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To be fucking disgusted **TRIGGER WARNING - CHILD ABUSE** [Edited by MNHQ]

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iLoveSpaDays · 05/10/2018 20:39

Scrolling through the news and came across this.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/annalong-two-week-old-baby-county-down-northern-ireland-hospital-rape-a8570541.html

WTAF!? What the fuck is wrong with people, this is absolutely disgusting how can people do such things?? This breaks my heart so much. Poor innocent helpless babies/children, why, just WHY!

I was watching tv 'this morning' today... a interview came on about a man who had been looking at indecent images. He got a 2 year suspended sentence?? This is indirect ABUSE.. it's still ABUSE whether it's indirect or direct! A suspended sentence is a fucking joke Angry

This kind of crime needs a more severe punishment! Bring back capital punishment for these crimes! There are a lot of monsters in this world Sad

OP posts:
Kjkj16 · 06/10/2018 00:10

Sentences for these crimes are absolutely absurd. You get much lengthier sentences for lesser crimes against adults. Are these children worth less?? It's disgusting and the system needs a complete overhaul concerning this type of crime. Babies and young children are the most vulnerable members of our society and its our job as adults to protect them I do not understand why our legal system treats them with such disregard AngryAngry

HomeMuffin · 06/10/2018 00:23

I don't want some random idiot to attack this many in prison. I want the state to punish him in a way that is appropriate to the crime.

MadMum101 · 06/10/2018 00:50

I can't imagine that this baby won't have life altering injuries (as well as psychological issues) should they survive. Scum should be done for attempted murder too.

NarcolepticOuchMouse · 06/10/2018 00:59

I do wonder if we should consider castration as a means of rehabilitation. How else could they be released back into the community after their 15 year stint and be deemed safe to be around others?

NeepNeepNeep · 06/10/2018 01:04

I pray that tiny baby will recover. Poor little love.

SoaringSwallow · 06/10/2018 03:32

I was abused as a preverbial child (NOT sexually and NOT landing me in hospital) and I have flashbacks to things I can't remember. It's not unusual. In the flashback I don't have an image, sometimes I don't hear anything either, but my body reacts. And I'm terrified when it's happening. I'm having therapy but it's not a short term thing. I know for sure about the ages it happened at because the person actually boasted to me about doing it.

If this baby recovers from her physical injuries - and I haven't opened the article, but that she's in hospital is enough - she is unlikely to be undamaged psychologically. But because her tiny brain and nervous system are so young she won't have any way to convey that.

If these things happened to the children of judges or politicians, or their grandchildren (and they shouldn't happen to anybody), then I find it hard to imagine the sentences would be as ridiculous as they are.

And to the pp who said the women involved too are equally as bad. Well yes and no. The instigator in the vast majority is a man. If all women stopped being involved it would make little difference. If all men stopped there'd be virtually, bar about 0.1%, no sexual crimes left. So the problem does sit with men, if you compare to women.

NeepNeepNeep · 06/10/2018 07:37

I hope he (the baby) will get all the help and resources he needs to recover throughout his life.

Luvly12 · 06/10/2018 08:06

He's in a Northern Irish jail - the paramilitaries have their own wings - I would imagine he'll be got and dealt with when this dies down a bit

BackBoiler · 06/10/2018 08:16

OP a man in our area has just had a two suspended sentence for the same thing. He lives across from my kid's primary school.

LikeIcare · 06/10/2018 08:34

I fucking hate these threads. They upset a huge amount of people and just descend into who can come up with the most violent torture for the perpetrator competition. As if that proves you care more or something.

I can't imagine anyone close to the baby would appreciate the rubbernecking at all.

Glovesick · 06/10/2018 09:02

Death penalty is the only way. Prison costs the tax payer 50k per year and as they have to be relased at some point, they just become expensive to manage by probation and prisonand a conviction makes them even less able to integrate into society, hold down a job, have friends so what else is there to keep them from reoffending?

mrcharlie · 06/10/2018 10:05

OMG, sorry after reading the first paragraph in the link I had to delete and come back here.

No words can describe what I think, I'd happily drag him over to the gutter and slit his throat, the corpse could then be flung onto a landfill site for the rats to feast....sorry Rats!!

Like drugs, until porn is removed off the internet and drug crops eradicated by genetically manmade diseases the world will steadily and irrevocably become worse with each passing year.

Let's hope the 25yr old gets thrown in the worst prison possible.

Pissedoffdotcom · 06/10/2018 10:41

SoaringSwallow at no point was the phrase 'just as bad as' used when i mentioned women facilitating this. That would have been an absolute joke of a phrase because i hope everybody knows the ultimate blame lies with the perpetrator who is categorically nearly always a man. But there are women who make their children available for this shit, & i do feel very strongly that they should receive a much firmer punishment too than either suspended sentence or a few cushty years in a prison.

