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can't afford to prep for brexit

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paintinmyhairAgain · 18/11/2018 12:34

wrong board but the preppers will probably flame me, as you will might for mentioning it on here Grin.
i was wondering if things goes toes up and there are food shortages, what happens with people who can't afford to -hoard- store up goods i.e the elderly and people on very tight budgets already living hand to mouth relying on food banks ?
any thoughts ?

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RebelWitchFace · 18/11/2018 14:51

OMG do you seriously not know that the UK is one of the richest countries in the world. OMFG I cannot believe anyone could be so unaware.

What are you? 12?

SinisterBumFacedCat · 18/11/2018 14:52

Uk is one of the richest countries in the world with 1 fifth of the population living in poverty and 1.5 million destitute according to the UN. Are those of you suggesting the OP get a grip for having the audacity to ask a question on here happy to hand them out to 14 million people when the perfect storm of Brexit and Universal Credit hits next year? Good luck with that.

MyBrexitIsIll · 18/11/2018 14:57

Rationing.
Dig for Victory, grow your own cabbages.
Traditional British Cooking.
The possibilities are endless.

But there was a WAR going on then, a world war.
Ho can we arrive in a situation where companies and the government are talking about stockpiling food and medicines in times of peace ?!? 😖😖😖

SinisterBumFacedCat · 18/11/2018 14:59

I doubt our grandparents and great grandparents who fought in two world wars to protect us from being run and dictated too by Germany would appreciate the way people are carrying on today, grow some balls for god sake.

They also fought against a far right facist dictatorship. Now we seem to aspire to them....

DogInATent · 18/11/2018 14:59

Rationing.
Dig for Victory, grow your own cabbages.
Traditional British Cooking.
The possibilities are endless.

The Tripe Marketing Board are already gearing up in anticipation.

wondering1101 · 18/11/2018 15:01

this is the 21st century, of course there will not be food shortages

Yet the number of homeless people as well as working people reliant on food banks continues to grow.

wondering1101 · 18/11/2018 15:01

And that’s before Brexit.

Gwenhwyfar · 18/11/2018 15:02

"Most of us are too fat, anyway.

-So shoot me for still having a sense of humour."

That did make me laugh, but we'll only get fatter if we're eating more processed food and even less fruit and veg.

dontalltalkatonce · 18/11/2018 15:06

Why prep and hoard when you can steal from those who do?

prettybird · 18/11/2018 15:09

Bingo: someone has come along to claim that the Millennium Bug was scaremongering Grin

(I have posted previously how the hard work done by telecoms companies - let alone other industries - helped ensure that phones, banks, tv, radio, internet, etc continued to work post midnight at Y2K)

And on the subject of South Africa: my family left SA in the early 60s because of apartheid (despite my parents having a comfortable life there - but they couldn't thole the values of the white community). Having visited in the 70s (without my parents), my granny and aunt had to plan their travel carefully at weekends as because of the sanctions you couldn't get petrol at weekends. So much for the sanctions helping the country to thrive Confused

And it is telling (of the values of the white community) that the most effective sanctions were the Sporting ones Hmm. That really hurt the white community where it mattered (their pride) Confused - because they were sufficiently privileged to be cushioned from the financial impact. Sad

Disquieted1 · 18/11/2018 15:17

If things get tough, just get your gamekeeper to bag another brace of pheasant. I really don't see what the problem is.

prettybird · 18/11/2018 15:20

Is that you JRM ? Grin

...or JRM's nanny? Wink

TheNumberfaker · 18/11/2018 15:33

There will be a transition period anyway

If there is no-deal, then there will be no transition.

Quietrebel · 18/11/2018 15:34

the UK is one of the richest countries in the world

As has been pointed out by numerous other posters, there is nonetheless a lot of poverty in this country. Inequality is growing and should there be a no deal (or 'WTO' brexit as brexiteers like to call it, same difference) the shock would be too great for many struggling families. Price rises, shortages etc would just push them over the edge.
It would be a kind of social cleansing- just too horrible to contemplate.

borntobequiet · 18/11/2018 15:37

Road hauliers - who bring most of these goods in - and no, we do not produce all we consume, nor could we - have a lot to do to prepare in the case of a no deal Brexit:
www.rha.uk.net/policy-campaigning/brexit-and-the-uk-haulage-industry
Pleased to see our old friend the Millennium Bug rearing its (inappropriate comparison) head again!

user1471426142 · 18/11/2018 15:38

I think for some people there will be very real hardship. As long as me and my husband don’t lose our jobs, we have enough flex to be fine with higher food prices, freezer space that would allow us to stockpile and have sufficient land that we could grow some of our own food, get chickens etc. It won’t be people on our income that suffer(albeit we might have less choice). Most people who are already struggling would not have that option.

I think it is only prudent to stockpile basics just in case. I have a baby due in March next year and struggled to breastfeed with my first child. I will not be leaving it to chance that sufficient formula will be available to buy given there have already been shortages.

