can't afford to prep for brexit

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wrong board but the preppers will probably flame me, as you will might for mentioning it on here .
i was wondering if things goes toes up and there are food shortages, what happens with people who can't afford to -hoard- store up goods i.e the elderly and people on very tight budgets already living hand to mouth relying on food banks ?
any thoughts ?

Are we really one of the richest countries in the world??? I thought we were trillions in debt, which is the reason why we have austerity and why there isn't a magic money tree.

I know a person in real life who has a very, good well-paid job, but they are terrible with money and badly in debt. In my view that person is not rich. It only takes one small disaster (maybe Brexit) for that person's life to spiral out of control.

People who are too poor to prep are really going to suffer. People with expensive lifestyles and big mortgages are also going to suffer. Rich people with lots of assets might not suffer too much, but they will lose a lot of money. Brexit will be bad news for nearly everyone.

Jesus take the wheel! I am with most it is not doomsday just leaving the oh so ever controlling EU.

I doubt our grandparents and great grandparents who fought in two world wars to protect us from being run and dictated too by Germany would appreciate the way people are carrying on today, grow some balls for god sake.

I grew up in South Africa during the 70's and 80's when we had sanctions imposed on us by the EU. Best days of our lives and we pisswd the EU off by doing so much better than they assumed we would.

home i never said you did , so it's cool, doesn't matter who reported it, i thought it amusing that someone did, there are some delicate little souls on here

Gove supposedly didn't resign because he found out from the Food and Drink Federation pesky experts that there as no way of avoiding Mars Bars running out within 2 weeks if there is a No deal Brexit, due to 2 of its 21 ingredients being imported and having a shelf life of only a couple of days, so therefore can't be stockpiled

www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/mars-bars-brexit-no-deal-gove

Now, I can know that there may be a benefit in this in helping to reduce theUK's obesity crisis

Live in a snow bowl and snowed in last winter for a week then shelves took another week to get back to normal. Always have a month of food in. Never know when pockets will be empty for example.

You can’t tell posters to fuck off OP. It’s never been allowed.

Lol what are you prepping for?

“Op: plenty of food is produced in this country so please don’t worry.
I’ve been buying mostly British for years to support our farmers & fruit growers.”

What do you think will happen if everyone does the same?

@PeevedOfPortishead. I agree. I live in the middle of nowhere for five years. Never had a problem till last year when it snowed. The local shop ( which is now shut) had nothing.

I will not let that happen again. I buy food we eat and rotate. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that. I will increase it if I have to as well.

The thing is@Coffeethrowtrampbitch a number of those using food banks are just people who manage their allocated money in a piss poor fashion, spend it on overpriced junk food and frozen shitty meals and have no idea how to cook or budget or create a weekly menu

I’m not far off using a food bank, but the above comment could not be further from the truth. I can’t afford a takeaway or junk food, I cook from scratch every day. I am one of the people who could potentially be affected, and I can’t afford to stock off either!

through go forth and multiply is that okay ? how stupid is it, as poeple have pointed out so many times in the past it's an adult forum, we are all adults, supposedly, and this is aibu

Stock up!

It’s not really anything to do with being rich or poor. It’s about a lot of the food we eat not being able to get through customs while it’s still in a fit state to eat. Due to our supermarkets relying on just-in-time delivery they don’t have massive warehouses in which to stockpile food should there be a problem. I’m going to stockpile at least a few weeks of some of the basics. If it doesn’t get used then it’ll get used eventually. I’m not panicking, but equally, I don’t think it’s overreacting to keep extra supplies of the things I know I’ll need.

A million families have already had to use food banks and nothing is being done. The UN has just condemned our levels of poverty in the fifth richest country in the world, and the government's urgent response has been to deny it completely.

We need this as a sticky at the top of every talk topic. It is absolutely astounding how completely ignorant and complacent some people are.

I'm prepping for the rise in food prices. That is most definitely going to happen and has already happened. Food prices are not coming down. My wage is not going up. I've been told it's never going up by my employer. I don't earn much. I'm buying essentials at today's prices, not tomorrow's. I'd have to be an idiot not to.

I think (and I am serious) that nations like USA will drop food on us if it actually comes to people starving.

Such optimism! Here comes the cavalry headed by Trump, that shining turd in armour. They say you can't polish one.

