To ask what people are afraid of with a People's Vote?

[Bearbehind]

Estimates reckon there were nearly a million people at the Peoples Vote march yesterday so support for it is high.

Why is it such a threat to others though?

If you're so convinced Leaving is the right thing to do for the country, why wouldn't you want that to be endorsed now people have a clearer idea of what is to come?

Or is it that you're worried Leave would now lose as it's been made clear there are no upsides?

In which case why do you want to go ahead with it anyway?

@mummmy2017

Is that what you want for a 1st world economy? a leading nation in europe or indeed the world, to be stockpiling essential medicines, chartering ships for food, turning the M26 into a lorry park, unable to resume its place at the WTO and losing 70 plus FTA's we currently enjoy as part of the EU? (and renegotiate 750 treaties too)

Because i don't, we are better than this, however if its in our best interests to leave the EU, then so be it but it must be in our best interests not some feeling that we can be Great again, whatever that is.. WE are Great now!!!! the worlds 5/6th richest economy, a seat at the UN security council, 9th in the list of world exporters..... all that is needed is to re-distribute our wealth a little more fairly, not blow our bl00dy economic legs off!

They manage a massive budget.
Set rules, make sure there is fuel for cars, that foid arrives for us to eat, that the power supply works...
OMG you really are , *, , **....

Food not foid.

@mummmy2017 pretty sure last time I checked we weren't living in a 1980s communist state (I have lived in one so I know what one looks like). The Government does not do all the things you say, the free market does them. If stuff gets in the way of the progress of the free market, it has to correct itself and find new ways of delivering. That "correction " isn't an overnight thing.

You know what I meant.
Pick what say apart for all I care. But it still means we get the things we need when needed...
Scare mongering is being done by Remainers not the leavers.

Who makes sure we get the things we need when needed. My daughter often acts as if food is put on the table, beds are changed, laundry is done, bills are paid etc by the magic elves. I am showing her that this is not the case.
Is that how you see full shops and full petrol stations and fully stocked and staffed hospitals? It just happens by magic?
Maybe do a teeny weeny bit of research before you are so sure.
If we have a soft Brexit it might be bumpy, if we have a hard Brexit/no deal it will be a catastrophe.

Scaremongering eg mentioning problems is being done by businesses, doctors, scientists, civil servants and people who know what they're talking about and are being directly affected.

Your both being increably gullible.
Expecting things to be the worse possible.
This was expected the day after we voted.... Still waiting, while I take a pill. Drink some juice and eat a meal...
Get real, no supermarket is going to be empty.

Is it scaremongering or is it realism - based on the Government's own impact and no-deal reports, based on the industry bodies' statements (having looked at what the Road Haulage Association has said; having looked at what the Food & Drink Federation has said; having looked at what the Pharmaceutical industry has said), based on what the Select Committees have been told (eg it's impossible to build the temperature controlled warehouses that the pharmaceutical industry let alone the food industry would need in order to stockpile 6 weeks of medication that the government has asked for but isn't paying for )?

I prefer to call it forward planning based on realism.

Remainers are gullible?

Oh my word, I’ve heard it all now.

Plenty of professional and industry associations have been warning of the ramifications of Brexit and in particular a No Deal Brexit for months now.

Supermarkets will be empty if JIT deliveries can’t get through.

@mummmy2017 I didn't expect this after the vote. Nor did most Remain voters. I expected a dip in the value of the pound. Which happened.
We are talking about when we actually leave not when we fantasy leave.

...meanwhile, I'll go back to adding a can or two extra to every shop, plus more seeds for my raised beds (some of which I'm going to overwinter in my new second hand greenhouse, so that they are producing by April) and some extra bog roll and kitchen paper. I'm also going to order extra supplies of my daily contact lenses. And we've got plenty of wine but I'll make sure to get in more Irn Bru. That has the advantage of providing plastic bottles which can be filled with water as they get drunk

If the worst doesn't come to pass, they'll get used up anyway

Why are you so hysterical over the food.
Do you really think supermarkets will let it happen.
My oh my mummmy. Maybe you should cast your mind back to the fuel protests of a few years ago, where the country nearly came to a standstill. No fuel, no food deliveries.

