AIBU to feel a bit shit for TM?

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Imagine achieving your life dream of becoming PM, being left to organise a shitstorm and then a load of your staff telling you you’re shit at organising shit and you get voted out.
I don’t think anyone who was brought in to lead brexit following Cameron’s hash up would have done a decent job and yet all TM will be known for is failing to manage brexit!

Rudd has such a tiny minority in her constituency they would never vote her as leader. Unless she got elected with a safe majority elsewhere.

She voted Remain, but had to negotiate Brexit.

The people who voted no confidence are doing nothing to suggest what the alternative will be.

After all the time, money and effort put into this deal, no one else, not Labour, not Lib Dem or Tory, has put forward a credible alternative.

At this late stage, this seems to be a cynical ploy for a No Deal Brexit; defaulting to the worst case scenario.

Unlikeable though she is, YADNBU OP

Unless she got elected with a safe majority elsewhere.

Were she to become leader, they'd move her to a safe seat for next election

Doesn't work like that.

I think 'sense of duty' is just another form of egotism tbh.
Is it 'her duty' to make a hash of this?

Totally agree with this.

As for 'She cares too much for Britain to let that happen.' –pahahaahaaahaaa. She cares about a narrow sort of Britain that exists mainly in her head and consists of white 'native' Brits who 'work hard' and don't dare to find themselves in a position where they need state support.

I have zero sympathy for May. She wanted the job (and must have known what it entails), she got the job.

She lied about (not) calling an election seven times, then did it, because she thought she could cement her position. Well, she got that wrong. Strong and stable my lily-white arse.

She’s a self-serving liar, but then who among the current crop of politicians isn’t? And I hate to say it, but better her as PM than Johnson, Gove or Reed-Mogg.

Doesn't work like that.

Yes it does. Constituency parties get to decide who their candidate will be in the election, but their decision can be effectively mandated by higher powers. When call-me-Dave wanted Jackie Doyle-Price to hold a seat, she was helicoptered into Thurrock from her native Sheffield. When she became his PPS, it was likely she would be moved to a safer seat (which shifted her narrative from 'for the people of Thurrock' to 'for the nation'); then he went so she stayed.

queuing for food, blackouts and no trains

So much like present-day Britain under the Tories for vast swathes of the population then

Do we want a Prime Minister that we pity and feel sorry for? She is supposed to be in charge and doing her job.

Totally agree OP but it isn’t something I share out loud.

She knew what she was taking on. Nobody forced her.

After the hostile environment, queue jumping and citizens of nowhere remarks I have zero sympathy.

She knew what she was taking on. Nobody forced her.

True enough but, again, I pose the question, if every single MP had said 'Sod that for a game of soldiers, I don't want to be in charge of Brexit' - what exactly would have happened? People leavers wanted and were adamant that 'Brexit means Brexit' and there was to be no renegading on the referendum result or the 'will of the people'. So, from that one can only conclude that someone (who 'know what they were taking on' and 'wasn't forced into it') HAD to take the position

She's our MP too, and I have to say I admire her ability to get on with things. She's stepped up where others stepped off. She's got a difficult job, whatever she does isn't going to please vast swathes of the public. She has an amazing local office to support her and tries to spend 1 day a week usually Friday in the local constituency - do you know the local paper has photos of her doing at least half a dozen things every week without fail eg opening homeless shelters or attending fundraising events or opening local school fairs, she shops locally and supports local businesses too.

Renauging - not renegading!

No one could achieve a deal that would be acceptable with the NI issue, it is not possible and all the hot air of going back and getting a better deal is a pile of shit.

They have no business destabilising the country any further than it already is.

Am so scared that a pro no deal-er will get in and take us to hell on a nationalist ego trip.

People leavers wanted and were adamant that 'Brexit means Brexit' and there was to be no renegading on the referendum result or the 'will of the people'.

Brexit means Brexit was her phrase. She made a rod for her own back as well as calling an election that back fired completly. Brexit is the moon on a stick.

I don't feel a bit shit for any Tory. They're a shower of shite.

@GhostofFrankGrimes It may have been her phrase but boy or boy did the leavers latch onto it. They want it to happen whatever the cost. If she didn't hold the election she had no mandate and was in a precarious 'Gordon Brown - we didn't vote for you' situation. At the end of the day her party won that election, and ipso facto she stayed as PM. Her party didn't oust her as leader at that time. The country didn't oust the Tories when they had the opportunity to do so. We have to stand by the Brexit vote but we don't have to stand by the election results with the same people voting? Democracy is democracy, we can't pick and choose what decisions we stand by.

You can empathise with someone without agreeing with them, or even liking them. I dislike the Tory party and always have done, but I still don't think TM deserves the way she's been stabbed in the back.

The actions of her party are disgusting too, I’m not usually one to say stuff like this- but I doubt they would have treated her that way had she been a man.

Puggles hits the nail on the head. I believe that she only got the job because no man wanted it. They thought I know, lets let May get the job and she can be the sacrificial lamb and damage her career and then we can take over afterwards. I'm sure there was a lot of scheming going on behind the scenes to get her into the job.

I have rtft but I feel so bad for her too, She deserves respect for taking the whole brexit on.
She should walk away, like David Cameron, it is a mess anyway and the lack of respect is disgusting. I do feel Mr Cameron should be questioned and held responsible for his dodgy actions, is he just off Scot-free to live his life.

jaxhog I guess you like queuing for food, blackouts and no trains then? Because that's what the labour party marxists will deliver.

Take your blinkers off. Under the Tories we have increased use of food banks and a fucking useless train service. And it was the Tories who were last responsible for regular blackouts during the 3-day week.

Why don't people engage their brains and do a bit of research before spouting such ill-informed bollocks?

Brexit is a poison chalice for whoever is Prime Minister. I honestly can't understand how anyone can actually want the job at the moment.

Yes, she has a sliver of sympathy from me, but I am not keen on her.

LMW1990 The country is being held to ransom by a party that has waged civil wage with itself over the Europe "issue" for at least a quarter of a century.

Nobody in the UK can agree what Brexit looks like, that's before anything is agreed with the EU.

Does the democracy of the Good Friday Agreement not count in all of this? The back stop is to protect the GFA. Nobody considered this prior to the 2016 referendum.

People whose benefits are cut off for missing an appointment have their very own personal mini-blackouts with the Tories too.