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Aibu to be sick of doing it all and getting sh*t for it

250 replies

nc3005 · 30/10/2018 12:25

i need a rant so please bear with me.

What is with people (i.e. my “d”p) who refuse or don’t bother to make decisions, leaving the entire burden on you to do so (talking things like holiday planning, organising budgets, joint savings and other finances, meal planning, even what to do on the weekend) and then they get pissy after the fact (sometimes way after) because you - the one who is always left to actually make the decisions/book the tickets/pay the bills/etc or it won’t happen - are “controlling”, don’t let them have ansay etc.
For the record I used to be indecisive and I think I’m a massive people pleaser. I always feel like I need someone else to “approve” before I book something, etc. For a holiday in the recent past I spent ages researching all possible flights, hotels, itineraries, budgets- repeatedly put them in front of dp hoping he’d opine on what he liked. Always the same vague “they all look good”. It ended up costing about a third more because we had left it so late. It was an amazing holiday but he recently threw it back in a row that I’d “just picked all the hotels/etc I liked” and he hadn’t had a say. He also was presented with a list of about 100 wedding venues in a 2 hour radius of us so we could pick and set up viewings. Again, he picked none. We ended up visiting some, picked a gorgeous one that he really liked. Now it’s all “you took control of our wedding planning, I didn’t get a say”. All of this really feeds my anxiety/people pleasing and lose confidence to plan or suggest anything.

I do accounts for a living, we are now combining our finances and I have recently worked out all our upcoming regular and one off expenses and how much we could afford to save for a big purchase in the next 2 years. Have offered to take him through this spreadsheet several times to see if he agrees with the figures. He either is too tired or not engaged. We are as a result a month behind on our savings target as we have yet to transfer direct debits, get our joint account etc. Whenever I raise the joint savings etc he tells me to stop being controlling, he wants “his say” etc- but he has no interest in crunching the numbers with me. If he ever does take an interest he seems happy and he never disagrees, but will throw back in arguments that I’m controlling everything.

For me, it feels like I can’t win. He is either passive aggressively refusing to engage because he disagrees, or he feels guilty that he never does anything, or he resents being so dependent on me to do the heavy lifting. Or all of the above. I keep asking for input, getting nothing, then down the line getting shit for having made the decisions. Might I add that he generally finds women in charge annoying - his SIL and Mum are “nags”, any assertive woman on tv is “annoying”, etc. His mum advised me to “let him think he’s in charge, men like it”. What is it - the 1950s?!?

I’ve half a mind to stop planning our jointly-wanted nice holiday next year until the next time he brings it up. By which time the prices will no doubt have skyrocketed.

Aibu?!?

OP posts:
MrsStrowman · 30/10/2018 12:29

Erm why did you marry him and why on earth are you joining finances? He's a twat. He either had a day or he doesn't. I do tend to research and organise a lot of things, holidays, insurance etc, I don't mind and DH never complains, he just thanks me for sorting things out. I have asked him for opinions of he has I've he gives it, if he says he doesn't mind either way it means he doesn't mind either way, so I'll pick.

ferntwist · 30/10/2018 12:30

Oh my gawd, YANBU at all. He’s totally taking advantage of your good nature. You’re running in ever-decreasing circles around him, trying to please him and he won’t even throw you a bone. What makes his time so precious and your time and effort so cheap? It sounds like you’re already very committed but if I were you I’d want to reset the whole way this relationship works. He’s not enhancing your life. And you can see he’s got a problem with women. Look after yourself.

Havaina · 30/10/2018 12:35

Don't organise the next holiday. When he brings it up, tell him you left it to him to organise as he calls you controlling.

If it's expensive say that that is above budget and therefore he needs to pay the difference out of his own pocket, not joint money.

If he says he won't, you organise a holiday for yourself with friends or relatives.

Rednaxela · 30/10/2018 12:39

It's bullshit. Call him out on it.

"You're controlling"

No I'm not. Have you forgotten all the times I put the info in front of you and begged you to have an opinion? Do you think I wanted to be in a marriage where I have to do everything by myself and then get criticised for it? Fuck off.

He's relying on Groundhog Day. Denying what actually happened. Gaslighting. Same argument round and round in self defeating circles. Because he doesn't want to engage with you, or himself, or reality. He wants to carry on behaving like a manchild.

Call him out every single time

emss55 · 30/10/2018 12:56

I'm with the advice given. Let him take some of the strain. Why should you organise it all and he just whines about not getting his choice. Bloody men Angry

ferntwist · 30/10/2018 13:13

The book The Surrendered Wife is interesting on this issue - I definitely don’t agree with all of it but it has good advice on self care and disengaging when your husband leaves all the work to you.

Shoxfordian · 30/10/2018 13:22

Don't know why you've stayed with him all this time. You're supposed to be a team and he's basically checked out of the process. He's lazy and he's making you do everything because he can't be bothered to fully contribute to your lives. It's not on.

SnappedandFartedagain · 30/10/2018 15:50

Trust me it will only get worse. He will never change and what seems like an annoying but manageable issue now will seep into every part of your relationship and ruin your mental health. Just wait until you have to start discussing important stuff like how to parent your children or what schools they should attend and he’s still accusing you of nagging whilst basically acting as an extra in his own life. I’d really reconsider marrying this man.

