To ask what people are afraid of with a People's Vote?

[Bearbehind]

Estimates reckon there were nearly a million people at the Peoples Vote march yesterday so support for it is high.

Why is it such a threat to others though?

If you're so convinced Leaving is the right thing to do for the country, why wouldn't you want that to be endorsed now people have a clearer idea of what is to come?

Or is it that you're worried Leave would now lose as it's been made clear there are no upsides?

In which case why do you want to go ahead with it anyway?

I believe it's found that the age people turn to the Conservatives is now rising considerably. At one time they were seen as the party of aspiration - with people now priced out of decent housing, with good quality secure work becoming ever more scarce, and cuts in education and public services biting hard, people are beginning to ask, What are the Tories offering me?

Labour meanwhile, is sitting on the fence.... The amount of splinters they have picked up in their behinds must make it jolly uncomfortable.

Still waiting for that answer 10.

It's just occurred to me! Perhaps you were just flinging rhetoric with no real understanding 

10 tell me it ain't so.

I'm so disappointed in your 10, I feel let down.

If you don't really understand that point perhaps you don't understand how the EU works either...

Moose

As it was in the 1930s so it is now - you are a fanatic and beyond debate

I'm a fanatic?

I'm so liberal the fence is wedged up my arse.

Or are you flinging rhetoric with no understanding? You little rascal you keep on doing it don't you?

So any ideas on the "millions of our forebears" yet?

Any points you want to make about the 1930s though - knock yourself out. I know a bit about it. We could exchange notes.

Thanks all, hip fracture was miss diagnosed which has made matters a lot worse but i want to retire early, so this might be my chance! though thanks to 10 not to SW France Grrrrrrr ......

So he/she can pay for my on-going arthritic hip care over in UK instead lol!

I still haven't seen any post with a tangible economic benefit of leaving. However deriding people who voted for leave as thick, uniformed or duped is not going to get many of those who voted that way to change their minds.

I'm not sure that awareness of the continual lies published by leaders of the vote leave movement (which are all clearly verifiable as false) or the fact that the majority of mainstream media is still supporting Brexit is non dom owned and so Brexit will have little effect on them, will count for anything to Leave voters in the short or long term. It is only the fact of the complete cluster*k that Brexit will be, when it happens is likely to be the big driver for people to change.

No 10, the kind of change where the government looks at stockpiling medicine and chartering ships because it’s completely fucked the economy of the country.

Jasjas

That’s it, come back when you want to take advantage of the nhs. Won’t your eu sort you out?

Just think what fun there will be when MN database gets hacked and all the leaver's names and addresses get revealed.
10degrees still can't manage anything either intelligent or even pleasant.

Why on earth do you think it matters if I am outed as a leaver.
Plus bring it on, will sue and have a nice holiday on mumsnet, maybe close them down, as the Remainers names and info will be revealed at the same time...
Oh my the emotional pain I will feel..
Where I live your going to have to work hard to find someone who voted remain... Tee hee...

It's a weird threat nonetheless.

It's not us random bods on the internet, the people who won't be able to hide are Johnson, Fox, Davis, Rees-Mogg, Redwood and May herself. She will no doubt rue the day that she turned her coat. They will do their best to spin or lie their way out of it.

That’s it, come back when you want to take advantage of the nhs. Won’t your eu sort you out?

ah! a leaver who doesn't read facts, no surprises there!

So, when did i say i was abroad? when i did i say i'd come back here? keep up at the back!

Unfortunately, the sad fact is that i'd have had better treatment in most of Europe compared to our under staffed and under funded NHS, a situation you ve made worse.

{Why on earth do you think it matters if I am outed as a leaver.}
On the basis that there have been a few reports of 'Remainers' having been beaten up by people of a 'leave' persuasion I think tensions will rise somewhat when the scale of Brexit hits the majority that there could be a bit of an issue.
There is so much in the UK that is not being disclosed about the effects that Brexit will bring, much of which is covered by NDAs.

I'm no fanatic. Frankly I don't give one (as my dd would say) if anyone else suffers because of Leave. I voted Remain. I have a buffer of food. I'm entitled to an Irish passport.
I don't expect to change the mind of any BeLeaver on here but I'm not going to say you were right until it's proved by a thriving economy in a year's time.

Oh yeah, and if there are shortages in the shops and people suffer, it's on you. If people lose their jobs because of Brexit, it's on you and, of course, if anyone dies because of the vote - no meds etc. It's on you.

Why are you so hysterical over the food.
Do you really think supermarkets will let it happen.
This is not a shock happening.. You can excuses a lack of marmite. As a plant went down and no one knew till it happened, but this no food in the shops, project fear comes to mind.
Same with the drugs, no government would willingly kill it's citizens.
Maybe I should start a rumour the EU is going to turn the sun off..

www.cips.org/en-GB/supply-management/news/2018/august/brexit-medicine-shortage-worries-unfounded-says-nhs/

The government has passed the responsibility of stockpiling and emergency air freighting of medicines to private companies mummmy. And has threatened NHS trusts not to stockpile in case it increases costs.

www.hsj.co.uk/policy-and-regulation/nhs-told-not-to-stockpile-medication-ahead-of-a-no-deal-brexit/7023208.article

In a letter to the NHS, health and social care secretary Matt Hancock said organisations will be “investigated” for any attempts to pool medications locally.

He said hospitals, GPs and community pharmacies must not “stockpile additional medicines” warning: ”any incidences involving the over ordering of medicines will be investigated and followed up with the relevant chief or responsible pharmacist directly.”

His comments follow fears that local stockpiling could result in a drug prices “shooting up”, as well as generating unnecessary spending by NHS organisations.

The letter also confirmed reports that pharmaceutical suppliers will be asked to stockpile an “additional six weeks supply of medicines in the UK on top of their own normal stock levels”. It said this request is “subject to revision in light of future developments”.

In a separate letter to pharmaceutical companies, Mr Hancock asked suppliers to “ensure they have plans in place to air freight” medicines with a short shelf life.

@mummmy2017 - look at how Just In Time works. Look at where the goods come from next time you are in the supermarket.
Read the technical notices.
If you think that there'll be not even a blip in delivery as we leave, then you are really naive.
If you have kids, are you sure you can have an uninterrupted supply of food as we Leave.

So they have made plans for drugs..
Is that not what we want them to do?

10, the UK was exempted from ‘ever closer union’ in Feb 2016.

I could be wrong but I don't think the UK was exempted in the end Talkstotrees. It was certainly one of the concessions which Cameron won from the EU but as far as I can remember it was to be enacted in a treaty amendment to take place after we'd had a referendum. We voted to leave the EU so the amendment never happened.

@mummmy2017 your absolute faith that The Government will sort everything for you and your family is not very sensible. But hey, that's how you want to roll.