Brexit -have you changed your mind??

[Leapfrog44]

I know Brexit has been done to death and I'm not asking for anyone's justification for wanting out or in.

I'm just really curious to know if any of the folks who voted leave have changed their minds (as is sometimes reported by the Guardian).

No.
Even more convinced we need to be out now after all the farting about.

No change here. Remain, remain, remain.

Foolish to call the 2016 referendum in the first place. It was divisive, and there was no clear plan for what should happen if Leave won. There still isn't.

The farting about is our side! Nothing to do with the EU.

41 years opposing the EU.

Decades of some politicians careers dedicated to it.

Still didn't have a plan, and this is the shambles you voted for.

Voted leave then, id vote leave again.

Horsfordiansunite just asking because normally Ive noticed that a lot of remainers arent actually interested in why leavers voted Out. They just think it was wrong and many (not necessarily here) are hugely vitriolic in their rage towards people voting out. I think that it suits certain remainers to believe that all Out voters are idiots or were conned, or would change their mind if they could vote again.... The idea that some Out voters did so rationally and with good reason, and still feel the same way doesnt sit well with them....

I just don't understand why people think that the likes of IDS, rees mogg and John redwood are looking out for the interests of ordinary people

We are so divided as a nation. Remainders hating Leavers and the Leavers getting more pissed off with the Remainers. The more each camp argues it's point the more entrenched the other side becomes. This country is fucked whatever happens with Brexit. It'll be decades before this heals. One half of the country will always blame the other for whatever transpires.

And no, would still vote remain.

Even Boris Johnson has changed his mind, or is possibly the start of the rats running from the sinking ship?

We'll be fine, aside from the concerns over getting everything into the country that we all rely on

Brexit has destroyed this country already. The damage is done. The divisions and consequences will take decades to heal. I'll probably not live to see either any benefit or reconciliation between the two sides. I'm 50.

It absolutely beggars belief and if you are still supporting it, you need your head read. I can't even be bothered to be polite about it anymore.

"The idea that some Out voters did so rationally and with good reason, and still feel the same way doesnt sit well with them"

That might be cause there are no legitimate reasons that were worth the significant risks involved.

What bugs me is that there has been 3 years of discussion, and not one legitimate reasons has come up.

Leavers here never give one.

Just asking why you hate the Eu. It's not perfect but not to blame for the current state of the nhs ,education, prison and probation service, policing etc.
In many respects it has enabled legislation that protects workers, the environment, food standards -it's a scapegoat and we should be directing all our anger at our own governments ineptitude

Voted leave. Would vote leave again if there was to be another referendum.

I am happy to give reasons as to why I voted to Leave. There are many many good reasons - just that they dont sit well with remainers Im afraid. Fundamentally I dont believe it should ever have been put to a public vote. But it was and my right to vote leave is as valid as your right to vote remain. The consequences as far as Im concerned are bad for us to stay as well.

." There are many many good reasons"

Please tell me some!

There are many many good reasons - just that they dont sit well with remainers Im afraid

All leavers say that “oh I could tell you, but you won’t like it so I won’t”

Convenient.

Here we go...

Horsfordiansunite- I dont think anyone on this thread has said they hate the EU? This is exactly why its so hard to have rational debate. I certainly dont hate the EU at all . I dont hate trade with Europe or travel to Europe. I fully supported the EU when it was the EEC and the reasons for its creation. I dont support the single market or Schengen (but then neither did we)

Roussette thats my WHOLE point - Remainers cant help but think all leavers are racist bigots who believe any nonsense they are told. There is not one thing on your little grid that I voted because of - grow up!

Benefits of leaving are?

Planning for leaving were?

UK met its match with the professionalism of the EU negotiators. IMV the myth of them needing us more than we need them has been well and truly kicked to touch. Twas the hubris that got us in the end!

Anyway. The whole world is laughing at the incompetence of the UK in all this. Believe me they are laughing at us.

But then again, all we have been told is to stockpile. That's great. Thanks for that. We all really need to do this, life will be wonderful, travel will be seamless, imports will be a doddle, ah well.

Voted leave and would do so again.
Think the country was going to the dogs anyway,but you better believe that Brexit is being used as a scapegoat.
In fact I am pretty convinced Brexit has been used exactly for this reason.

If remainers want leavers to change their minds it might be best not to call them stupid.
If it didn't work before the referendum it's unlikely to work now.

"If remainers want leavers to change their minds it might be best not to call them stupid."

Saw far many more leavers claiming this than I saw people being called stupid.

I'll await the good reasons.

I want to know how much it costs us to be in versus how much we gain. I’m sorry if this sounds ignorant or whatever. It’s bit the only thing about the eu that matters to me but I would like to know the answer to this.

No point trying to change those types of people's minds anyway. Too far gone.