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is it really possible corbyn will get into in #10 ?

234 replies

paintinmyhairAgain · 09/12/2018 18:08

wtf ? why on earth would anyone with half a brain cell think that is a good thing ? if labour do succeed then hopefully he'd get ousted for someone else instead. the current government have left me very disillusioned but corbyn...really ??
what are your thoughts ?

OP posts:
RoseAndRose · 10/12/2018 08:28

"Whatever you think of Corbyn, there are millions of people who will never vote for labour whilst he is leader. That fact has to be acknowledged"

If you put getting power before labour movement principles, you get Blair. Ugh

dadshere · 10/12/2018 08:30

Let us hope so for the sake of the country. JC4PM

bellinisurge · 10/12/2018 08:30

Better a Blairite than Corbyn. Don't you want Labour to form a government? Stay in opposition and you achieve nothing.

Isitsixoclockalready · 10/12/2018 08:32

I'd be happy to see Labour elected. Sick of this horrible Tory government. Country needs a fresh start.

BabySharkAteMyHamster · 10/12/2018 08:33

I bloody hope he does.

Sick to death of seeing shiny faced tories beaming with joy as they cut open yet another food bank ribbon. We've given them exactly what they wanted.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 10/12/2018 08:34

How? With a knock at the door at 4 in the morning?

Hyperbole strong with this 1 it is (needs a yoda voice for effect)

By following through on both parts of the Leveson recommendations no surprise the media dont like him much. It really is like a right wing meme collection. Carry on with your anti Cobyn bingo statememnts you're definately making me chuckle on a boring monday morning. To those of you who have concrete reasons for not voting for him then I respect your opinion but to those who have no other reason than right wing headlines then arent you the lucky 1's to not have to experience lives that some of Labours policies will help.

Ive also noticed that a lot of people that call Corbyn 'dear leader' seem to clamour for the return of David Milliband and we're the cultists? That happened almost a decade ago ffs Grin

bellinisurge · 10/12/2018 08:36

If you are too young to remember what people like Corbyn are like in power then you are too young. Can't do much about that. Still won't vote Labour while he is leader.

Isitsixoclockalready · 10/12/2018 08:36

OP your first post was a little disrespectful. Just because not everyone agrees with your views, that doesn't mean that they lack intelligence.

Jayfee · 10/12/2018 08:41

I want a Labour government, not a Marxist one. With Brexit and Corbyn, we will be at serious risk of financial ruin as a country.

malificent7 · 10/12/2018 08:43

Besides capitalism has been such a great success ....NOT.
I'm not saying communism has either...socialiam however might be worth a go.

Ohmno · 10/12/2018 08:45

Are people really trying to argue that communists are somehow better than nazis.

Ljlsmum · 10/12/2018 08:46

Do people actually think businesses will all just leave cos they have to pay what's fair in their taxes? That's like cutting your nose off to spite your face. Losing an entire island of business cos they shoud pay what is right? No wonder this place is going to shit if people actually allow that as an excuse to let businesses off from paying taxes.

Holidayshopping · 10/12/2018 08:46

I think Kermit the frog would do a better job than the Tories have done.

I like JC for what it’s worth, but sadly I think he has too much baggage associated with him and the Labour Party probably do now need a new leader.

Jayfee · 10/12/2018 08:46

Tax breaks to the rich? The tax allowance for the lowest earners was increased under this government. The Beatles wrote the song Taxman when the 70s Labour govt. put the highest rate of tax to 95%.Even John Lennon wouldn't work to pay 95 pence on every extra pound he earned.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 10/12/2018 08:46

If you are too young to remember what people like Corbyn are like in power then you are too young

I remember watching the rot start with kinnock although I wanted him to get in so bad at the time and then Blair turned up and I dutifully voted for him to my own chagrine after he laid waste to a lot of Labours core principles to help the country out and continued down the Thatcher free market/neo-liberal path. Now I get a chance to vote for a Labour party I recognise, who gives a fuck if its Corbyn or someone else theyve brought up in the last 2 elections, theyve at least had an impact and its unlikely we get some of the new 'old' guard in charge.

