Mmr and links to austim

[Michelle38wales]

Do you think there’s a link with mmr and austim, I’ve already 3 children with austim so not sure about my baby having it

Any written work that ends with ‘Love and Light’ would never be serious, reliable research.

that’s what I took because I don’t know where to even start with the rest

Autism has a genetic factor to it.
It's unknown what causes this genetic difference but it's been proven it's not, and never has been the MMR vaccination.

There is such this g as vaccination damage caused by the body reacting to a vaccine, but this isn't autism and is very rare.

I worked with a woman who paid private to have all the vaccines separately rather than all in one, that’s all I know though she didn’t go into details. It seemed worth it to her but as other posters have said it’s proven there is no link.

In fact, I think I should have used the example of seat belts causing brake failure, rather than air freshener.

But still, I wish people would either take science seriously, or leave it up to the people who do!

this isn’t the best place to discuss not vaccinating your child
Nowhere should be! Unless your child is in the very small group for whom any vaccination is a serious risk, there should not need to be any discussion. Just get the protection!
Lovemusic I’m really sorry your DC had bad reactions, but that doesn’t mean there is a problem with the vaccine for the majority.

My DS didn't have the MMR vaccination when he should have done as the Andrew Wakefield report had just been published (DS born 1996). DS was diagnosed as having HF ASD at age 6. So I can categorically say that the MMR did NOT cause his autism.

There was a measles outbreak nearby when DS was 16. He read up on the facts - about the disease and the Wakefield report - and he decided to go ahead and have the MMR jab. It made absolutely no difference to his ASD.

this isn’t the best place to discuss not vaccinating your child

Nowhere should be!

It’s fine to discuss the risks and benefits of not vaccinating. That should take place in a doctor’s office with actual proper scientific information rather than on the internet.

I too know someone who paid for separate vaccinations for their child because of this nonsense (much better than not vaccinating at all, mind you).

Their child is a fantastic person achieving brilliant things, and has autism.

No autism is genetic. My eldest (26) had a blood test for it last year while being tested for something else, they said he has markers as testing is still in its infancy apparently. Also my husband, his father and my youngest son have autism and none of them had the MMR. My youngest son had separate jabs it made no difference.

It's more likey your children's autism is caused by a unknown genetic fault that we don't yet know about. Which is why all three have it.

They are now making links between genetic faults and autism, one syndrome has already been discovered in which 50% of the children have autism.

If mmr caused autism it wouldn't be given. Why would the government want the cost of autistic children when services are already struggling to deal with their needs.

Roald Dahl wrote about measles, the rest is online:

This again?

My eldest (26) had a blood test for it last year while being tested for something else

I read last year they were testing this on volunteers with a 90% success rate of finding the markers in those with autism.
I see they are now using it!

Facinating.

I had a FB row (I know, I know - never get sucked in, but honestly the ill-informed CRAP she was writing terrified me) with a woman who still believes that Wakefield was right and that vaccines are the devil’s work. Oh, and apparently herd immunity is a myth...The first source she cited to support her argument? The Daily Mail.

Enough said...

Another parent here with an ASD child...who had clear indications way before he had the MMR. I have a neighbour who is 100% convinced his grandson only "got" autism after he had the MMR and does not believe he regressed because of autism. The MMR was coincidental. I believe it's genetic. There is a clear link through my ex-husband's family and indeed possibly my own. My DD from a previous relationship is NT.

Vaccinate your child.

There isn’t. The guy who started all this should be in prison. My brother was diagnosed around the same time this all came out and it still pisses me off.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross Its hard not to get drawn in isn't it? But so frustrating.

My autistic son didn’t actually have the MMR until he was 15 (he was born during the height of the controversy).
Clearly he was on the spectrum and officially diagnosed as such before the vaccine was given.

In my family undiagnosed or not autism runs deep. My son is on the diagnostic pathway (long waiting lists) and my brother has a dx and quite a few of us (myself included) have clear indications of having hfa and having what would have once been called aspergers.
Tbh though ASD is not the end of the world and without it we’d be pretty fucked as a society.

@TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross

Education around reliable vs unreliable sources of information is a real problem in society and even more prevalent now considering ‘information’ is so easily accessible. It really shouldn’t be something that’s left to higher education, which seems to be the norm.

theonlylivingboy it’s a shame there’s no cure to stupid.

my daughter is within the spectrum as is one of her first cousins & a second cousin (my sisters child & one of her gc) My dd & her dc are too old to have had the mmr - there is far stronger evidence of inherited factors (was psycho-social student ) there have been some interesting twin (peer reviewed) studies that suggest inheritance too. Interestingly Kennedy in USA who has a child within spectrum at the forefront of anti-vax had an Aunt(great aunt?) Rosemary who may well have been within the spectrum - she was given a lobotomy to control her - terrible story

Definitely not- DD1 showed signs of having autism long before she was given the MMR.
Get your baby vaccinated.

There is no link and never has been a genuine one. However, measles is a terrible illness. Given the choice, even if there was a risk of mmr causing autism, I would still vaccinate my child. Measles kills and can cause lifelong disabilities for those who have it. It’s the most preventable cause of death in the world.

We still don’t know the cause of autism but it’s not the MMR. I think it’s all genetic (although I’m clearly not a scientist).

I’m certain my mum is autistic (not that she would ever get herself tested) and my two siblings have autism. I am fine and have had the MMR (I’m also the youngest so there was a higher probability of me having autism). One sibling didn’t have the MMR and ended up with mumps and autism. My other sibling is ASD and higher functioning but had the MMR.

I’m pregnant at the moment and so I think that there is a high chance that this child will have either autism or ASD because of my crappy genetics but it is what it is.