can't afford to prep for brexit

[paintinmyhairAgain]

wrong board but the preppers will probably flame me, as you will might for mentioning it on here .
i was wondering if things goes toes up and there are food shortages, what happens with people who can't afford to -hoard- store up goods i.e the elderly and people on very tight budgets already living hand to mouth relying on food banks ?
any thoughts ?

Those of you who are dismissing food shortages, have you actually read the government's own documentation on what will happen to food supplies in the event of no deal?

Ignorance and shutting down facts is one of the major reasons we're in this mess.

The thing is @Coffeethrowtrampbitch a number of those using food banks are just people who manage their allocated money in a piss poor fashion, spend it on overpriced junk food and frozen shitty meals and have no idea how to cook or budget or create a weekly menu. You can feed a family properly on a very small weekly budget! Food banks should be used for emergencies. Not your weekly shop. My arsehole half sister uses one weekly 'because she can'. Even though they have more disposable income than anyone else I know (several children, three 'diagnosed' with ASD and several other medical conditions she's blagged the GP they have - they don't and she's in the process of being investigated). It needs to be tackled from both sides. Education on how to actually run a home and a kitchen as well as tackling the UC and TC problems.

I live in the middle of nowhere. So I have a good over stock of food at all times anyway.

If there is a no brexit deal I may add to it at but. But I will defiantly add more of mine just incase. I’m wheat free , dairy free and have ibs. I have a very limited amount of food I can eat and if I run out it would cause me a few problems. So I will be prepared for that.

I wouldn’t worry too much until the no deal comes through. At that point I would maybe stock up on stuff that you would normally eat anyway if it makes u feel better.

I have enough tins, packets etc in the cupboards for at least 7 days. And bottled water in the garage. Nothing to do with Brexit. Maybe I've watched too many zombie flicks.

It doesn't matter how rich we are if imports come to a halt.

People stockpiling and prepping will cause the problem! Importers, distributors and supermarkets etc forecast, plan and stock based on projected sales and seasonal expectation etc. If everyone goes shopping today and buys crates of beans they will run out ..until such time they can be replenished through distribution and manufacture. Companies will still be making stuff and they will still be wanting to sell it. We will still need to buy it and the cycle will continue. Prices may rise slightly I wouldn't rule that out but supply will be there if we all just carry on as normal.

Only stock up on stuff you would eat anyway. Then you wouldn’t have wasted any money as you can eat it after anyway.
I think u should do what makes sense to you and ur family. And what makes you happy. And ignore what everyone else says

I think (and I am serious) that nations like USA will drop food on us if it actually comes to people starving. I don’t have the time or space to prep and even if I did, all I can think of getting is 100 cans of beans and loads of bottled water.

Think you have the wrong end of the stick with homes comments OP.

I’m doing the normal amount of prepping for any eventuality.

There will be a transition period anyway and a lot of the things mentioned by a previous poster (medicines etc) come from outside of the EU and nothings going to happen if it's more expensive to buy an Audi. Worst comes to worst people will have to skip the avocados in favour of more local seasonal produce and buy what's necessary rather than what they want, let's not all panic, we managed rationing for many years. This is not the same level by any stretch and no I'm not a brexiteer but we need to keep some perspective.
Please remember OP when you read some of these responses, you'll get similar hysteria because someone drank from the same cup as them or because a tradesman asked to use their toilet.

paint calm down. There’s no need for that is there?

I get the "we'll be fine attitude" what I don't get is refusing to acknowledge the possibility of poverty,starvation and deprivation when there are already people right now being homeless,using food banks and having to choose between food and other necessities. If there's no food shortage ,they will still be in the same shit situation,if there is they'll be in even more shit as a lot of support services rely on the goodwill of others,

I was referring to Alfie’s post about the UK being 4th in the 1960s, not your post about the sugar.

How is this not the same level?? We have a minister for food shortages! We're one step away from rationing.

If the withdrawal agreement isn't passed we're at no deal - as in no deals for anything. Any imports of anything will have to stop, not just from the EU. It may be for a few days, it may be for far longer. We have no idea.

Some people should stop spouting such shit without getting their heads out of the sand and informing themselves first of all!

People stockpiling for Brexit will cause shortages in the same way that people complaining about Brexit will cause it to go bad.

I think when peoples families , children and feeding them are involved tension is always going to be higher. I don’t want that added worry of not being able to feed mine so I will be prepared. But as I said I only buy food we will eat anyway so no extra left over.

I also have been adding more foods to the charity box at Tesco asnand when I can.

Given more people are over weight than not in the UK many of them could do with halving their calorie in take for a start, eating 2 meals a day and no snacks, only drinking tap water. Starting with that might help.

IF we crash out rather than go ahead with this perfectly acceptable Brexit deal which would assure things are okay, we will still manage. If people eat 1500 calories a day rather than 3000 it may save the NHS a ton of money too - so win win all round.

Why on earth would the US drop food parcels on us? They can't wait for us to crash out so they can make some serious money from the NHS and forcing a trade deal on us (that will only be in the interests of the US!!)

Ahh yes just rebrand it as a country wide diet. That'll do it.

Op: plenty of food is produced in this country so please don’t worry.
I’ve been buying mostly British for years to support our farmers & fruit growers.

Xenia I agree with you there, but be prepared to be called out for ‘fat shaming’.

It doesn't matter how rich we are if imports come to a halt.

I honestly cannot fathom why you would think imports would come to a halt. They won't. The UK government is not going to stop import of food and food producers based in other countries are not going to refuse to sell to the UK, why would they? Governments might be spiteful but business is business.

I think (and I am serious) that nations like USA will drop food on us if it actually comes to people starving.

Oh they will? I wonder the starving people in Yemen know that's an option. Or the U.S citizens living in poverty in their own country.

We are generally used to peace and plenty and so it's easy to imagine the world is a kind place. It isn't. People die needlessly all the time, all across the world. We aren't special.

Op I am not anticipating people dying of starvation but I do think it's very likely there will be a lot of disruption if there's no deal and yes the most vulnerable people will be forgotten about as they always are. Some will be at risk of death. A lot of people are already struggling horribly on Universal Credit. I'm not sure what anyone can do about that.

xenia with all due respect, do some research about obesity and what causes it.
Because it’s not about just eating too much.
Actually people who eat according to the ‘Eat well plate’ the NHS recommends are also likely to be overweight. (Do some research if you don’t believe it’).

One of the biggest factors of obesity is poverty. Poverty that has made 100 times worse by the Tories (see the UN report for that).
And why is poverty doing that? Because people no access to quality food.
They buy the cheap stuff, full of carbs and fats that is making them fat.
Because the dint always have the cooking facilities you need, the knifes etc etc.
Because they might struggle to pay for electricity or gas so a meal that takes a few mins in the microwave is all they can afford.

If we have food shortages, what is going to happen is that prices are going to go up. These people are going to struggle even more. Ifnthey loose weight, it will be also linked with malnutrition. Just like it does in third world countries.

So please get a grip and open your eyes to a world that isn’t yours.