To the pp earlier who thought there will be a capital drain if Corbyn gets in let them go, they dont seem to be helping much right now and tbh with Brexit theyre likely to go anyway so meh byyyyeee!!

JustAnotherPoster00 · 10/12/2018 08:49

8The Beatles wrote the song Taxman when the 70s Labour govt. put the highest rate of tax to 95%

Can you point out in the last Labour manifesto where this was policy, rich people singing about having to pay more tax and thats meant to make us go 'oh well if the beatles sang about it 40 years ago then thats my mind made up' smh Hmm

malificent7 · 10/12/2018 08:51

Dont pay your taxes? Then piss off imo. Businesses should paybtheir taxes, and worjers and scrap 0 hour contracts.

bellinisurge · 10/12/2018 08:52

I give a fuck if it's Corbyn because I am half Irish (he sucked up to the IRA after Brighton) and half Jewish (he indulges antisemites and has given them free rein in the party). And I'm a woman- he has nothing to say about the dangers of self-ID.
Oh, yes and the IRA thing, he claims to have been part of the peace process and tries to get away with it because he's happy to pretend he did the work of a dead woman - Mo Mowlem. Unbelievable level of lies and bullshit on that point.
Nope, still not going to vote Labour with him in power.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 10/12/2018 08:56

Given that having Corbyn as leader knocks 12 points off Labour according to current polling, I doubt it very much.

I couldn't vote Labour again for their sheer lack of judgement in allowing Corbyn to stand and not getting rid of him after. They're not an opposition now. Corbyn's been an invisible MP for 35 years, with his parliamentary voting attendance well below average despite being just down the road and his 2015-16 response-to-constituents stats dropping to 14% from only 27% as a backbencher (most recent available figures).

Given that he's in lockstep with the Tories on welfare, keeping just about all the welfare cuts and freezes and planning to continue with the vile UC, a system specifically designed to punish us for our poverty, as explicitly laid out in the Labour 2017 manifesto there's no change there either, for all the Corbynite narrative about him caring about the poorest people in the country. That's not even mentioning his stance on Brexit.

I have no patience with the Fail accusations either. Corbyn did not spring unto us in July 2015. People did know about him before that. Nor did he have any part in the Peace Process whatsoever (source: the actual truth). Perhaps people need to get off the Skwawkbox blog and face reality.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 10/12/2018 08:56

bellinsurge I doubt youd vote Labour even if it wasnt him in charge tbh from how I read your posts or youre his ex wife Grin

JustAnotherPoster00 · 10/12/2018 08:58

I'm glad theyve decided to do this though

welfareweekly.com/labour-would-restore-legal-aid-for-benefit-appeal-cases/

JustAnotherPoster00 · 10/12/2018 08:59

Given that he's in lockstep with the Tories on welfare, keeping just about all the welfare cuts and freezes and planning to continue with the vile UC

news.sky.com/story/labour-to-ditch-universal-credit-mcdonnell-says-11520302

bellinisurge · 10/12/2018 09:10

@JustAnotherPoster00 , ooooooooooo.

Thymeout · 10/12/2018 09:12

At the end of Blair's time as PM, every single demographic was better off. The child poverty levels sank like a stone.

We live in a mixed economy and Labour is a mainstream party. The Corbyn faction was previously known as the lunatic fringe, treading a blurred line between representative parliamentary democracy and Trotskyist front groups like the SWP and AWL. Corbyn is a Bennite, to the left of even Michael Foot.

Labour hasn't a hope of forming a government unless Tories who voted for May last time change their minds and vote Corbyn. Fat chance.

He's not a leader. He's a figurehead. Look at the people around him steering the ship. Milne, McCluskey, McDonnell. 'The Labour Party is just a vehicle'. Nasty pieces of work.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 10/12/2018 09:18

Id rather those 'nasty pieces of work' looking after the vulnerable in society than those currently doing and failing at it, when you get so poor that you have to choose between food and fuel for having a disability I dont have the income/resilience to care much about those people around hijm, if im honest I dont particularly give a shit about him anymore but he has shifted the Labour narrative left which it sorely needed and I agree Blair did some good things while in government and were now seeing the result as the Tories strip away those initiatives

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