Graphista · 18/11/2018 15:40

"I'm thinking people who laugh at how everyone panics at a bit of snow, and look how it didn't affect anything, don't live rurally." Definitely and don't give a shit about those that do! The one good thing that may come out of any shortages will be that these people MAY have more understanding and sympathy for those of us that experience difficulties almost annually.

PrettyBird - I'm "down the road" from you on the west coast most if not all our supplies come via glasgow, we weren't back to "normal" here for I think 5 weeks!

All those talking about buying local - the reason I and others like me DON'T buy local is because we can't afford to! And if we can't afford it now it's highly unlikely we'll be able to when prices increase due to increased demand!

Plus British farmers etc aren't anywhere near able to provide enough for the whole country - they've been trying to tell the govt this for months!

"I'm slowly stocking up each week. Staples but also things that are imported and could get expensive. Coffee, sugar, wine, tuna etc" almost everything is imported or contains imported ingredients. Seriously read more on the likely products affected.

Ngaio2 - in recent months govt has STARTED to clear spaces - old govt buildings, derelict closed armed forces based, unused tube stations, but they've been told by the experts there's a strong element of too little too late!

Industry insiders were telling them they needed to do this as soon as the result came in and again when art 50 was triggered and they were ignored largely.

"Pasta, tins etc probably won't be badly affected because companies can stock pike those in advance, it's the fresh stuff that will be a problem." The major supermarkets have said they can't stockpile much as they haven't the buying power or the storage. Just like us if they haven't the wherewithal to buy up they can't, and sellers are going to be nervous they won't get paid.

"OP - I will make sure I have enough in to tide me over for a week or so" based on the experience earlier in year with weather I reckon a month to 6 weeks is more realistic.

I have OCD so that's why this is front of my mind but I'm also trying to slowly build a stock of cleaning materials.

Beaverhausen - difference is SA had then rest of continent of Africa to trade with who generally produce cheap goods and they were your near neighbours so no high transport costs.

REALLY don't think trump will come to our rescue! Certainly not without charging black market prices (and thus following in his fathers footsteps!) Canada and Australia maybe.

Why? The world still turn. Anyone remember new year eve 1999! on EVERY brexit thread - that didn't happen by fucking fairies and unicorns either - there were IT and infrastructure experts working on that for YEARS

gendercritter · 18/11/2018 15:46

People talking about rationing in WW2, do you realise how much larger the population is now? There are so many more people to feed. We can't support our own population on the food just grown here even if we all live off cabbages and local eggs

BarbarianMum · 18/11/2018 15:48

I dont think there will be no food but I do think there may be temporary shortages of some rhings and I think food prices will go up markedly. So not a good time to be short of money. But it's a long way between poorly fed and starving.

Housingcraze · 18/11/2018 15:50

I do this anyway when food items I like are on offer! So whatever happens happens

dontalltalkatonce · 18/11/2018 15:52

Oh, and the rations, they weren't enough to sustain a healthy person for the most part. There was malnutrition and rickets. And there was also a lot of theft and corruption. But hey, it was good because people were thin Hmm. Honestly, study some decent history, folks, crime went through the roof during the Blitz. Huge crime families like the Hills and others were very busy. When people don't have enough to eat, they don't hesitate as to how to get hold of more.

RebelWitchFace · 18/11/2018 16:01

I doubt a lot of people using that argument know what the reality of rationing was.
I suppose just like they are blind to the fact that people struggling with poverty now could possibly struggle even more after Brexit. People that are already vulnerable and in precarious situations financially,mentally and health wise.

BigChocFrenzy · 18/11/2018 16:01

UK running out of food warehouse space as no-deal Brexit fears rise

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/18/uk-running-out-of-food-warehouse-space-as-no-deal-brexit-fears-rise

Britain is running out of food warehousing space as retailers and manufacturers rush to stockpile amid growing fears of a no-deal Brexit
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Frozen and chilled food warehouses, storing everything from garden peas to half-cooked supermarket bread and cold-store potatoes, are fully booked for the next six months, with customers being turned away
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Normally temperature-controlled warehouses are at their quietest in the months between Christmas and Easter
but the fear of no-deal Brexit means they are now fully reserved in advance from January to April and beyond,
explains the Food Storage and Distribution Federation (FSDF), which represents 350 warehouse owners and 75% of all commercially available frozen and chilled food warehouses in the country.

“It’s a problem, because food is manufactured or stored on a just-in-time basis, and the system isn’t built for stockpiling.
“But because of Brexit, every business that wants to guarantee its supply into UK shelves is looking for additional warehouse space right now,” said Shane Brennan, the chief executive of the FSDF.

Dontgiveamonkeys1350 · 18/11/2018 16:03

According to the daily mail..... we will run out of mars bars in two weeks.

Oh the horror.

Poloshot · 18/11/2018 16:04

😂😂😂