can't afford to prep for brexit

[paintinmyhairAgain]

wrong board but the preppers will probably flame me, as you will might for mentioning it on here .
i was wondering if things goes toes up and there are food shortages, what happens with people who can't afford to -hoard- store up goods i.e the elderly and people on very tight budgets already living hand to mouth relying on food banks ?
any thoughts ?

i do have a niggling little worry about this in the back of my head because in all honesty I struggle with keeping on top of my finances as it is at the moment.

My to do list in January is to sort out the spare freezer in the shed and get DP to clear a shelf so I can buy the odd thing on our weekly shop. Nothing outlandish, but DS is gluten intolerant and his 'staples' like bread, pasta etc are already stupidly expensive. I might try and grab an extra few chicken breasts etc from the butchers each time I go as well and then put them in the outside freezer, so I build up a stock.

Alfie, I’m not really mocking anyone, just pointing out that any historic global dominance or significance is just that, historic. We have become intrinsically linked with the EU, with the vast majority of our imports and exports going through that link. To sever that will obviously impact on our nation.

We would now be behind (in no order) the US, China, Russia, India, Canada, the EU, Japan, Australia and many other nations. We don’t create that much on our own, and very little that EU wouldn’t be able to compete with directly. For example, why would India seek a trade agreement with us if the EU offered them similar exports to us but a vastly larger import market? It’s simple economics.

Thank you for the link, tea. This seems to be more about preparation / awareness at the business level. Is there any advice on individual ‘prepping’ ( for want of a better word)?

Or would that be panic Mo gearing?

Apologies if it’s there in one of the links.

I imagine that food is going to become expensive and that supermarket shelves will get emptied of produce. Alternatively central Government will have to introduce rationing to ensure that people are adequately fed - it'll be a situation similar to WW2, with the difference being that as people are now used to a very much more varied diet, they will find the restrictions hard to tolerate. Also as we're not at war (WW2 was widely supported - it's an emergency of our own making, as a result of a flawed and corrupt political process. I can easily imagine public disaffection, rioting, the imposition of martial law etc etc.

I'm not a prepper BUT anyone local to me will remember crypto in the water and we couldn't drink it...
the shelves of water were empty, I'm immunosuppressed so had to be really careful and you don't realise how much water you use cooking/teeth cleaning etc etc. So I'm going to try and have some bottled water in because of that

Alfie190
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Lets come back in March. There wont be a starvation issue in the UK, as much as you are hoping there will be.

Why would I be hoping for that? I live in Ireland and a no deal Brexit will be a disaster for us. Most of our imports come via the land bridge so we'll be just as affected when that's no longer possible. Brexit-busters (massive ships) have been launched or are in the process of being built, but they won't come on stream fast enough. Add a return to the border between north and south, and we'll all feel the impact.

I think that is very unlikely indeed but if people want to prepare they certainly can.

I might get flamed here, but prepare as you would for anything else. Over the past five years I've never let my cupboards go bare, i always have a selection of tinned foods in. Those of which are generally things like tinned tuna, tinned tomatoes, tinned veg, tinned potatoes, tinned stewed steak, other tinned veg, beans. Freezer with cheap bags of frozen fish and meat. Bags of pasta and rice, porridge oats. All cheap food that would see us through should we not have any money whether that's down to work issues or not being able to access our money. It doesn't have to cost a lot, one item or two a week will not break the bank but means there's access to food in a situation

Link. It was over two weeks with no drinking water
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/aug/21/lancashire-boil-water-alert-anger-residents-united-utilities-cryptosporidium

I'm thinking people who laugh at how everyone panics at a bit of snow, and look how it didn't affect anything, don't live rurally. We do. Snowed in for 2 days, but it took over a week for many foods to appear back on the shelves. It wasn't panic buying. It just couldn't get to us. We had bread, interestingly, as the supermarkets were baking their own. But tins and packets etc took a long time to get back to normal. I also think it comes of being in a area that isn't considered a priority for getting things sorted. I'm prepping. Not much, an extra tin or two each week, based on the fact that if 2 days snow stopped food getting to us for so long, we would be facing a similar time delay while they sorted out customs issues etc, and if it doesn't happen, I won't need to visit the shops for a few extra days!

