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to think its great that these celebrities are sponsoring coaches to the People's Vote March in London

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HurricaneFloss · 07/10/2018 13:29

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/06/stars-line-up-to-pay-coach-travel-to-brexit-peoples-vote-march

Good on you, Sir Patrick Stewart and Delia Smith!

Not just celebrities - some politicians and business owners, too.

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EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 07/10/2018 17:29

Yes it is

Not sure why they have to publicly announce this

Unfortunately The People’s Vote is disorganized and they have left the process too late why now they have had all this time

And I struggle to support something (though I have) that the front liners mainly voted to trigger Article 50

I find it so fucking hypocritical and is as much to do with them saving their own political career than how they feel about Brexit

10degreestostarboard · 07/10/2018 17:31

Curious 2

Yes, but what is it that you want?

You must know that in the unlikely event of another vote there wouldn’t be a ‘bin brexit’ option. Any political party offering that would be hammered at the polls into oblivion, so it won’t happen.

Riversleep · 07/10/2018 17:34

The Peoples vote has been left far too late. It will be a completely pointless exercise. if people reject the deal, we will crash out with no deal. The Eu will only delay our exit if we are within a hairs breadth of a deal. If we completely reject the deal and have to start the negotiations all over again, as well as most of the country losing the wil to live, the EU will not allow us to delay Brexit. Its all too little too late.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 07/10/2018 17:41

I totally agree Riversleep

I would rather politicians got together working on the best deal possible rather than all these fractions making a political stand

TheFaerieQueene · 07/10/2018 17:42

I think the world has moved on somewhat since the 1970’s.

I think the support for the buses is wonderful. I wish I could be there too, but it is not possible.

Neshoma · 07/10/2018 17:42

Stop with your 'it's a march' thing - we all know everyone wants a question on 'shall we stay in the EU'

10degreestostarboard · 07/10/2018 17:47

Yes I just wish the sponsors of this people’s vote nonsense would be honest about theirs aim to halt Brexit.

Instead they muddy waters with all their ‘vote on the final deal’ rubbish.

Nanny0gg · 07/10/2018 17:50

Politicians are voted in to run the country and make decisions. The decided to hold a referendum. We had a vote. The majority wanted Brexit ( I didn't).

They now need to get on with it and those that lost need to stop stamping their feet and accept the 'People's' decision.

SuburbanRhonda · 07/10/2018 17:53

They now need to get on with it

I believe that’s what they’ve been trying to do, only for some reason it’s turned out to be not quite as simple as they anticipated.

BadLad · 07/10/2018 17:55

What, that the result of an illegal non-binding vote held over two years ago has to be adhered to, no matter what the damage caused may be, and how inept the leave camp have been found to be in the meantime?

Could you expand on what you mean by it was illegal?

JacquesHammer · 07/10/2018 17:55

They now need to get on with it and those that lost need to stop stamping their feet and accept the 'People's' decision

All this fucking idiotic “win/lose” rhetoric.

I voted remain.

Should we leave? Yes - that was the majority vote.

Should we be allowed a final say on how we leave and with what deal? Yes.

I don’t think it’s that unreasonable.

Surely we get a say in how much our future is fucked up.

SusannahL · 07/10/2018 17:58

Bad losers aren't they 10degrees ?

We now have to trust Theresa May when she says she has the country's best interests at heart, and that she will do her very best to get us a good deal.

She doesn't need to be distracted by all this 'people's vote' stupidity.

JacquesHammer · 07/10/2018 17:59

*We now have to trust Theresa May when she says she has the country's best interests at heart, and that she will do her very best to get us a good deal.

She doesn't need to be distracted by all this 'people's vote' stupidity*

Haaaaaaaa Grin

10degreestostarboard · 07/10/2018 18:01

Jacques

Let’s say we have a people’s vote and lets say that vote rejects the current deal.

Then what happens next?

JacquesHammer · 07/10/2018 18:05

*Let’s say we have a people’s vote and lets say that vote rejects the current deal.

Then what happens next?*

The current deal being no deal...?

In all seriousness then more negotiation surely. The EU are fully able to extend the deadline provided a deal is close.

I mean any deal is better than no deal.

Maybe we can use the £120 mill that May suggested we use for “leave parties” in 2020 be put towards a referendum or two Wink

10degreestostarboard · 07/10/2018 18:09

Jacques

Ok then what happens if the deal vote after that is rejected... and the one after that? After all, if we set the precedent that a deal needs a referendum then every deal will need one.

The only thing worse than no deal is the grinding and prolonged limbo your logic would expose the uk to

But it’s not really about the deal is it.

JacquesHammer · 07/10/2018 18:12

The only thing worse than no deal is the grinding and prolonged limbo your logic would expose the uk to

Not really, we’d still be members of the EU UNTIL the chaos is ironed out.

I mean if you think that’s happening by March then great, let’s leave. But forgive me for not being hopeful given the lack of any sort of meaningful plan and direction over the last two years (or indeed ever!)

Riversleep · 07/10/2018 18:13

But if reject the deal, we wont be near a deal. We've had two years to get to this point. How will a couple of months get us any further? We'd have to renegotiate the whole thing, and then what? Another vote on that deal? I voted remain. I wish this whole thing hadn't even started in the first place. But it did and it has.

10degreestostarboard · 07/10/2018 18:16

Jacques

But you are selling intellectual dishonesty because what you are seeking is a scenario whereby Brexit never really happens. How is what you are saying in any way good for the eu economy? How can uk business predict when it is constantly on the cusp of an eu exit?

It’s really cynical behaviour frankly. Why not just be honest and frankly campaign to stop Brexit? Wouldn’t that be more honest and honourable?

SusannahL · 07/10/2018 18:17

Any deal is absolutely NOT better than no deal.

How on earth can you think that ? The deal on offer could be a dreadful one. Don't forget, the EU wants to punish us for having the temerity to vote leave. A lot of other countries are equally as dis-satisfied with how the EU is run.

It will be interesting in the next few years to see how many others jump ship.

SausageOnAFork · 07/10/2018 18:19

We were fine before we joined the Common Market in the early 70s and we will be fine again.

Yes because when I go to the top of the Shard I think ‘I was fine when I was on the ground and if I jump off the top I’ll be fine again’.

10degreestostarboard · 07/10/2018 18:24

An example bad deal: buying a 1k car for 5k

In that context No deal means I can source my car elsewhere...

Jason118 · 07/10/2018 18:26

And with tariffs the car all cost 6k
Hth

Jason118 · 07/10/2018 18:26

*will

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