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To be so fed up of being judged by other mothers.

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QueenofmyPrinces · 22/10/2018 22:24

I’m feeling really annoyed at the moment.

Me and my husband have two children, the oldest being 4.5 years old.

My husband is a teacher and so gets plenty of holidays throughout the year.

We take two family holidays a year where we go abroad: a fortnight away over Easter and another fortnight away during the Summer.

On another two occasions a year, because my husband has the time off, he and our eldest son go abroad together, just somewhere cheep and cheerful and it’s usually during the February and October half terms. This arrangement has been going on for two years now and although I found it hard the first time they went away it’s become our norm now and they both love having that quality time together. They have a fantastic relationship.

They are due to go on their October half term holiday next week where they are going to Malta for five days and our son is obviously very excited about going!!

What I’m getting really frustrated with is the judgemental comments and facial expressions from colleagues (and some acquaintances) about the fact DH and DS go away without me. I am constantly told that they “could never do it,” and how they “could never be away from their children,” and a whole heap of other sly comments. The looks they give me sometimes when I make reference to DH’s and DS’s trips away together make me feel awful. It’s like they are thinking I’m a neglectful mum and they are clearly judging me for the fact that I can be away from my son. I’m finding it increasingly difficult.

I’m nearly at the point of asking my husband not to go next week, not because I don’t want them to go, but because I can’t cope with the judgements on me anymore.

I know deep down that I won’t ask them to cancel this one as our eldest is so looking forward to going on his “Boys holiday” (as they call it) but I’m thinking of asking my husband to stop taking him away from now on.

My husband tells me not to let other people upset me but I said it’s easy for him because he gets the accolade of being such a “brilliant dad” because he takes his son on a trip away whereas I’m the shit mum because I don’t mind them going.

I have women tell me that they’d never let their husband take the children away from them. I asked them if they’d be so horrified if a mother took her child away for a week with the dad staying at home because of work and they just shrug. They tell me it’s different for women because the children “need to be with us” and they can’t understand how I can be okay with my son not being home with me.

I’m just so fed up of being made to feel like crap.

They have me doubting myself. I’m starting to wonder if maybe I am a crap mum because I am happy for them to go away and have their quality time together. I don’t know anymore.

I’m reeling after a conversation I’ve just had with my brother’s wife who said she really couldn’t understand how I can cope when my son is in another Country and she knows she’d never be able to be away from her child.

It just leaves me feeling so shitty about myself. Needless to say I love my son but I don’t understand what is so bad about him and my husband having a short trip away together? Why does it make me a bad mother? I don’t get it.

I’m just feeling very down about it Sad

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Urbanvoltaire · 22/10/2018 23:09

You need a new set of friends op. Tell them to mind their own business and to but out.

Enjoy your time on your own, sounds like bliss and your son and husband have their quality time as well. The best of both worlds. When your son is older, he'll look back at those breaks with his dad with a good feeling.

Fwiw, my dad used to take me and my siblings away for a long weekend (about an hours drive, to a hotel with a pool!) and we loved it - it was like an adventure with just him whilst my mum stayed home. We loved those annual weekends.

WanderingTrolley1 · 22/10/2018 23:10

Ignore.

QueenofmyPrinces · 22/10/2018 23:11

I find it a bit strange though if your husband doesn’t enjoy it so much

He does it because of the enjoyment our son gets from it. I think my DH grew up in a family where they didn’t have holidays, they didn’t have new experiences etc and he said he doesn’t want that for our children. He said that no matter how bored or tired he gets, he just has to watch our son having fun in the beach or splashing about in the pool and it makes it worthwhile.

Personally I think he’s crazy because I’m not sure I’d want to go away on my own with our son. I can’t believe he’s looking forward to the time he can take both boys because I would find that incredibly stressful if I had to do it myself. He’s so much more laid back than me though, he just takes it all in his stride.