“Food shortages are great because they’ll solve the obesity crisis” is pure Galaxy Brain stuff.

now i know the worlds gone crazy i had a comment deleted because i told someone to f off is this net mums by any chance ?

Ariadne They're aimed at businesses because businesses were up in arms about the lack of information. So far, the 'people' have mainly just accepted that it will be sorted by those in power. Sheet head in the sand.

There are loads of articles online from mainstream media about what will happen to food supplies and what to prepare. Even ones in the far right rags.

I live in the centre of Glasgow - we still struggled during the Beast from the East as even in urban areas, the delivery trucks weren't able to get around with milk and bread. We had major motorways shut because of the snow.

I have no idea what will happen. I hope the people who voted for it are worst affected but I know it won’t work that way!

I don't know anyone who is worried about Brexit or stockpiling anything. The attitudes round here seem to be fairly sensible about it. Plus there is the transition period, so nothing much is going to happen overnight. We live in a rural area, so maybe more self sufficient than others, I don't know. We are used to having cupboards full of food anyway when the supermarket is a 40 mile round trip.

Panicking because there is a food minister, that doesn't mean that there will be food shortages, it means that they have employed somebody to oversee imports etc to try and maintain continuous supply.

Perhaps this will encourage more people to buy local produce and this will help the small retailers and farmers etc to keep going.?

paint it wasn’t me who reported it btw, I think you got the wrong end of the stick with my earlier post. I also don’t agree with the deletion of unhinged and rude posts. Interrupts the flow of the discussion.

I’m not prepping either. Not because of money but I don’t have space.

I'm slowly stocking up each week. Staples but also things that are imported and could get expensive. Coffee, sugar, wine, tuna etc

I have two dc under 3. I want to make sure they can have food and water with no interruptions.

I imagine any shortages will be resolved within a couple of weeks but I believe prices of certain things will skyrocket.

A million families have already had to use food banks and nothing is being done. The UN has just condemned our levels of poverty in the fifth richest country in the world, and the government's urgent response has been to deny it completely.

This. Completely.

Of course there will be disruption and empty shelves, it's just unknown at this stage how much disruption there will be. Prices will almost certainly rise, so prepping a bit now will at least save you money for a while later if nothing else. I can't afford to prep much but am going to start getting the odd extra things in my weekly shop when I can. I am already living in poverty though so it's hard.

I think after Brexit shelves will regularly be empty of certain products and we'll get used to this, as well as the crazy prices on stuff. Has anyone noticed in Tesco they have very recently started a thing where if something is out of stock, they put a small white card with the expected re-stock date? I think they have started this now so we are used to it and to prevent panic later when LOTS of things aren't in stock.

I don't know anyone who is worried about Brexit or stockpiling anything. The attitudes round here seem to be fairly sensible about it.

One man's sensible is another man's unprepared.

Heard a programme on the radio about possibility of supermarkets stockpiling . Apparently it’s just not feasible for the country to stockpile enough food and drugs because there are not enough warehouses — would take an incredible number of warehouses larger than any we have to do this.
I am actually anxious about the continued supply of my prescribed medications needed to keep me alive and to give me quality of life.
I can see all sorts of random foodstuffs becoming impossible to obtain.
So few other products are produced in this country now.
Factories are reliant on imported supplies and revenue from exported supplies.
Rationing of fuel will likely be an early reaction by the Govt.
Once things get really tough professionals supplying essential services will start to leave — it’s happened in other countries, what’s different about the U.K.?

There won't be no food, but some foods will be affected. It's the end of March and it will take time for new customs arrangements to settle in, so the likelihood is not as much fresh fruit and veg coming in (at that time of year we import a lot).

Pasta, tins etc probably won't be badly affected because companies can stock pike those in advance, it's the fresh stuff that will be a problem.

My prepping won't happen yet, the week before I'll make sure both cars have full tanks, I'll buy a lot of fresh foods and stock the freezer with frozen veg.

Poorer people or those who don't really believe that dramatically changing our customs arrangements with little time to train staff before hand will have a short term effect on imports, will just have to cope with tinned /long life goods that tescos/sainsburys/asda etc are planning to stockpile.

There will be some food. There will be enough food, it might just not be what you'd normally buy, or very fresh.

I imagine that most turkeys are sensibly getting on with their own lives and are not in the least worried about Xmas.