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To think that if your thread is about a feminist issue you should post on the feminist board

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Shallishanti123 · 27/09/2018 12:52

Just that really. Too many feminist board type threads disguised as AIBUs, but really wanting to bash trans or whoever they feel like hating on right now.

Let’s just all be who we are and lead a happy life.

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Babdoc · 27/09/2018 13:06

Are you saying that you are a woman but not a feminist?
How on earth does that work?
Which of your hard won rights, that feminists achieved for you, would you like to hand back? The vote? Equal pay? Maternity leave? Freedom from marital rape? Abortion, contraception, women’s refuges?
And would you like us to stop campaigning to keep people with penises out of women’s private spaces? Defending women’s safety, privacy and dignity is not “hating”.

JaneR0chester · 27/09/2018 13:06

Yes, YABU.

Feminists argue and fight for the rights of women, Mumsnet (clue is in the name) is predominantly used by and focused on women. I see no contradiction that such a site, even AIBU, should include threads and opinions about feminist issues.

I've not seen any "trans bashing", just lots of people angry and wanting to stand up for women's rights.

Shallishanti123 · 27/09/2018 13:07

What the heck is namalt? Men abuse women. Women abuse men. People abuse people.

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FedUpWithBriiiiiick · 27/09/2018 13:07

Women! Know your place!

ADastardlyThing · 27/09/2018 13:07

It is an odd request though op. Aibu means "am I being unreasonable" which can be applied to almost any topic or experience, so by definition threads regarding women's issues absolutely have a place in aibu if the author is asking if they are in fact being u.

EvePolastri · 27/09/2018 13:07

The AIBU below this a few minutes ago was regarding Christmas presents..... is it alright with you that it wasn't in the Xmas topic op?

otterturk · 27/09/2018 13:08

Well women don't have penises so why would there be beaker confusion?

sexnotgender · 27/09/2018 13:09

NAMALT = not all men are like that.

Yes women abuse men but the OVERWHELMING majority of abuse is men against women.

LagerthaTheShieldMaiden · 27/09/2018 13:09

Whatever happened to live and let live, accepting each other as individuals and, you know, a little bit of kindness?

Why don't you go and pose that question to the TRAs? The ones who belittle and insult and threaten women. Ask them why they can't be more accepting of women, and tell them to be kinder. Let us know how you get on.

TeenTimesTwo · 27/09/2018 13:10

just because someone has a penis doesn’t mean they’re a risk

of course it doesn't.

but for various reasons (privacy and dignity as well as safety) Safeguarding 101 segregates by sex in places where people may be more vulnerable such as school trips, scout camps, toilets, prisons.

When Girl Guides unilaterally does away with this and doesn't even permit informed consent by the parents, that is a massive issue.

When prisons do away with sex segregation then you get problems such have been recently reported.

You may not have an issue with single sex areas being removed, but many people do. With Girl Guides they didn't even want to inform the parents of the children that GG was no long single-sex. Which is outrageous.

SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 27/09/2018 13:10

You surely get that more women are abused by men than the other way round? You can't be that stupid!

Shallishanti123 · 27/09/2018 13:10

No eve, that’s fine. I don’t feel like that’s been dressed up to infiltrate the AIBU posters and raise awareness of Santa.

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MissusGeneHunt · 27/09/2018 13:10

YABU.

There's no transphobia on any recent thread, and if there is, MNHQ jump on it and delete it, same with racism.

What I've read are posts stating it's a concern that womens' and girls' rights are being eroded. 'Concern' being an understatement. No-one is suggesting all trans people are trans so they can attack. What is being stated is 'what on earth happened to safe spaces', and that safety can mean both physical and mental safety.

If you don't want to read a thread, don't read it.

PilarTernera · 27/09/2018 13:11

YABU people post about all kinds of stuff on AIBU. I am not interested in most of it. A lot of people on here have views that I disagree with. If I am not interested in a thread, I stop reading it and move on to something else.

ClothOnASloth · 27/09/2018 13:11

"an outbreak of terror"

Discussing Girl Guides is now classed as "an outbreak of terror"?

Seriously?

moredoll · 27/09/2018 13:12

YABU.
Even if you don't agree with them, feminist views on any subject shouldn't be hidden away in their own dark corner.

Whizbang · 27/09/2018 13:13

YABVU OP.

I have learnt so much from discussions of this topic in AIBU and have been made aware of issues that concern me greatly that are never discussed in mainstream media.

As far as I’m concerned, trying to hide the discussions and concerns about the impact on women in a more specialist and less frequented area of the site is just another attempt to silence our voices.

Whizbang · 27/09/2018 13:13

Snap moredoll!

TimIsHavingABadDay · 27/09/2018 13:13

@EvePolastri

Given that christmas is about celebrating Christs birth im going to say its ok for the OP to look at and to be in AIBU. After all, Mary wasn't ASKED if she wanted to bear Gods baby. So no feminist rights there, she just got ghost impregnated and had to have the kid. Right up the OPs street with minimal womens rights to worry about.

Shallishanti123 · 27/09/2018 13:15

It’s not just girl guides though. That’s a legitimate concern.

It’s the fear that the person next to you in dotty p’s changing room may have a penis etc. Don’t you think that person has a hard enough life as it is?

Someone on another thread said young trans people read mumsnet and get upset about what’s said about the issues. That makes me sad. To think a young person who is struggling is being made to feel worse. Surely we can help them somehow?

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BanananananaDaiquiri · 27/09/2018 13:16

NAMALT = not all men are like that. Often shortened to #notallmen. The inevitable response when any kind of discussion centred on male violence towards women takes place. Some MRA (men's rights activist) or woman with internalised misogyny will invariably pop up 'notallmenning', as if we didn't already know it's NAM but they seem to miss the point that we don't know which men it is until it's too late.

Shallishanti123 · 27/09/2018 13:17

Tim, don’t get me started on that outdated horror story shit.

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bigKiteFlying · 27/09/2018 13:17

YABVVU.

Current GG saga s a parenting issue.

This is a site aimed at parents.

I suggest you report any hate speach you see posted- and let MN deal with it.

Shallishanti123 · 27/09/2018 13:17

Banana, that’s true. It is often too late. I never suspected my ex to be a rapist, unfortunately for me he was. I don’t think he event suspected it himself until he did it.

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Dychmygol · 27/09/2018 13:19

YABU arguably every post on Mumsnet is a feminist issue because the site was created to provide a space for mothers aka women to get advice, support, get things off their chest, muse about stuff and to talk about politics etc if desired. If you're a woman then feminism affects you whether you class yourself as feminist or not.

Naturally being an inclusive space men, women without children, people navigating the tricky transition journey are all welcome to utilise this resource too.

To say that women or men who are feminists may only speak in a designated part of the site is censorship. If there's something happening they think is unreasonable they are just as welcome to post in AIBU for opinions as some vacuous poser asking if they were unreasonable to send Tarquin to school with hummus and shock horror an apple to school for a snack.

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