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Failingat40 · 22/10/2018 23:11

1 Jealousy is at the route of this. They are lashing out trying to make you feel bad, when in truth they'd love the opportunity for all these holidays and a long weekend to themselves twice a year!

  1. Don't share personal information with colleagues. They don't need to know.
  1. Absolutely send your boys off and enjoy your break from them.

Whereisthegin1978 · 22/10/2018 23:15

I think it’s really lovely that they go away on a father/son trip. It’s awful that people make those comments. I’m guessing you do miss them hut also know that they are having fun / it’s short term and you are getting on with whatever you’re doing. People are probably just jealous that their dh doesn’t take the children away leaving them some peace and quiet !

Harmonyrays · 22/10/2018 23:17

Sorry havent read through all posts but I wanted to say it's not them MAKING you feel like a bad mum. You need to separate out your thoughts from your emotions and own YOUR emotions. You think something e.g. 'I'm a bad mum' after you have interpreted their reaction. Unless they have outright said you are.

GreenDinosaur · 22/10/2018 23:18

Why do people feel the need to comment on other people's choices all the time?
We all judge to a certain extent, it's natural but just keep it to yourself.

I have friends who took a 3 week trip to Mexico during their daughter's 1st year and left her with Granny. I was more than a bit Shock but it obviously suited them and I wouldn't have dreamt of saying anything to them about it. Not my business.
I just hoped they'd had a nice time. Why do they need to know that "I wouldn't do that"? Does that make me better in some way? No, just different.

Maybe stop telling your friends so much if they are so bitchy about it.

NoSquirrels · 22/10/2018 23:22

I think you’ve just got some extremely insecure friends & family, OP, quite honestly. It’s not unusual to be A-OK with time away from your DC.

I would be questioning why your DH does it though if he has to stay in Kids Club with your DS (the ONLY benefit of Kids Club is time to yourself!) and hates evenings alone. Sounds as if they’d both be better off with a long weekend at a water park hotel in this country and then days out together in half term.

I rather suspect your DH enjoys the nights to himself as much as you (presumably?) do - but doesn’t want to say so!

It’s OK to like time apart, it really is - whether that’s time apart DH & DW or time apart DM/DC or DF/DC. Just be honest and ignore people judging.

noworklifebalance · 22/10/2018 23:23

YANBU

And stop telling them your family holiday plans

tillytrotter1 · 22/10/2018 23:26

I have women tell me that they’d never let their husband take the children away from them

'Their husband' but 'the children'? Surely they're his children too.

Look at the children of these perfect mothers. their children are probably clingy and a nightmare in school

noworklifebalance · 22/10/2018 23:26

Just to add, I don't know of a single person who would say that to me if my husband was to take one (or both) of our kids away for a few days. They would all be telling me of the great things I could do with my spare time - read a book in bed for hours, lunch with friends, a spot of shopping, shower in peace, wee in peace - my bar is not set very high currently

QueenofmyPrinces · 22/10/2018 23:30

My argument exactly. I’m not too sure what harm is going to come to my son just because his dad is looking after him as opposed to me?

I tell them I trust my husband completely, that’s he’s just as good and competent parent as I am and say why on earth would I not “let” him take our son away? I’m then typically met with the standard, “I just know I couldn’t do it,” responses.

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Ellisandra · 22/10/2018 23:33

That doesn’t explain why you care about their opinions so much, that you’ve considered cancelling the trips, or excluding your younger son. I don’t understand why you take their comments so much to heart, if you disagree.

NoSquirrels · 22/10/2018 23:34

I’m then typically met with the standard, “I just know I couldn’t do it,” responses

People will say things though when they know they’ll never get that chance - because their family can’t afford it, or because their DP is a useless parent, or an unwilling lazy parent, or whatever.

Don’t take it to heart. Why should you?

