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Adored sister and gossipy school gate

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LisbethM · 30/10/2018 10:24

My sister has been diagnosed with a rare cancer that has a poor prognosis. We are very close and I love her very much. Our children attend the same school.

When she was diagnosed I immediately took time off work to be with her. In doing so I was forced to give a short and confidential explanation to a colleague (I simply said a member of my family was very unwell and she had small children I needed to assist with).

A few days later a parent at the school emailed my sister to see if she was “sick” as they had heard “on the grapevine” that I had an unwell family member. My beautiful and private sister was devastated by the thought of a “grapevine” in process, more so as she had not yet told her own children.

I was mortified and knew immediately it was my colleague who had spread the rumour. I confronted him and he immediately and unequivocally apologised. He is a good person and I forgave him. He spoke to the other couple who had emailed my sister.

That couple have not apologised, in fact they behave as though they are somehow aggrieved. They avoid my gaze at the school gate and are otherwise oblivious. I can’t move past it. I love my sister, she is gentle and dignified. She wants me to let it go because she can’t bear attention or conflict. But I find myself loathing this couple and wishing them ill. The feelings are overwhelming and perhaps are displaced grief. But what should I do? Confront the couple? Ask for an apology? Ignore and avoid?

I would appreciate opinions please to help me overcome these feelings and focus on my sister.

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teaandtoast · 30/10/2018 11:35

I'm not so sure the colleague is a 'good person' if he immediately started spreading your confidential news. It could be displaced anger towards him. He is the one at fault here. I'd try to ignore the couple.
If you have this sort of situation to deal with in future (God forbid), perhaps you could say 'they' instead of 'she'. It might put them off the scent a bit.
Best wishes to your sister. Flowers

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3luckystars · 30/10/2018 11:35

They know because your colleague has said it to them by now. They know and are (I hope) embarrassed.

They did not know how sick your sister was. I'm so sorry but they have stupidly made a bad situation even more painful. You are mad with them for upsetting your sister, when she is already suffering.
If you want to say it to them you can, but they didn't know. They might be idiots but they did not know.

I think you had to focus your anger on something or you will be in physical pain from this terrible situation. I'm so sorry you are dealing with this. It's awful.

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LisbethM · 30/10/2018 11:36

Thanks teddybearBaby Yes maybe I’ll email them as a way of explaining my feelings. Even though I am bereft and angry I am not the type to cause a scene. I think that’s why I am so insane. It’s all internalised rage!!!

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LisbethM · 30/10/2018 11:38

Thanks threeluckystars

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ButchyRestingFace · 30/10/2018 11:38

My colleague is a lawyer. Confidentiality is next to godliness. I don’t lie to my colleagues or “come up with excuses”. I am honest. And I expect privacy and respect.

So why aren't you angry with them? Clearly they don't share your views about confidentiality.

Anyway, good luck with whatever you decide and best wishes to your sister. Smile

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Mummyoflittledragon · 30/10/2018 11:38

Are they normally unkind people? They are possibly feeling embarrassed rather than aggrieved. It is Likely to be perplexing for them that their genuine offers were misconstrued.

Do you want to say something to them about the situation? Can you email them if it’s too hard face to face. Your sister has their email address afterall.

Much as that particular day was supposed to be special, I imagine you are able to have other special days. I think you should focus on the now and planning things achievable for your sister in the future otherwise you’re risk spending your time being wound up by two relative strangers. You cannot get the time that you have right now back.

Your upset with them will fade over time. And yes, I agree you are displacing.

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SirVixofVixHall · 30/10/2018 11:40

I think there are different things going on here. You are understandably very upset about your sister’s illness, and I am very sorry that she is so unwell.
You have had a confidence betrayed, which is pretty shabby, and you are hurt and angry about that. The man responsible has apologised, which has diffused your feelings of (justifiable) anger towards him, but the tactless, thoughtless pair who contacted your sister have not apologised and are acting like the aggrieved party.
Well I think feeling very angry is reasonable here ! What a stupid and insensitive thing to do. I think they’ve been caught out and are acting huffily as a defensive strategy.
Part of your anger might be because you have been rendered helpless in this passing on of information, just as you are helpless in the face of your sister’s illness. I agree with prior posters that you need to try not to give it too much headspace, save your energy for yourself and your family now. You could say something to the couple concerned if you wanted to get it off your chest, but it won’t make things any easier for you or your sister. Sadly the best course of action is to rise above it, keep a dignified presence, and just focus on supporting your sister. I’m sure anyone else who knows that they emailed your sister in such an intrusive way will be horrified.
You are totally justified in feeling ragey, but perhaps for your own sake you need to let the rage out in other ways (physical activity ? Punching a pillow? ) , and ignore them.
Flowers

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yorkshirepud44 · 30/10/2018 11:40

I'm so sorry for your situation. Your anger and upset is understandable.

I wonder if this has massively triggered your need to protect your sister, the lioness thing we have with our dcs. I'd strongly recommend you contact a counselling support service who will be trained to deal with people in exactly your position.

Letting it out safely might help you move on from this incident and process what's happening elsewhere.  for you both.

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LisbethM · 30/10/2018 11:43

mummyoflittledragon yes I think I do want to say something to them. They are perplexed I think but I can’t let it go until I let them know why I feel upset. I almost want to invite them to apologise so I can let it go! I know it’s not rational but I am not in a rational place and I want to get to a better place.

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HoldMeCloserTonyDanza · 30/10/2018 11:45

They were hardly "caught gossiping" - they directly contacted the ill sister! If anything, they seem to have not wanted to hear something behind her back without being upfront about it.

