless shelters
Not a good example there to gain her popularity

jessstan2 · 12/12/2018 14:48

You're not unreasonable. Her politics are not mine but I think she shows great strength of character, a strong woman! Even if we don't agree with her. I feel sorry for her.

rainbowquack · 12/12/2018 15:04

I don't feel sorry for her. She saw an opportunity and grabbed it. She went in attempting to bare her teeth and show her determination, (rather than understanding) shouted 'strong and stable' and 'no deal is better than a bad deal' then proceeded to back track on everything she guaranteed (inc the disasterous GE that she said would never happen and giving away some of her party's power). Postponing the vote was the final straw. You can't postpone a vote just because you don't think You will win. That's ridiculous and something Trump like.

Her deal is shit, and not progressive at all.

Also, I feel it would be best to have a Leave campaigner in charge of Brexit because if when it fails, under TM, all we will hear is 'she was a remainer.' blah, blah, blah.

ja9r · 12/12/2018 20:09

I absolutely agree op.

SantaClauseMightWork · 12/12/2018 20:12

Only read the OP.
Well, she deserves it because of what she didn’t as interior minister. I won’t forgive her inflammatory can’t words and speeches. She is one of the people who laid foudnation of what Gove and Boris built later.

Stopwoofing · 12/12/2018 20:14

I can’t see what she’s done so wrong to justify this level of opprobrium - we won’t get a better deal. Cameron deliberately walked away from this shit as he put it, and nobody else will get s better one. We should never have major changes pushed through on one referendum with a tiny majority.

Perc0lator · 12/12/2018 20:17

I don’t feel the slightest bit sorry for her. I’ll save my sympathy for the victims of shitty Tory policies and of the chaos they’ve created through hubris and utter stupidity which, by the time they’ve finished, will be pretty much everybody.

Mumberjack · 12/12/2018 20:19

She puts me in mind of a half-dead marionette. Limbs jerking creepily in time to the Tories tune.
I bet she has wanted to resign for months and months but is being kept in the post, because no one else wants to inherit this utter shit show at this late stage.

my3bears · 12/12/2018 20:20

The pressure she's under is unimaginable. I feel for her. I hope this doesn't impact her health.

SantaClauseMightWork · 12/12/2018 20:21

Just because Cameron ran off to get rid of his responsibility, why should we feel sorry for May? Both are equally awful.

Loopytiles · 12/12/2018 20:24

None of the male leaver Tories wanted the job because they knew it was impossible. Easier to let the hardworking, already unpopular woman do it, then boot her out at their convenience.

AlexaShutUp · 12/12/2018 20:40

I hope this doesn't impact her health.

I was just watching some footage on the news from when she became PM. It's only a couple of years ago, but she has aged decades since then.

As I said further up the thread, I'm no fan of her politics, but it's bloody easy to criticise and a lot harder to do the job that she is doing. I know I couldn't do it.

ja9r · 12/12/2018 21:06

Phew. I'd have hated for her to get a no confidence vote. On a human level. I'm not into politics and may not have voted for her party or for brexit ... but I'm 100% convinced she's doing the best she can... and 95% sure there's no one else who could do a better job of it.

Lizzie48 · 12/12/2018 21:11

I'm pleased she's won as well; mainly because I can't stand the arch Brexiteers JRM, Johnson and Gove.

NotAnotherJaffaCake · 12/12/2018 21:13

Would it be an overreaction to move to JRMs constituency just so I can vote for someone other than him?

Allthewaves · 12/12/2018 21:14

I'm bloody cross with government for pulling this stunt. Last thing we need is a bloody leadership contest in the crucial part of brexit. Smacks of Tories putting themselves and needs first AGAIN and not thinking of people they represent

Lizzie48 · 12/12/2018 21:15

@NotAnotherJaffaCake

Lol, I'd love to be able to vote against him. Grin

hamburgers · 12/12/2018 21:21

I don't feel sorry for her at all.

Are we forgetting she got such a big head she'd thought she could get a huge majority in the House of Commons so called a general election? And then lost her majority.

Now she has to pander to the DUP to get any/all policies through, Brexit and non-Brexit related. I mean, what a fucking idiot. She's made her own bed, now she has to lie in it.

noodlenosefraggle · 13/12/2018 08:42

allthewaves It wasnt the government, it was the thoroughly self serving old boys network that is the European Research Group, deciding that internal arguments within the Tory Party was more important than actually governing the country when they are the party in government.

WendyWoofer · 13/12/2018 10:42

Are we forgetting she got such a big head she'd thought she could get a huge majority in the House of Commons so called a general election? And then lost her majority

Ate you for real? She had no choice than to call an election because as an unelected leader she had no mandate.

Peregrina · 13/12/2018 11:30

She had no choice than to call an election because as an unelected leader she had no mandate.

Then perhaps she would have been wiser not to keep saying that she wouldn't call an election.