To be shocked that Mn has been branded a “hotbed of transphobia”

[Badmoonsarising]

BY Vice msgazine no less!

broadly.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/a3mn9k/mumsnet-uk-mom-forum-terf-transphobia-feminism

I do find it very interesting that when called out on some transphobic behaviour on the boards, rather than acknowledge that this does take place and that you don’t condone it, you’ve instead manage to make yourselves back into the victim in a weird ‘oh woman are saying no that’s what you’re angry about’
I think there’s a word for someone who, when called out on their behaviour, manages to twist the whole thing around again into being the accusers fault

Given that many women are brought up to be constantly seeking male attention and male approval for even their most minute and trivial actions, and it may be dangerous for them to do otherwise...

Oh fuck offfff think that's the first time I've said that outright to here on a viewpoint lol
Not constantly brought up to be constantly seeking male attention at all, women are able to want to court male attention all by themselves.
I don't give a shit if that goes against the feminist viewpoint that we're all victims and perved on.

I do find it very interesting that when called out on some transphobic behaviour on the boards, rather than acknowledge that this does take place and that you don’t condone it, you’ve instead manage to make yourselves back into the victim in a weird ‘oh woman are saying no that’s what you’re angry about’

If you are against self ID, then you are as 'transphobic' as anyone.

If you are against self ID, then you are as 'transphobic' as anyone

Yeah but no but you're fixating on the extremist end of the other side there.

I agree with them. Very transphobic on here.
Racism is wrong, homophobia is wrong. So why is transphobia ok?
Protecting women and being accepting of others is possible. Some of the comments I read on the feminist board are disgusting and 100% transphobic. People go too far when defending their rights.

Just going to C+P what I said earlier as every sinngle time you are bringing it back to this ‘this is transphobic toooooo’

^The gaslighting is astonishing.
It’s like saying hundreds of bad things about Islam, that they’re all terrorists and pedophiles.. then when someone calls you islamaphobic saying ‘no no, how is saying it has mysogonistic tendencies islamaphobic’ On its own, it’s not - it’s stating a concern and no one is saying it because of that aspect, but when it’s added in with hundreds of other criticisms, groups of people talking badly of ‘them all’, creating statistics to make them look dangerous, creating a ‘them’ and ‘us’, posting on a forum everytime anyone who’s Muslim does anything. Then it becomes islamaphobic. Are you all so deep into the echo chamber that you truly don’t understand that? Questioning sex and the affects of self ID on woman is not transphobic, most of the rest of the crap you all spout is.^

Racism is wrong, homophobia is wrong. So why is transphobia ok?
Protecting women and being accepting of others is possible. Some of the comments I read on the feminist board are disgusting and 100% transphobic. People go too far when defending their rights

Yes. Although from reading these threads they genuinely don't think they are doing anything wrong. Even when extremely extreme. They can't see it as they don't think transphobia exists.

Bold fail top part was a quote

You can repeat that all you like but it’s not the same at all.

The parallels between islamaphobia don’t work, like I said when you last posted that, it would only work as an analogy if one of the definitions of islamaphobia was not believing Allah was the one true god or accepting the world as written in the Koran.
Because that’s what you need to do not to be transphobic. Actually believe that people can change sex and that a transwomen is in every way a woman.

This is pathetic.

900+ posts, the only ones saying all trans people are abusers etc are the ones pretending someone else said it. So they can claim transphobia.

No one thinks all transpeople are abusers.

98% of sexual abuse is commited by males.

So females need spaces away from males. All males. Even the nice ones.

It’s like saying hundreds of bad things about Islam, that they’re all terrorists and pedophiles.. then when someone calls you islamaphobic saying ‘no no, how is saying it has mysogonistic tendencies islamaphobic’ On its own, it’s not - it’s stating a concern and no one is saying it because of that aspect, but when it’s added in with hundreds of other criticisms, groups of people talking badly of ‘them all’, creating statistics to make them look dangerous, creating a ‘them’ and ‘us’, posting on a forum everytime anyone who’s Muslim does anything. Then it becomes islamaphobic. Are you all so deep into the echo chamber that you truly don’t understand that?

Yes to this, and I really think some can't or won't see.

No one thinks all transpeople are abusers

No, but some want them all to stay urgh the hell out of your spaces as urgh men.

Yeah that’s exactly it. Nailed it

So Verbeena you dont want single sex spaces?

Fine. Go campaign for unisex spaces.

Ive asked you this before and never recieved an answer but why do you think you have the right to tell other people what rights they should have taken away from them?

The parallels between islamaphobia don’t work, like I said when you last posted that, it would only work as an analogy if one of the definitions of islamaphobia was not believing Allah was the one true god or accepting the world as written in the Koran.
Because that’s what you need to do not to be transphobic. Actually believe that people can change sex and that a transwomen is in every way a woman.

Did you read what I wrote? Because I didn’t compare the ideology behind Islam to transgendism.

I compared saying lots of nasty things about a group of people, then claiming your not phobic because [insert one faily mainstream view] isn’t phobic.

No, but some want them all to stay urgh the hell out of your spaces as urgh men

You ok hun?

Are we changing uk law to accommodate Islamic beliefs?

Yes verbeena I’m trying to work out of it is just a case of a group of very manipulative people trying to gaslight, or if they genuinely can’t see it.

Yes verbeena I’m trying to work out of it is just a case of a group of very manipulative people trying to gaslight, or if they genuinely can’t see it.

Wow, self awareness has struck you! That's your own behaviour.

Demanding the legal right to mantian single sex spaces is manipulative and gaslighting?

U ok hun?

Well if you keep persecuting people for thought crimes, eventually you’re going to fall foul of it yourself.

Demanding the legal right to mantian single sex spaces is manipulative and gaslighting?
Since there’s no chance of any of you actually reading or listening. I hope some people who have read in order are atleast having a good laugh at the irony

Not wanting a change in the current law is extreme?

I mean, come on. Talk about hyperbole.

900+ posts, the only ones saying all trans people are abusers etc are the ones pretending someone else said it. So they can claim transphobia.

No one thinks all transpeople are abusers.

98% of sexual abuse is commited by males.

So females need spaces away from males. All males. Even the nice ones.

Good post Hyppolyta

EarlyWalker no one has said transwomen should not be allowed third spaces.

We have said they, as males, should not be allowed our female spaces.

There is only one group saying the other should not have the spaces they need, and its the one youre fighting for.

Why is that?