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Mmr and links to austim
Michelle38wales · 03/11/2018 12:37
Do you think there’s a link with mmr and austim, I’ve already 3 children with austim so not sure about my baby having it
FredFlinstoneMadeOfBones · 03/11/2018 12:38
There is 100% no link. It's been completely debunked. Measles can have long term health consequences and even death. Get the vaccine.
GunpowderGelatine · 03/11/2018 12:40
No. The one doctor who claimed this was later struck off (for different reasons).
AornisHades · 03/11/2018 12:40
No I don't. My dc with autism plainly had differences before they had the vaccine.
MynameisJune · 03/11/2018 12:41
Absolutely not, Andrew Wakefield was a fraud and should be made to answer for all the damage he has done.
MamaLovesMango · 03/11/2018 12:41
Do you think there’s a link with mmr and austim
No because we know there’s isn’t for certain.
Screaminginsidemeagain · 03/11/2018 12:42
It’s be so proven not to have any link that I can’t believe it is even thought about now!
Gently I would say that the common factor with you children is genetics and there is nothing you can do about that I’m afraid.
InfantaSybilla · 03/11/2018 12:42
Why do you think it's the mmr? Not to be mean, but if you have 3 dcs with autism wouldn't genetic factors be a more likely conclusion?
BigRedBoat · 03/11/2018 12:42
No there isn't, but there are genetic links with autism where it runs in families - this is nothing to do with vaccination so definitely get your baby vaccinated.
belfastbosoms · 03/11/2018 12:43
Argh I can't believe people still question this! No there is no link. Get your baby vaccinated.
HoppingPavlova · 03/11/2018 12:44
Absolutely not. Don’t risk your children’s health, get them vaccinated.
I really thought people were past this now.
DeerHearts · 03/11/2018 12:45
I've not vaccinated my Dc, and even I know that ones a load of bs.
Dumbledora · 03/11/2018 12:45
I didn't vaccinate DD(18) With MMR, she had all her others and was fine.
DS aged 11 never had MMR but has autism, adhd, dyspraxia. He had measles when there was an outbreak a few years ago. Luckily he was fine after a few days.
No advice really but the link to autism has been completely debunked.
I still feel slightly uncomfortable with the amount of vaccines that are given in a very short space of time though. (Yes I will get flamed for saying that on here)
gamerchick · 03/11/2018 12:45
No, mine had autism long before he had any MMR.
Looking back through my dad's side of the family it's pretty obvious that autism is genetic and passed on. My adult kids know that if they have children then they take the chance of having one with ASD.
Saffkat · 03/11/2018 12:45
There is no link. Apparently though the rise of social media and the misinformation swirling around is causing vaccinations to be on the decline again. 
PurpleDaisies · 03/11/2018 12:45
No, and it’s depressing that this question is still being asked.
Karmin · 03/11/2018 12:46
Dr Wakefield, who published the link between the MMR and Autism to be given as single injections had filed for a patent for a single-antigen measles vaccine in 1997 and so would seem to have a potential financial interest in promoting this view.
Over the next twelve years, the possibility of a link between MMR and autism was studied exhaustively. No reputable, relevant study confirmed Wakefield’s findings; instead, many well-designed studies have found no link between MMR and bowel disease or MMR and autism. In 2004, then-editor Dr. Richard Horton of the Lancet wrote that Wakefield should had revealed to the journal that he had been paid by attorneys seeking to file lawsuits against vaccine manufacturers. In television interviews, Horton claimed that Wakefield’s research was “fatally flawed.” Most of the co-authors of the study retracted the interpretation in the paper. in May 2010, Britain’s General Medical Council banned Wakefield from practicing medicine in Britain, stating that he had shown “callous disregard” for children in the course of his research. The council also cited previously uncovered information about the extent to which Wakefield’s research was funded by lawyers hoping to sue vaccine manufacturers on behalf of parents of children with autism.
Most scientific and medical experts are satisfied that no connection exists between vaccines and autism and other neurodevelopmental disorders. Still, critics continue to question the issue. Not only do they question the relationship between MMR and thimerosal and autism, they bring up further culprits they believe might play a role in development of autism. Researchers continue to examine these questions, but there is no evidence that these factors play a role in autism development. Most autism researchers hold that the causes of autism are many and include genetic and environmental factors, but do not involve vaccines.
Source with research links
Chouetted · 03/11/2018 12:47
I'm autistic and didn't have the mmr. My dad is autistic and didn't have the mmr. My grandad was probably also autistic, and he didn't have the mmr either.
It's genetic. And sounds very likely to be genetic for you if you already have three kids with autism.
SinkGirl · 03/11/2018 12:48
No I don’t believe there’s any link, it has been thoroughly debunked. My twins are 2 - one has lots of issues and is being tested for genetic conditions but if that’s clear I think they’ll diagnose ASD. The other twin is also showing some signs of ASD.
The first had a big regression over the course of a couple of days at 18 months old and he’s never gotten those skills back. That’s six months after MMR, I can’t see how it could possibly be connected.
hipposarerad · 03/11/2018 12:51
Nope. My DS2 showed signs of being very 'different' when he was still a baby (virtually no eye contact during breastfeeding, plus other subtle signs), so before he had his MMR. So did my DS1 but as I was a first time mum my concerns were brushed off - he is now finally diagnosed (he is 10).
Also, my late father, who was born in 1946 so definitely pre-MMR, was a textbook case of undiagnosed autism. I've been wondering quite a lot about myself too - I was born in 1977 and I don't think MMR was offered because I got measles when I was 2 and my mother thought I was going to die (I don't think I was that bad, wasn't hospitalised or anything like that I just think she was very scared to see her toddler so poorly).
My humble opinion is that some families are just a bit 'autisticy', I know mine seems to be.
mummabubs · 03/11/2018 12:53
Categorically not. As others have pointed out "Dr" Andrew Wakefield, the man who fabricated data and based his theory on anecdote then presented it as fact, was stripped of his medical licence in the UK and struck off. His lies have done so much damage.
My boy had his MMR vaccine on Tuesday and is now in hospital with a raging fever and suspected sepsis, but I'd still vaccinate future children as from evidence I truly believe it to be a safe vaccine and the benefits far outweigh the small risk of reactions such as the one my son has now.
hipposarerad · 03/11/2018 12:54
To clarify, when I say I wonder about myself I mean I wonder if I might have autism too - or I think I could have a fair few traits.
greenlynx · 03/11/2018 12:54
I don’t believe there is a link. I think that different issues associated with autism just become noticeable around certain age and that’s coincidentally around the age of MMR vaccination.
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