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Hazardswan · 30/10/2018 11:46

Hi OP some people like the drama of an illness, they love to make themselves look helpful and oh so kind, then talk about it to EVERYONE. It's aggravating and annoying. On top of that they ruined a nice day with your sister and spending quality time with her will feel so important to you now. You have every right to be angry.

Unfortunately there's not a lot you can do about them, either a) ignore and move on or b) fake friendly over the top, passive aggressive and bitchy in manner.

As someone who has been in a similar situation I did option b... it has not made me a better person or the bigger one Hmm

You sound lovely and caring and i have every faith that you'll be a better person then me Grin

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Goostacean · 30/10/2018 11:46

How horrible, OP, I really feel for you. Their behaviour may be explained by what your colleague said to them, if I understood correctly he “spoke to them” after their email? Maybe they’re embarrassed/want to apologise but think, based on what they now know, it’s best not to bother you or approach you at this difficult time. Especially as they clearly put their foot (feet?) in it with the email.

Tbh it does sound like they’re just gossips, but it’ll be better for your mental health to try not to ascribe bad motives to people. I’d not email them, personally, as that will
invariably prolong any discussion etc. As difficult as it is, try to focus on your sister, her children, spending happy times together (maybe another day out to make up for the one that was spoilt?), and ignore the idiots of this world. Flowers

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SophiaLovesSummer · 30/10/2018 11:47

Wow. Your poor sister and poor you. Extra grief is the last thing you need right now; I'm so sorry this has happened, it's beyond shitty.

I'm stunned that your colleague is a lawyer, that makes his breaching confidentiality even worse - what did he say to you explanation wise? It's hard to see he was doing anything other than pure gossiping which is just outrageous. Did he give you any 'reason' why he told these people? Or did he fess it was just pure gossip?

I too think your anger is displaced but not your anger about the illness but your anger at him. It feels like you have 'let go of it' as he is a 'good person' but underneath you are (rightly) still fuming. I'm horrified he has used your professional conversation as gossip fodder and can't help but think you should report him - what were his actual words when you confronted him?

I too would be livid, I'm so so sorry as this is the last thing you or your sister need and the innate trivialising of her very serious condition to a piece of gossip would absolutely stick in my craw too.

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MsLexic · 30/10/2018 11:50

I would not hate someone for that, love. Maybe they were hoping to offer advice/ help however misplaced. It was not open spite or anything like that.
I am so very sorry about your sister, I really mean that.xxx

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SonEtLumiere · 30/10/2018 11:50

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Tidy2018 · 30/10/2018 11:50

I don't want to upaet you further, but the nosy gossipy couple at the schoolgates means that you and your sister perhaps should contact the school and discuss protecting your respective children against potential playground gossip.

And FWIW, I would direct my anger at the colleague whose indiscretion has caused you and your sister such distress.

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Mummyoflittledragon · 30/10/2018 11:52

I don’t think you can invite them to apologise. But you know that. 😊

How about stating you’re sorry for your reaction, which they may find perplexing. They should not have been told about your sister’s illness as it isn’t / wasn’t common knowledge even to close family members. You appreciate them enquiring after your sister.

Often when you give people what you want they reciprocate.

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Allthewaves · 30/10/2018 11:52

I think your grief is talking. They didn't know your sister has such a serious illness. For all they know it was something temporary that needed your help. If these people are friendly with your sister then they may have just been reaching out to see how she was - not gossiping as such.

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Goostacean · 30/10/2018 11:53

Agree with pps, I think your colleague needs dealing with more harshly- but I think that’s a job for later, not now. Really hope you can find some peace in this situation.

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Allthewaves · 30/10/2018 11:54

Tbh if I heard another mum was ill and her sister had to take time off to help, I would reach out to see if there's anything practically I could do to help - school drops offs etc

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chocatoo · 30/10/2018 11:55

I think your feelings towards them are displaced anger about what your family are having to go through.
If yr DSis illness is out in the open now, how about approaching them and saying that if they are still concerned and would like to help then here are some practical things that they could do. I.e. try to give them a chance to turn it around by them doing some positive stuff. If there’s nothing they can help with, maybe they could support you/your sis by chatting or going for coffee, etc. I expect they would be pleased to be given the chance to make amends.

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LisbethM · 30/10/2018 11:59

Thank you so much lovely mumsnetters ♥️
I could understand if they knew it was my sister but they did not. I have three sisters. They only knew my “family member” was unwell and emailed to find out if it was my sister. They finished the email “we saw you last week and you looked fine”. She is dying of cancer.

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Havaina · 30/10/2018 11:59

Definitely speak to them OP or send them an email. You have a heavy weight on your heart because of this and it's distracting you from supporting your my sister.

By speaking to this couple and telling them how much they distressed your sister, it will help remove the burden from you.

I never regret the times I stood up for myself or loved ones, but I regret the times I didn't.

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InfiniteVariety · 30/10/2018 12:01

Your colleague is the one at fault here. He broke a confidence. He is the crass & insensitive gossip in this incident. He possibly didn't make it clear to this couple that it was something he'd been told in confidence and perhaps they were just making kind enquiries? I don't understand why your anger is aimed at them and not your colleague

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LisbethM · 30/10/2018 12:01

You sound like a very sweet person chicatoo!!! I certainly do not want to chat and have coffee with these people!! I want to purge my rage. But it is a credit to you that your suggestions are so kind Smile

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