But back to nations like USA will drop food on us, yeah, just like they've been doing for their starving friends, Venezuela? Let's talk about the U.S.'s response to Puerto Rican aid in the wake of hurricane Maria. And may I remind you that Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory? So if a U.S. territory can't even get proper aid in the wake of a natural disaster, what makes you assume the UK will be 'saved' in the wake of our own engineered economic disaster?
Hopefully we won't have to even ponder this.

I think food prices are likely to go up. For some people already with a tight budget that will be a big problem, those people probably don't have spare money to stockpile much in advance though.

I think it's likely there will be delays with imports at least initially, at the least food will take more time to get through customs adjusting to new systems/ paperwork.

If we have a No Deal (utterly irresponsible) there will be significant delays. As supermarkets import food Just In Time and don't have much stored in the UK, delays will lead to shortages on the shelves, and supermarkets may be reluctant to import fresh food which may not get to the shelves in time. Combine this with people getting worried and buying more. I remember in the snow last year our central London supermarket ran out of several fresh items.

I think we will definitely still get food, but it is likely to be more expensive and with some shortages. If No Deal likely to be noticeable shortages and even more expensive. How much of a problem this is for you individually depends on your budget, your diet, where you live.

Firstly. We’re are now 7th richest country
Our economy is at least as bad as Greece - maybe worse

We can’t cope with a few days of snow let alone a completely self inflicted disaster - the government are planning to stockpile food and medicine already because there will be chaos for a few weeks
No country is coming to our aid- why should they ? We chose this path

There was a near riot over a teddy bear shop recently- imagine the reaction if there’s no bread or milk or loo roll for a few weeks
And as for medicines ( insulin for example). It’s terrifying that there’s a real chance people could die

If the current deal goes through?

• minimal short-term impact, but increasing problems with UK grown fruit and veg due to shortages of field labour. You may have noticed that the quality of quite a bit of UK veg has declined in the supermarkets over the last couple of years - it's just not getting picked in a timely fashion.
• ongoing political rumblings because it's not what anyone wanted. Hardly surprising because the referendum never actually resolved what people wanted (it wasn't designed to, and the question asked couldn't answer that).

No deal?

• at least three months of random shortages and chaos, unless mitigated by the current government proposal of effectively lifting all customs checks on the ferries.
• long-term things start to get weird. It's not just customs areas and border checks, it's international haulage licenses for HGVs - of which the UK does not, and never has had, a large enough allocation for self-sufficiency (because within the EU we didn't need it).

Prudence dictates that going into March 2019 with a full larder is a good idea. Personally, I will also have full bunker for the fire and a couple of jerry cans of fuel for the generator and car. Nothing that I wouldn't use up anyway, but bringing purchases forward and not letting stores run down.

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If we still had the generations that fought the wars running things then we probably wouldn't be in this mess. Instead we're lumbered with their baby boomer kids with something to prove.

I think people may have to think about going back to basics a bit more - buying in flour and yeast and making your own bread, baking cakes and biscuits (so storing up flour, sugar and butter). Eggs will still be available from local farms. Meat and ready meals can be frozen for a period of time . Lots of our fruit and veg comes from countries outside the EC and always has done. Don't WORRY so much - things have a habit of working out in the end.

Are we really one of the richest countries in the world???

@namechanger

OMG do you seriously not know that the UK is one of the richest countries in the world. OMFG I cannot believe anyone could be so unaware.

Why? The world still turn. Anyone remember new year eve 1999! Everyone was worried their car would start. Stupidish post i ever saw was a friend say on facebook in going to miss my polish friend. My mum was at school with different nationalities including some polish in the 50s. Nothing stopping friendship. There might be a few weeks when everything needs sorting eg visas etc but it all be ok.

Best days of our lives and we pisswd the EU off by doing so much better than they assumed we would.

Actually, it was Apartheid pissing the EU off not your great economy.
And mostly those sanctions were limited and not imposed because Germany, the UK, and the US felt that sanctions did not pave the road towards much-needed change in SA.

Rationing.
Dig for Victory, grow your own cabbages.
Traditional British Cooking.
The possibilities are endless.

Most of us are too fat, anyway.

-So shoot me for still having a sense of humour.