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AIBU?

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Domestic Violence: Who is BU?

160 replies

justthebeginning · 02/12/2018 20:23

Six weeks ago on Saturday morning I woke up at 4am to my husband pushing a pillow into my face, stopping me from breathing, and screaming at me "This is just a taste of what you've got to come... You'll have to spend the rest of your life watching your back..." etc. I had our 8 month old baby cuddled up next to me at the time.
He eventually stopped, threw the pillow down, shouted some more abuse and threats, then left the room. After I dithered and rang my mum and dithered some more, I eventually called the police, who arrested him and held him in custody for the remainder of the day while I crammed as many of my belongings as I could into my car and then drove the 350 miles to my parents house, where I have been living in fear ever since, as I know he knows where I am.
The night this happened, I had just told my husband that I would like to separate, due to his episodes of violent rage happening with increasing frequency (although not usually directed at me). It made me feel vulnerable and I didn't want to raise my son around that. Once he threw our barbecue across the road. Another time he said he was going to find our landlord and stamp on his head. I needed to get out. And when I tried, that is what happened.
For the last 6 weeks, I haven't heard anything at all from him. He his still on police bail while the CPS make a decision as to whether or not to bring charges, and his bail conditions stipulate that he can't contact me directly or indirectly in the interim. His job is very important to him and is very much in the public eye (absolutely not a celebrity or anything of the sort, but a totally unique role and he is frequently asked to do interviews for the news etc.), and so a breach of bail leading to a criminal conviction would be terrible news for him. But as soon as those bail conditions are lifted - 350 miles is nothing to an angry bastard who has been subject to criminal proceedings and hasn't seen his only son in nearly 2 months, so I'm frightened. I've started locking myself in the house, I have had a lock put on my bedroom door, and I carry a secret camera on my wrist at all times even when I'm in the house, just in case he turns up. Being assaulted in your home with no witnesses and thus slim-to-nil chances of prosecution makes you really desperate to PROVE this shit.
Anyway, we had only been married a year, whirlwind romance etc. He really got me. It turns out this whole time we have been separated he has been messaging my mum, asking for photos of the baby and wanting to arrange contact with him. She obligied and sent him photos, without telling me, as she understandably thought I was too fragile at the time. Now that I know, I have asked her to please stop replying to his messages, as (a) there are some very serious legal proceedings about to take place, and (b) I'm desperately trying to protect myself and my son from this piece of shit.
Now my mum says she doesn't think my STBXH deserves to be separated from his son, and that my son deserves to know his dad. My baby is 9 months old, and the happiest baby you could hope to meet. I would never stop him from knowing his dad later when he wants to, and when he is old enough to know if something is wrong and to communicate it to me, but right now, when this is still very raw and my baby is still very little, my priorities are protecting us both and keeping us both as far away from this monster as possible. Mum says that people make mistakes...
Who is BU?

OP posts:
Bambamber · 02/12/2018 20:27

I can't comprehend your mum's thinking. He tried to kill you, that is not a mistake

Johnnyfinland · 02/12/2018 20:27

WTF! Your mum is being so U I’m actually shocked. That’s her attitude towards a man who violently assaulted her daughter and basically threatened to kill you? No, she’s out of her mind. Can you move somewhere else where neither she nor he knows where you are?

Laiste · 02/12/2018 20:27

Your mother is BU. Good God! She knew what he did to you and yet messaged him behind your back!?

Is there someone else you can stay with? Can you move out (and don't tell your mother the address).

Flowers for you and your little DS. You sound as if you are being very brave and strong.

user1473878824 · 02/12/2018 20:29

Your mother is INSANE. I’m so sorry this is happening to you. Is your father around? What does he say? Can you get him to talk to her about how absolutely not okay this is?

BettaSplenden · 02/12/2018 20:29

Your mum is a dick. He could have killed you. What's to stop him hurting your child who is completely defenceless? No way would that bastard be getting near my child. I'd go to court if I had to

eightoclock · 02/12/2018 20:29

Your mum is being U. She should not have gone behind your back. This would make me really angry/scared. Does she know the extent of what has gone on? If so there is something wrong with her! If she disagreed with your stance she should have discussed it with you. There are good reasons why you feel the way you do. He sounds like a safety hazard to both of you. But can you get some social services input/outside advice on this? It's too serious an issue to be kept to your mum and you.