WeShouldBeFriends · 22/10/2018 23:49

Obviously you're not wrong for being happy with the arrangement but neither are they for finding it odd. We all parent differently Confused

confusedmomm · 22/10/2018 23:51

We do it every year! Both me and DS as well as DH and DS. Of course we travel together too but if one is tied at work then why should the other not go. Life is too short to stress about comments.

It's awfully good for them to have some boys bonding time and it's very sweet of your DH to want to take little one too next year. Why not.

Holidayshopping · 22/10/2018 23:53

Don’t tell them anything - they sound horrible Confused.

callmeadoctor · 22/10/2018 23:55

Its very easy, when they mention holidays you say we have nothing booked at the moment, its really not the big deal that you are making it!

sobeyondthehills · 22/10/2018 23:59

Some of my best memories were going away with my Dad, we had some great holidays, I also really looked forward to the few weekends away with just my mum.

Also off topic slightly, I am Maltese and its an amazing place, great place to have a holiday

peaky2018 · 23/10/2018 05:41

I would just ignore these women and not tell them too much about your personal life again. I've got two boys with a 4 year age gap and they are at a stage where they like different things. DH took my eldest to see the Pyramids last year and I took my youngest to Yorkshire. I've taken my eldest to Amsterdam for a few days just the two of us too. It's great as we couldn't have afforded for us all to go and no point dragging the youngest one around and paying for him to see something he's not interested in at the moment. I think it is brilliant that your son is getting some 1:1 Dad time and also getting to see more of the world. I

Sleephead1 · 23/10/2018 05:52

I will be honest it's not something I would do but I certainly don't judge you for doing it. I've taken my son away for a few days alone while my husband is at work we where in the same country not far away. I think you are in a unusual situation because most people will be looking at it from their point if view and obviously most people don't get that much holiday and won't be going on 4 holidays a year so are probably looking at it from their own situation eg tbey go on one holiday a year so find it odd that your not going. If you are genuinely happy with it the just ignore anyone else if it works for you it works. w
I was just talking about this I was a sahm for three and a half years and have had comments about that but I would never comment on anyone else situation. But mothers are judged on breast v bottle , nursery v family childcare , sahm , working mum. You just have to do what's best for your family and ignore the comments

Shoxfordian · 23/10/2018 06:00

Just ignore them. Don't let their comments stop your husband from taking his son on holiday, that's just stupid. Stop talking so much at work about your family life if it bothers you.

Mummadeeze · 23/10/2018 06:00

I regularly take my daughter on holidays abroad without her Dad. Lots of reasons for that. But mainly because he is anxious and phobic of travelling and I do not want her to develop the same fears, nor miss out on great experiences because of his issues. Obviously I have asked him many times to get counselling etc but he doesn’t want to. He is nervous about us going away (partly because of his own anxieties) but we skype him and keep him updated all the time and he can tell how much fun she is having so he never stands in her way nor tries to tell us not to go. I have taken her to USA, Hawaii, France and Spain. It is sad he has missed out, but at least she hasn’t. Re. him taking her away, I know I would struggle with that - but that is purely because of the person he is. He looks after her well but because of his anxieties, he fusses and worries over her 24/7 and I know if he was out of his comfort zone, it would be even worse. If he was balanced and capable and I had full trust that she would enjoy a week away with him (and I was unable to go for work or financial reasons) then I would be supportive of them going away together. I am totally happy to work all half term and leave them together doing local things and stuff at home. I guess what i am trying to say is those judging you are rude but they are probably basing it on how they feel about their own partners. I think it is great that yours is such a hands on great Dad and that he wants to go on nice holidays with your son. Just put them right and have faith in your convictions.

Santaclarita · 23/10/2018 06:05

I would just be pointing out that it says far more about their husbands that they don't trust them to look after their own kids alone.

If they want to be bitchy be bitchy back. They deserve it.

hazell42 · 23/10/2018 06:10

You are being over sensitive
I get told, I could never do that, about my holidays. People are interested in other people's holidays
Doesn't make It a judgement