I promise you now i absolutely never meant these women are as bad as or on par with the sicko men that carry out the acts.

MsHopey · 06/10/2018 11:09

I think you hear about it more than you should.
I had a supervisor when I worked in a supermarket, I had quit and moved to a different place of retail when it was all over Facebook that he'd been arrested and lost his job for having ALOT of indecent images of children on both his personal computer and phone.
He didn't do any time for it at all.
I saw him about 6 months later at my new job doing food shopping with his mom, bloody disgusting, she must have forgave him.
He was like a deer in headlights when he saw me and was probably trying to work out if I knew.
I had to be professional but it was so bloody hard. It was in the local papers.
Also had someone arrested last week in my area, someone I remember seeing with friends years ago but never spoken to, worked in a hospital and again, ALOT of indecent pictures if children, the case is on going but several of his friends are stressing because they allowed him to play with their children before they knew.
They'd known him for over 10 years
No one is really safe.
And they're not giving out harsh enough sentences, possession of these images is still a crime and should be treated as such!

BigChocFrenzy · 06/10/2018 11:12

Those who are convicted of pornography involving children should receive significant sentences

These evil men who rape babies probably don't suddenly wake up with the desire to do so.
There is a path of escalation which leads to ever greater depravity
and always the risk of someone seeking the ultimate depravity and actually doing the crimes that they have previously onle watched online.

It's especilly concerning that some young boys access hardcore porn at a vulnerable age and become hooked before they even reach adulthood

Those minimisers who claim it's "only" pornography, only pictures, are wrong
We haver to roll back the clock on sadistic pornography, make it too dangerous to view and far more difficult for boys to access

and yes, it is about men, who commit 98% of sexual assaults

MsHopey · 06/10/2018 11:13

*sorry, just went and reread the news article.
He was a hospital porter, he was also charged with making indecent images of children, had over 32 of the most serious offence images and there was proof he had deleted many more.
He was given a 3 year community order and 100 hours community service.
So no prison time.

Pissedoffdotcom · 06/10/2018 11:19

MsHopey just reading your post there i'm aghast. My other comment was deleted but a local here was caught with over 10000 images, over 4000 of them were category A in terms of the abuse they showed. He got less by way of punishment than the person you have commented about!

Why the fuck are the rules so higgedly piggedly?! You would think that there would be a blanket sentence once you hit a certain level surely!!! Our justice system baffles me.

MsHopey · 06/10/2018 11:24

Proof they've made images!
I mean, it's absolutely disgusting. Innocent children being exploited and looked at by vile animals.
And both I heard about through Facebook. There was a tiny 2 paragraph section near the back of the local newspaper.
Unless it's as it's disgusting and headline worthy as the OPs you never even hear about it. It makes you wonder how often it happens where it's barely reported and a slap on the wrist from the judges.
I wish more was done as it is a crime that affects the most vulnerable of society and our next generation, and it does seem that most of them seem to get away with it with soft sentences.
I know there's not much room in our prisons, but surely the answer isn't to let cowardly men (people) who pray on young children essentially get away with abusing them!

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 06/10/2018 11:27

Suspended sentences Community service
for such sick abhorrent crimes against children whilÉ™ people are locked up because they can't pay their council tax and people wonder why there are vigilaties

Pissedoffdotcom · 06/10/2018 11:30

Locally to us, this pervert got his 9 months suspended sentence for 2 years, kept his job, his family.

In the next village over a woman got into a brawl with another woman after drinking. She attacked her & put her in hospital BUT no lifelong physical damage. The attacker got eight years in prison.

straightjeans · 06/10/2018 11:38

Looking at indecent images is not ''indirect abuse' it's abuse full stop. By downloading and looking at the images they are directly contributing to the abuse of children.

RepealtheGRA · 06/10/2018 11:41

I think chemical castration could be helpful to people who are caught with images.

Eliza9917 · 06/10/2018 11:42

I saw this yesterday, I keep thinking of it and wanting to cry.

There just no words.

SnorkFavour · 06/10/2018 11:43

What I never understand is we make a very basic mistake in classifying these people as criminals. They're SICK and need to be treated as such, they'll never ever get better and I just don't understand why we don't just surgically castrate them. I understand that people have rights to their own body parts but you could say we have a right to be free as well and so never imprison anyone.

The children in this world also have a right to live without being interfered with and I think their rights trump the right of the sick person to bodily integrity.

It would be a cheap, easy and extremely effective way to deal with the problem permanently.

DwangelaForever · 06/10/2018 11:44

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