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I need to have a difficult conversation with a colleague today.

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TheWifeofRequirement · 01/11/2018 07:58

I’m 6 months into a role where I’m an expert in charge of a team of slightly junior experts.

My colleague used to be a junior expert under another ‘head of’ who had the role before me, but before I was given the job my colleague took a sideways step into a facilitation role which, although requires him to have some knowledge of my area, no longer requires him to get involved in the day to day.

Anyway, since I started, this colleague has struggled to maintain distance from the specialism and is dictating to me how to do said specialism on a daily basis.

It all came to a head over the last 2 days. He asked me to proof read an email and give feedback before it went to a client. I read it, and asked him to make a minor change because he was promising something in the email I’m not prepared to deliver. It was a minor thing: basically he promised to report to them daily which would be untenable from a commercial perspective and would put pressure on my team for no additional benefit. I asked him to change this to weekly reports and adhoc check ins with the client, he argued back and I clarified that as it’s my team delivering this, it will be weekly not daily.

He sent the email promising daily reporting.

I feel patronised, undermined and really bloody cross.

His role is to facilitate, not to dictate to me how to do my job and I’m now going to have to phrase this in a way that’s diplomatic and I’m struggling.

WIBU to basically tell him to back the fuck off and let me do my job? If so, how on earth do I phrase this??

OP posts:
timeisnotaline · 07/11/2018 00:15

I think you are there op. You need to remember that ‘just stopping you there’ conversation. That is the line to take in future. It’s quick, easy, very clear, doesn’t get emotional. With a bit of practice this doesn’t take brain space, worrying at nights, extended emails that need careful drafting ie your time and emotional energy. It just has to come from a space of ‘confident you don’t need to worry about that. It’s my job. And everyone knows I’ve got that.’

Jux · 07/11/2018 01:09

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!

justilou1 · 07/11/2018 01:20

What @Jux said.

WhatchaMaCalllit · 07/11/2018 08:00

She was probably tired of having to go back over and over and over the material with OD, that she just went home and straight to bed, knackered!

Hopefully we'll get an updated today about how it went yesterday.....right???????

KitKat1985 · 07/11/2018 08:03

[Pops head in, scrolls through recent posts, sighs, and leaves disappointed]

TheMobileSiteMadeMeSignup · 07/11/2018 08:09

...rtft...hoping OD got the message loud and clear.

LongSummerDays · 07/11/2018 08:22

Oh! No update from OP?

I need to have a difficult conversation with a colleague today.
CoraPirbright · 07/11/2018 08:59

Oh dear. Hope OP isnt mired in endless meetings wth HR.....

Disfordarkchocolate · 07/11/2018 09:03

I'm worried someone has recognised this in real life.

BananasAreTheSourceOfEvil · 07/11/2018 09:31

I’m sitting in bed eating Percy pigs reading this whole thread... I need to know the ending!!! I’m nearly out of pigs!

rjay123 · 07/11/2018 10:00

I now want Percy pigs!

britnay · 07/11/2018 10:02

Percy Pigs are pretty epic

TheWifeofRequirement · 07/11/2018 11:08

Sorry sorry sorry sorry!

I’m alive and well and OD is alive, albeit far better trained than he was last week Grin

To his credit, he sat through 3 hours of training and didn’t smile ONCE, even when I cracked a joke about org charts..

He left the training session and went straight to our boss to complain about me and how I’d wasted his time all day, but my boss tells me he relied ‘actually I’m glad you had the training, not a waste of time at all.’

He then stormed over to my desk to ask me something completely inane and basic, but finished the question with ‘an I allowed to ask that now?’

I replied ‘of course, if anything from the training session was u clear let me know and we can go back over it’

Twat. Grin

OP posts:
DarlingNikita · 07/11/2018 11:10

Oooh, toys out of pram Grin

What a baby. Glad your boss has got your back. And well done you. You're a great manager and nice and evil

BananasAreTheSourceOfEvil · 07/11/2018 11:13

Yay!! He sounds well and truly pissed off that you put him in his place. Excellent.

Thankyou for the update! Delighted for you!

UrsulaPandress · 07/11/2018 11:14

Yay.

Lillyringlet · 07/11/2018 11:14

Lol that is brilliant! He doesn't have a leg to stand on and knows with your manager that he wasn't "clear" on the new way of things but does now.

Go you and your manager.

AfterSchoolWorry · 07/11/2018 11:17

Brilliant!

TheWifeofRequirement · 07/11/2018 11:20

It’s been a bit of a transformational week. I found my lady balls and that’s in no small part down to you lot Flowers

Thank you so much. I’ve started to catch myself whenever I apologise or feel I’m being rude etc and it’s amazing how often I feel the need to qualify things that I say even when I know I’m right.

It’s been a huge step forward for me generally and the first time I’ve ever really stood up for myself. Thanks to everyone who’s been like virtual cheerleaders all week and for confirming for me that it’s ok to be a bit rude if it’s for a good reason.

I also discovered I’m A LOT more maternal than I thought I was, but over my team, not kids Confused

OP posts:
WeeSausage · 07/11/2018 11:24

😂

WhatchaMaCalllit · 07/11/2018 11:31

You are some woman for one woman! Keep going @TheWifeOfRequirement - you're playing a blinder!

Can't believe after the training he went over to your mutual manager and complained about having to go on the training. If he hadn't overstepped in the first place, and just simply followed the new process, none of it would have been required. Silly dope!

Well done you though.

ContessaGoesMarchingDOWNTOHELL · 07/11/2018 11:31

Fantastic op Grin

Now, have you briefed your team on how they are to absolutely hold fast on protocol with this guy and to run everything he asks of them past you first? In fact in the short term it might be sensible to tell them to do that for everyone, even non-piss-takers, so he can't claim he's being unfairly stonewalled.

Bluelady · 07/11/2018 11:32

What an incredibly uplifting and empowering thread. Unpleasant colleague sorted out, credibility with manager massively enhanced. It doesn't get any better than this.

aaaaargghhhhelpme · 07/11/2018 11:37

Love you op! You rock Brew loving this update

LoniceraJaponica · 07/11/2018 11:39

Brilliant. It will certainly raise your profile in a positive way with your line manager.

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