Olderbyaminute · 30/10/2018 16:44

He’s gaslighting you nc3005 and he sounds a) Lazy b) chauvinistic c) ignorant d) ungrateful! Good grief why would you join finances with a man-child like that? The problem is DP

jay55 · 30/10/2018 17:01

Organise your next holiday, for one and go alone.

Blanchedupetitpois · 30/10/2018 17:03

Why are you marrying this arsehole? You can so clearly see the issue with him! Get out now!

Disfordarkchocolate · 30/10/2018 17:04

I wouldn't advice fully joining your finances to someone like this. Set up your own savings account in your name and set up one he pays into by direct debit and leave him to it.

pandarific · 30/10/2018 17:15

Do not marry him! His own mother knows he's a cock end fgs - RUN!

timeisnotaline · 30/10/2018 17:18

Give him 2 weeks. After this date you book the holiday just for you unless he has reviewed the options you’ve chosen and put in his clear opinion which values your initial legwork or says in writing I truly don’t mind darling I’m so grateful you are doing the organising. I understand that if I bring this holiday up as a negative I might be divorced soon after.
And repeat for everything.
Or just move on or completely separate finances because it sounds awful.

AdoraBell · 30/10/2018 17:24

Is he DP or DH? If you haven’t married him then my advice is walk away because this will not get any better. More likely it will get worse.

Hellesbelle · 30/10/2018 17:32

I read your message and thought someone was talking about me. I did marry a man like that lazy, spending money we didn’t have because he could use whatever it was to make extra money quick. The only thing he made quick were debts PLEASE don’t make any joint accounts have a savings acc just in your name. To be honest with you if you don’t have any children with this man then seriously consider getting out Now, you don’t realize it but he’s controlling you, and breaking down your self esteem and confidence, abuse doesn’t have to be physical, mental and emotional abuse are just as bad but all the wounds are on the inside. You don’t need to please him or do anything you’re supposed to be a partnership but you are really not. Once you marry this control freak you may well find it gets much worse and getting out of a bad marriage is much harder than just splitting up with someone. You have to protect yourself because you’re worth it, you are strong and giving so find someone who knows what a special person you are and loves you for it. Good luck

marvellousnightforamooncup · 30/10/2018 17:49

Think very carefully before you marry this gaslighting, chauvinist arse. Calling off the wedding will be a huge pain in the arse but an abusive marriage and divorce are worse.

nc3005 · 30/10/2018 17:59

This thread has been quite the eye opener. I feel (for the first time) like I might actually have a point, though he maintains that I am bossy and so even suggesting a movie to watch or a fun weekend activity (which he never does) is fraught with worry that I’ve overstepped. My god this is annoying to me that I’ve ended up tiptoeing around such a lazy man! He does have his really good points, he is loving, supportive, generous financially and does his share round the house. But on the cusp of joining finances (the plan was to save my income and live on his, much higher one while we save for something for 1.5-2 years) and I feel unheard, frustrated and unsure who I’m doing all this for anymore.

OP posts:
TheHodgeoftheHedge · 30/10/2018 18:06

Is this really how you want to live for the rest of your life? All the burden on you and constantly on egg shells about every decision?

Isleepinahedgefund · 30/10/2018 18:18

I used to be in a relationship with someone like you describe. I had the feeling of walking on eggshells like you describe, over simple things like a movie.

He “didn’t mind” about anything, and would then tell me I was trying to “engineer things”.

I had a child with him (unplanned) and he was actually quite helpful, pulled his weight round the house, was all on board with the finances etc to start with. When the mask slipped, boy did it slip - it was as if I was living with a different person.

My life is 100% better without him. It’s a form of control .

nc3005 · 30/10/2018 18:21

Isleepinahedgefund “engineer things”? This sounds a lot like my dp. When/why would he say that?

OP posts:
whatsthestory123 · 30/10/2018 18:32

and your still planning on staying with him?

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 30/10/2018 18:50

Marriage is a partnership OP ,much like anything else..Would you form a business with him? Could you count on support,input,commitment and dedication with him? You are heading nowhere fast with him and he has made it obvious to you he doesnt respect you or will match the effort you put in...Is he really the prince you dreamed of ?? Sorry OP I just think he doesnt share your aspirations and dreams and value your relationship ...there is zero effort in this. Really you're on your own already cos you have to beg and try to justify your actions and he is sitting back letting you...not on and not what you deserve, His level of commitment to your relationship long term should equally match yours..its the only way a marriage can work to survive lifes ups and downs.Its hard enough life as it is without the one who is supposed to be in your corner unquestionably battling you too.

WhiteVixen · 30/10/2018 19:43

All of this really feeds my anxiety/people pleasing and lose confidence to plan or suggest anything

And this is exactly why he’s doing it (and he’s absolutely doing it on purpose). To keep you on the back foot and generally make you more anxious.

SnappedandFartedagain · 30/10/2018 19:50

If you want to save up then by all means do it, but open up two help to buy ISAs, one in each of your names, and save half in each account every month. Would make more financial sense anyway.

Believe me, planning and organising every single aspect of the entire family’s existence, especially for someone who doesn’t appreciate the enormity of what you are doing for them, gets tiring very quickly.

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