AIBU to feel a bit shit for TM?

[AndWhat]

Imagine achieving your life dream of becoming PM, being left to organise a shitstorm and then a load of your staff telling you you’re shit at organising shit and you get voted out.
I don’t think anyone who was brought in to lead brexit following Cameron’s hash up would have done a decent job and yet all TM will be known for is failing to manage brexit!

I've never liked a Tory politician in my life but I have enormous respect for May. She's trying to sort out something - which if it's left unresolved will leave the country in even more shit than its already in. The other politicians are just playing politics, and the labour party just want an election, that's quite literally all they are motivated by - and I say that as a lifelong labour vote - never again. I don't think the rest of them have a clue of the impact that this is having particularly on the less well off in the country. Nobody else has any constructive solutions at all. I'm so angry with the lot of them.

I've also been practicing her calmness when dealing with annoying work colleagues - she's so professional.

If she doesn't go I might actually vote for her if she's still leader at the next election.

Completely agree. The problem wasn't Cameron calling the referendum per se but his sheer arrogance that we would vote remain so that the question didn't give any thought to what would happen if we jumped off a cliff and actually voted to leave.
Theresa May has inherited a complete shit storm where she would be damned either way. She 100% deserves a duvet day slugging on whiskey whilst watching Christmas films.

A change of leadership within the Tories cannot change anything. A change of party will alter the philosophy with which negotiations with the EU can occur. For example - the rights of EU workers in the UK is contentious. The Tories have made promises, but their record with regard to UK workers is for a retraction of rights (rightly or wrongly, for good or for ill, but that is what has occurred). A Labour government would be able to make better assurances, and use this to trade off other negotiations. Whether the entirety of a Labour deal would be better or worse is mere speculation.

Not remotely sorry for her.
She got the job not because she was anyone's choice but because she was the last candidate standing as Boris/Gove stabbed each other in the back, Leadsom shot herself in the foot.

She chose to trigger Article 50.
She was responsible for the racist debacle of Windrush deportations.
She's had no plan or strategy.
She has no money for libraries or hospitals but plenty to bribe the DUP.

Anyone remember this poem by the lovely Roger McGough?

I wanna be the leader
I wanna be the leader
Can I be the leader?
Can I? I can?
Promise? Promise?
Yippee I'm the leader
I'm the leader

OK what shall we do?

^ Pretty much sums up the last 2 years

TM took it on and has done her best to please everyone - Brexit with the number of EU benefits that the EU would allow. Only for her colleagues to backstab her and the people, she is doing her best for, to publically slate her, whatever she does. Corbyn has shown his true colours - he's nothing but an odious snake!

TM has more balls than the lot of them put together. I hope she stays and does the job she set out to do. I wouldn't trust any of the other fuckers!

^ This, 100%!

@WendyWoofer

I absolutely agree. I think we as a country were naive (due to the quite frankly awful and misleading information we were fed in the run up to the vote) in believing that it would be simple. Vote leave and, well, just leave! It was never going to be that simple. We have long running obligation in Europe and EU decision are now so deeply entrenched in our daily lives (WTD, H&S etc etc). The public were blindsided with the FOM argument and very little else was discussed.

TM was never ever going to be able to please everyone - a 49/51 split ensured that - and even less so the people whom she agreed with on principle (the remainers). Hats off to her for having the courage to implement democracy and go to Europe to make a deal that she probably wishes she didn't have to make. The referendum question was clear: Remain or leave. We did not, as a country, have all the different exit options, that is why we have a Government and PM to do what is in the best interests of the country. If we didn't like her take on it we should have voted her out at the election she called AFTER the referendum. You can't vote her in and then moan she's the wrong person for the job! Or should I say that the Tories are wrong for the job because in an election you vote for the party, not the person.

We must be the absolute laughing stock of Europe right now - and I say that knowing how the French must feel after Macron's recent and embarrassing concessions!

She has proven that she is not delivering on what she promised, shafting farmers and fishermen and so many more with the ridiculous deal she is allowing the EU to force on us.

She is weak and allowing the EU to get their own way again. I have never liked her, she is not a very good or strong politician, I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt but sadly she has proven she is not capable of delivering.

I just hope a better option is presented than her to lead us into what could be a very good move for the UK and our future.

Matt Hancock being interviewed just now by Victoria Derbyshire. He's incoherent - is he an alcoholic? It's very odd.

Corbyn is an odious snake and I hate the way that Labour have refused to take a strong stance on anything - they've vacillated on the sidelines - hoping to pick up the pieces when the Conservatives finally implode. They're spineless and clueless and Corbyn is a scruffy little Marxist who can't even dress properly at the fucking Cenotaph for the 100th anniversary of the armistice. I wouldn't want him representing this country on the world stage for anything.