LilMy33 · 02/12/2018 20:29

You’re mum is being so fucking unreasonable I actually feel sick. I am so sorry for what you’re going through. Have you been in contact with womens aid? If not please do they will have lots of advice about protecting yourself and legal protection for you and your son. You need to stay away from your mum too.

tenbob · 02/12/2018 20:29

Your mum is being so unreasonable that I would doubt your safety living with her in case she decides to not tell you that she is setting up contact between him and your son or something else hugely stupid

She is hugely minimising what he has done and is fetishising him as a father

Do you have anywhere else you can stay?

bastardkitty · 02/12/2018 20:30

Please please get a refuge place. Your Mum has let you down terribly and put you and your son in danger. I am no contact with mine due to a similar but much less serious betrayal.

Wolfiefan · 02/12/2018 20:32

People make mistakes. Yes. I bought brioche rolls with what I thought were raisins in. It was chocolate.
Being repeatedly violent is not a mistake. It’s a choice. Reasonable adults mange their emotions. Yes they may get cross but they manage to deal with those emotions without scaring anyone.
He’s a vicious bully. Your mum is totally U. If she can’t understand that then I couldn’t be around her.
I’m so sorry OP. I wish you well.

whaletastic · 02/12/2018 20:32

You need to leave your mums and go somewhere else. She's put you and your son in danger. Don't tell her where you're going. You need to do the best for your son Thanks

Tenaladytryouts · 02/12/2018 20:32

Ask your mum if she would like to plan your funeral? Or plan her visits to a&e where you are being treated for broken ribs etc. He tried to kill you. Your mum unfortunately doesn’t sound like she’s in your corner and has been sucked into his lies. Can you contact the DA or police and ask them for advice?

Feefeetrixabelle · 02/12/2018 20:33

Get to a refuge. Your mum can not be trusted to protect you or your son.

Hassled · 02/12/2018 20:33

Your mum is nuts, but I think you know that. You've done bloody well getting away - you should be incredibly proud of yourself. She should be supporting you, not undermining you.

So if you don't feel safe there, and your mum is nuts, where else can you go? How are you for money?

bastardkitty · 02/12/2018 20:34

Please don't give her a second chance to fuck you over. You absolutely know just how dangerous this bastard is. Tell her nothing. Just disappear. I know how drastic that sounds.

HumpHumpWhale · 02/12/2018 20:34

Your mum is being unreasonable, which you know. You may need to go elsewhere.

Aquamarine1029 · 02/12/2018 20:34

Your mother is as dangerous as your husband is. It is shocking how terribly she has betrayed you.

ArcheryAnnie · 02/12/2018 20:36

Your mum is so beyond being BU that I don't know how to express it adequately.

Your STBEx doesn't give a shit about your child. Your STBEx came close to depriving your child of a mother. You fear your STBEx could still do this.

You've been amazing, OP, in getting you and your child away from this man. Your mum is putting you all in danger.

Flowers
hidinginthenightgarden · 02/12/2018 20:38

I think you need to leave your mums house. I don't think she can keep you safe.

CallMeRachel · 02/12/2018 20:39

Bloody hell your mother has absolutely no right to get involved with him!

She is potentially putting you all at risk.

Get hold of her phone and block him on there so she can't receive any more messages from him.

Contact woman's aid who are the only people who are well knowledgeable about this situation. Sadly, if you go there it sounds like you will have to go without telling her where you are as you won't be able to trust her.

I know you know this but you've been so brave and really have done the right thing for you and your son.

sackrifice · 02/12/2018 20:40

Agreed, you need to get the fuck out of there and somewhere that he or she doesn't know. Stay safe. Flowers

Feefeetrixabelle · 02/12/2018 20:41

If she can’t be trusted to not send photos and messages behind your back she can’t be trusted to not organise contact. And if the only way your ex has of hurting you is your baby- he’ll do it because that’s what a monster does.

gottastopeatingchocolate · 02/12/2018 20:41

There is no question about who is BU.

The bigger question is - are you safe?

Are the police local to where you are now aware of your situation? If not, call them and make them aware. They will support you.

Are the bail conditions likely to get dropped any time soon? If so, get a non molestation order which prevents your ex from contacting you.

Would you feel safer in a refuge? If so, call Women's Aid or your local DA charity.

Please get all the support you can, OP.

I wish you well.

JagerPlease · 02/12/2018 20:41

Quite frankly terrifying that she is thinking like that. It is by no means unheard of for an ex to harm a child to get back at someone for leaving them, you are absolutely correct to keep him away from your son

Queenie8 · 02/12/2018 20:41

Contact the police dealing with your case - your ex has breached bail conditions, firstly.
Second, ask for them to refer you on to the correct agencies to get you to safety, and to protect you. Now, today, this evening.

Your mum is not to be trusted.

Good luck, and well done for breaking free.