Or cast your mind back to a few months ago, if you have forgotten the fuel protests to the time when Kentucky Fried Chicken changed its delivery process and ended up not being able to supply its shops. 100s of their shops had to close while they got it sorted out.

Then let me think, again only a few months ago, when TSB had an IT meltdown, locking people out of their accounts and given other people wrong data.

Same with the drugs, no government would willingly kill it's citizens.
Universal credit and fitness to work tests are doing exactly that.

Maybe I should start a rumour the EU is going to turn the sun off..
By all means do so - it won't be much different from some of the other fictions peddled by Leavers.

I also remember the empty shelves after a couple of days of snow with the Beast from the East.

It wasn't panic buying: the delivery lorries literally couldn't get through with supplies of bread and milk.

This was inner city Glasgow

We actually ate quite well (once we had found some milk ) as we had over-wintered potatoes, frozen peas, a neep and a celeriac, brussels and a frozen pheasant, plus we'd just had a large roast leg of lamb, so had plenty of left overs And with a bit of time (takes 24 hours to get my starter going again) I was able to make some lovely sourdough bread

Mummmy / 10degrees
just in case you were not able to read my question earlier

Will you be happy with a Norway outcome on 29th March?
Yes or no?

Unless the UK government start talking sense to the EU (it is the UK's responsibility to do this, the EU is not the one leaving) the transport of food from anywhere outside the UK will be severely disrupted.
You may have a 'window' of getting your child to school, say 30 minutes. Trucks deliver food from Southern Spain with arrival windows of two or 3 hours and usually manage this with little problem. Unless true frictionless borders are maintained food deliveries can anticipate many hours of delay, meaning food may go off, or supermarket shelves staying empty.
Supermarkets are not the only factor in this, they obviously want to sell stuff, but if it can't get into the UK there is nothing they can do.

At one time I would've thought that just the prospect of a hard border and possibility of return to violence in NI would be enough to stop us leaving the EU, even without all the other hazards now taking shape. How wrong can you be. If it was mentioned at the time of the referendum, I can’t remember. It seems such a huge thing not to mention.

Mentioned all the bloody time on here.

Too get Norway, they and others in the sector would have to agree, and somehow I thought they would have a say... As they said no the last time asked.

Acts of God can't be anticipated, much as you think they can...

And it is possible to modify agreements, it happens all the time, we are doing it with EU right now.

Look I think there is time to plan the food, and don't say it won't be done... As that is not true. I do agree it will effect the prices.

@Sandinyourshoes
It is truly frightening the sheer number of things that MPs seem to have 'glossed over' in the mad rush to exit the EU. In terms of stability of the UK yes the NI 'border' is certainly the worst, but there is so much else that will effect everyday life for the whole of the UK and Europe.
The NI secretary not knowing why 'just putting a border up' to separate NI from Ireland might not be a good idea and that an International treaty practically prohibits it.

Do you really think supermarkets will let it happen.

Blimey, you're right! Because supermarkets hold power over international treaties.

Iirc, someone did try to raise the issue of NI on a QT before the Referendum and Nigel Farage, who was also on the panel of that QT show (yes, I know, doesn't narrow it down much ) interjected, aggressively pointing his finger at the person and shouting, " Don't you dare mention that"

Acts of God can't be anticipated, much as you think they can...

Brexit is not an act of God.

Back to the Q in the OP - I’m afraid of it because we will get the same disastrous result because people hate being wrong, and because it’s easier to blame the disastrous precarious situation we’re in on the EU and its negotiators than to accept responsibility.
That said I’ll take anything than what seems to be on the table at the moment