Corbyn had that thing where they all quit and still he turned up
He’s as bad as any of them

I don't feel for her a jot. Her Home Office record, hostile environment, citizens of nowhere, queue-jumpers... It's chickens coming home to roost and I hope she lives to regret saying and doing all those hateful things.

She'll survive the vote anyway and we'll be stuck with her for at least another year. Which in a sense is OK, because looking at the shower of cunts who might take over, one has to surmise that she is the worst option apart from all the other worst ones. To coin a phrase.

I agree. I think she’s a waste of space but don’t think anyone could do any better .
Was always going to be a cluster fuck

I feel no sympathy for her whatsoever.
She has done everything she can to stay in power - only last week she was found to be in contempt of Parliament, because she didn't want to make legal advice public.
She allowed Amber Rudd to take the rap for her own disgusting record on Windrush.
She has created a vile, hostile environment.
George Osborne claims that the cabinet were all set to confirm all EU citizens' rights straight after the referendum, until one T May stopped them.
She has behaved appallingly to Remainers - it's really not OK simply to ignore and denigrate 48% of those who voted.
She was told by the most senior civil servant on no account to trigger Article 50 until she had a plan, but insisted that she knew better, which is why we are in this godawful mess now.
On and on she goes, thinking she knows better than everyone else, and trying to turn her pig-headed stupidity into a virtue, hoping that everyone will admire her endurance. She is utterly appalling.
That being said, it's the Tories, so it's entirely possible we'll end up with someone even worse.

@akerman summed it up perfectly

TM took it on and has done her best to please everyone

Which was probably the wrong thing to do. The country is diametrically opposed. You can please one side or the other. A compromise merely upset both sides.
She wanted to be hailed as the great healer, who brought unity and delivered a miraculous positive brexit. Failed on all counts, as was glaringly obvious from the outset.

@akerman, beautifully put! She's a grubby little racist with a God-complex.

Those pleading sexism have very short memories. Forgotten about John Major and 'the bastards' over Maastricht already??

I hope this shitstorm destroys the Tory party and puts them out of power for a generation. It's the only good that can come of this.

Tory rebels now confirming they'd need a 'time limited' delay on the withdrawal.

I went to a talk yesterday that was on the subject of the glass cliff

"The glass cliff is the phenomenon of women in leadership roles, such as executives in the corporate world and female political election candidates, being likelier than men to achieve leadership roles during periods of crisis or downturn, when the chance of failure is highest"

I feel bad for her - she's spent two years doing an incredibly difficult, thankless job being attacked from all sides. And now today she's been served up yet another triple decker shit sandwich, with a side order of shit. I think we are lucky to have someone like her who has stuck in there - I'm sure she has enough money to piss off with Phillip to some desert island somewhere completely unaffected by Brexit, but no she has chosen to see her commitments through. (And she didn't even want Brexit in the first place, she was a Remainer). I think even if you disagree with her politics her grit and tenacity is to be admired

I admire her for sticking to what must be a terrible situation to be in. I think she took the job knowing it would be extremely hard, but did so because the alternative was some Bozo (Boris) , a lightweight (Leadsom) or a weirdo (Gove). She cares too much for Britain to let that happen.

The people I feel contempt for are the Brexiteers who lied to the British people and have spent 2 years whining that they could have got a better deal (they couldn't), her colleagues who want power at any cost but mostly, for David Cameron for allowing the referendum to happen in the way that it did.

And as for the marxists masquerading as the labour party - they just want a police state with Russia in charge.

Here I am lifelong Labour voter feeling sorry for TM! There wasn't even a leader contest, everyone else just backed down or did a runner, they all knew Brexit was a poisoned chalice. I'm pretty disgusted with the behaviour in the commons this week, do they think this is some kind of joke? Labour, by adopting a default "vote against the government" stance have played nicely into the Brexiteers hands. I'm very concerned we are heading towards a populist hard right leadership, in which case women's reproductive rights will face a real threat. And this is now another fucking sideshow when the deadline to Brexit is creeping closer and closer and we are no where near prepared.

She rushed into Brexit by triggering Article 50 before a proper plan was in plan. The clock started ticking and everyone was scrambling, realising that leaving the EU wasn't as simple as they thought.

She should have slowed down, called a citizens assembly and actually found out why people voted to leave, and addressed those issues instead. Article 50 could have been triggered after that, and after a proper plan had been made.

Right now no one knows what they're doing, the whole thing is a mess, and the clock is still ticking.

That part is her fault.

*place, not plan

I hope this shitstorm destroys the Tory party and puts them out of power for a generation. It's the only good that can come of this.

I guess you like queuing for food, blackouts and no trains then? Because that's what the labour party marxists will deliver.

I think the best we can hope for is a new centralist party who have both compassion and a firm grasp of economics.

TM is a very arrogant woman who believed she could wade in and sort all of our countries problems out in an afternoon.
She is truly deluded.