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is it really possible corbyn will get into in #10 ?

234 replies

paintinmyhairAgain · 09/12/2018 18:08

wtf ? why on earth would anyone with half a brain cell think that is a good thing ? if labour do succeed then hopefully he'd get ousted for someone else instead. the current government have left me very disillusioned but corbyn...really ??
what are your thoughts ?

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TheHobbitMum · 09/12/2018 21:41

I personally would love him to move into No10!

Kummerspeck · 09/12/2018 21:48

A poster on a previous thread suggested that "everyone should experience a hard left Labour government once in their lifetime; the experience will always guide them in the future"
My values are more in line with Labour than Tories but, having lived through the Derek Hatton-led council shambles in Liverpool in the 1980s I am very nervous of the chaos this particular lot could cause and could not bring myself to support them

superstarburst · 09/12/2018 21:49

Terrifying thought. Getting rid of our nuclear weapons would be the crowning turd on top of Brexit. Not to mention the whole economy fucked, even more than it's already going to be.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 09/12/2018 21:50

No he won’t get in thankfully

Too many know he is pro Brexit and though I am sure he will soon say we need another referendum to gain voters most can see through him

But unfortunately Corbyn and momentum shall be running the party for sometime and shall run it down to the ground

Newsername · 09/12/2018 21:52

Has this tv debate happened then? I’ve been waiting since last week for a date and nothing :(

90mammasophie · 09/12/2018 21:59

It would be an improvement on the current situation. Hopefully with a Labour government (JC or otherwise) we might be able to rebuild our public services.
He seems like a good man to me. With clear and consistent values.

bellinisurge · 09/12/2018 22:03

Jewish family. Female. Old enough to have lived through the Millitant fiasco. Irish family too. Hate IRA. Labour voter all my life.
Not really my sort of PM. Don't like fecking twats.

Andromeida59 · 09/12/2018 22:03

I'm a former Labour elected official, I've worked for the L.P. and have and have just left the L.P. over antisemitism that I witnessed locally.
I despise Corbyn and before anyone jumps on me for being a Tory etc. I'm not but he's destroying the party.

And before anyone claims that he's so much more left wing than any previous leader etc. The 2017 manifesto was the same as the 2015 one which was seen as too "right wing".

As a man who has lived in privilege all his life (mansion in Shropshire, cushy jobs in local government etc.) How can he profess to be "of the people" is beyond me.

superstarburst · 09/12/2018 22:06

Antisemitism doesn't make someone a 'good man' in my eyes.
In any case he comes across as incompetent. He's been an incompetent opposition leader. Plus he's pro Brexit.
There must be tons of voters like me feeling completely unrepresented. A new centrist remain party needs to be formed asap.

superstarburst · 09/12/2018 22:06

Sorry that was to 90mamma

birdsdestiny · 09/12/2018 22:11

The fact that most of us are life long Labour voters might undermine the 'don't believe what you read in the Daily Mail' nonsense. We know the party and we are weeping at what it has become. Nice men aren't misogynists.

AuntieStella · 09/12/2018 22:16

Yes, I think he is pro-Brexit.

I do like the idea of a leader who actually believes in things though. But am wary when people seem to extrapolate too far from what he actually says.

bellinisurge · 09/12/2018 22:18

Not from what he says, what he does.

BeachtheButler · 09/12/2018 22:20

Only if the SNP vote collapses and Labour can reclaim Scotland. Might do it if he can get Wales and a goodish swing in England, but he really needs Scotland IMO.

superstarburst · 09/12/2018 22:23

I do like the idea of a leader who actually believes in things though
Well Hitler believed in things. And Stalin... Hmm

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/12/2018 22:50

Corbyn and momentum shall be running the party for sometime and shall run it down to the ground

In some ways that could well offer a solution, if something new and better grew from the wreckage

What worries me is how long it might take and the damage Labour Momentum could inflict if elected in the meantime

AuntieStella · 09/12/2018 22:50

I don't put Corbyn quite in that league, and recognise but repudiate the reductio ad absurdam.

Perhaps a more realistic comparison would be to Bob Crow, who attracted admiration and respect from all parts of the political spectrum on his death. And that was rooted in his clear principles.

Sakura7 · 09/12/2018 22:57

This terrifies me. My family are in relatively low paid private sector jobs and we live in a private rental. We are the sort of people who will be first to go to the wall.

What makes you believe this? The impression I get is that he wants to help low paid workers and provide secure housing.

Elfontheshelfiswatchingyoutoo · 09/12/2018 23:02

We would be lost as a country.

Momentum is hard hard left. We would be in the vice like grip of hard communists. Freedom of speech would be in grave danger. The Economy would tank.. Run on the pound... We would be financially paralysed. Politically paralysed... Vulnerable to all sorts of attack...

Sakura7 · 09/12/2018 23:07

More Daily Mail shite...

Even if Momentum are full on communists (which they're not), they do not make up the entire Labour party, they're a faction within it.

jasjas1973 · 09/12/2018 23:15

Could he be any worse than this shower?
an international laughing stock, an nhs with 2 month waits for cancer treatment which they cannot meet, food banks, low wages, homelessness, few police, austerity, tax cuts for the wealthy and companies, roads falling apart, trains that fail to run on time, super expensive, rising class sizes, 100k health service vacancies and increasing!

and a failure to govern for the last 3 years as they fight among themselves over Brexit.

Yet all you hear is he would bad for the country? i mean......

nicslackey · 09/12/2018 23:15

I pray for a pm with a modicum of compassion. I would be glad to see JC in no 10. He strikes me as genuine and principled. The worst Labour government is better than the best Tory one.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/12/2018 23:19

Sakura I can't work out if you're being disingenuous or are genuinely unaware ... do you really not realise how Momentum have expanded and what their role within the NEC in particular now is?

Augusta2012 · 09/12/2018 23:25

What makes you believe this? The impression I get is that he wants to help low paid workers and provide secure housing.

He can’t help low paid workers if they don’t have jobs can he? The economy will tank under him. Private sector employees will lose their jobs and first in the firing line will be the lowest paid workers. Businesses aren’t going to stay here under a government with punitive policies. We live in a connected world where it’s easy for companies to move, and the manufacturing industry, which is harder to move, is not really significant here.

You can’t run an economy with just public sector workers in the world we live in. Someone has to generate cash.

His brand of socialism is a 1950s ‘tax the rich, tax companies’ brand. That might have made some sense in the 50s, but in today’s connected world they will just leave. Raising taxes doesn’t increase receipts. Hollande tried it in France and it was an utter failure. Macron is already courting the wealthy to go to France.

And provide secure housing, do you think millions of houses will just pop up out of thin air the day after he is elected? Secure affordable housing wouldn’t be ready in time for it to make a jot of difference to the people who will lose their jobs.

Sakura7 · 09/12/2018 23:31

Puzzled I'm not being disingenuous. They hold 9 seats out of 39 on the NEC. And if that's what the membership voted for, so be it.