To think a second Brexit referendum will not happen

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I am a remainer, but people campaigning for a second Referendum are wasting their time. It is not going to happen.

"The question was asked and the majority said let's leave so let's leave.

It's not a democratic vote otherwise.

Plus, who on earth wants to be part of a group who want a) all your money and then b) take away all your rights ????"

Anyone screenshotting these gems? Here's a classic.

For those who mention the negatives regarding the potential to rejoin the EU, we seem to be missing the point that we now have no credibility within the EU anyway.

We will be punished if we stay as much as we will be punished if we leave. The PM will be standing in the corner with a D hat for the foreseeable future.

If we had decided half way through the Battle of Britain, to give up, how do you think that we would be positioned now?

Democracy is not without pain, we need to get our heads down and make it work, Brexit is going to happen.

What the actual fuck does the Battle of Britain have to do with it?

Absolutely AdamHi

Brexiteers need to get tougher & organise marches & demonstrations if this treachery carries on.

I don’t get this whole “ no second referendum - the people voted, end of” well guess who would be voting in the second one... the people!

Isn’t anyone else just slightly looking forward to seeing all the people who wanted the borders “closed up”
And “get them out” etc not getting what they want?! I have read so many people saying they are sick of being the only white person around. Well news for ya luv... those people come from countries outside the EU. Your twatty vote isn’t going to change that!!!!

@LuckyAmy1986 - I admit that a tiny bit of me (getting a bit bigger every day)wants to see some tossers suffer.

Lucky everyone knows that a vote for leave was a vote for something that had nothing to do with getting rid of foreigners, except those that voted to get rid of foreigners, but they are only a teensy tiny portion of the will of the people so their will doesn't count

We are LEAVING the EU in March. A referendum or election will never happen before the end March 2019. A second ref would cause chaos and riots in the streets. Apart from being unnecessary it would solve absolutely nothing and if remain won? Would we be any less divided? How is that more legitimate than leave winning last time? We have to abide by the vote which was taken, the largest ever plebiscite with the highest turnout ever - even higher than general elections. To say it was not legitimate is lunacy. Can’t you see we are being played now by the Eu. Their behaviour is despicable. We should just walk away with no deal and not pay any divorce bill.

We are leaving and we will all suffer. Being smug will keep me a little warmer and will help me better fed. But not much.
Hope all of us in here are planning for empty supermarket shelves no matter how gobby we are one way or the other.
A single whine on here about not being able to get stuff you expect in the shops will be greeted by derision.

Walkingdeadfangirl will you stop with the "that's democracy" nonsense when you clearly have no idea what the term means!

Democracy isn't just one thing. Democracy doesn't mean - how you think it's done in the U.K.. Democracy is an umbrella term for a variety of options.

In most democratic system people changing their mind is allowed for and taken into consideration. To say it has happened we can't change our mind is very anti democratic. The U.K. system allows for total reversal of policy by a simple majority in Parliament. This called parliamentary sovereignty - most Brexit supporters like parliamentary sovereignty - in theory anyway.

The questions in a referendum are decided by parliament and there will be judicial oversight - it will be both democratic and legal. Your opinion on what you think is democratic is (in my opinion) wrong and in many ways irrelevant. Parliament is sovereign.

We use whatever electoral system parliament decides. In the U.K. we use a variety of electoral systems including AV, STV and FPTP.

Finally, you do seem to believe that you saying something makes it true. A new referendum is very much on the cards and using capitals for a NOT in 'not going to happen' does not make it true.

I hope the vocal Leavers will be the first ones on the redundancy list when the job cuts happen. We have a few of them at work.

The only thing that concerns me is that when things don’t go the way some of the leavers wanted, will there be riots?

5Yearplan4000
They’ll do their best to stop it, the 52% need to take to the streets now IMO, we’ve been too quiet for too long, I suppose in the believe that the vote actually meant something, but we’ve seen it before, making the plebs vote again until the elite get what they want.

Mousse don't be telling leavers Parliament is sovereign, that's their go to reason for leaving. Sovereignty.

That’s what the thread is about......

It’s only 2 years since the last referendum

The Tories ran for election in 2015 on basis that they would have a referendum and won that election- you could say they was a referendum.

Both major parties ran on a brexit pledge in the last election (only a year ago) and swept up most of the seats. The third party - who had experience of governement before and ran on a “Cancel Brexit ” platform performed incredibly badly. There was no rush to them or appetite to stop brexit.

You can’t keep flying in the face of what people have voted for just so you get what you want by twisting and turning.

It’s no surprise that the arch twister and turner Blair is back on the scene along with his fellow travellers.

Brexit is happening like it or not. You may get the chance to go back into European Union if it’s so great in a couple of decades. Personally I doubt we will ever rejoin.

Those panicking about food and medicine shortages need to grow up - it’s totally made up - and need to support their country and make Brexit a success.

The EU isn’t some benevolent mother we need for support.

some people on here have Stockholm Syndrome with regards to the EU and it’s totally corrupt, undemocratic, wasteful ways. It hasn’t even had its own financial accounts signed off by auditors for 20 years and won’t even release expense details of MEP’s.

People are barking mad if they think this rotten organisation is something we want to be part of.

As has been pointed out many times BJ, JRM and that tossed Farage actually are the elite.

And where have you seen it before 'make the plebs vote' until the elite get what they want? Elites tend to do the opposite and stop with the voting.

Lucky can't see my parents being up for civil unrest, moaning down the pub certainly, lobbing Molotov cocktails down the village high street , nah

Pleas explain why you believe the EU is undemocratic.

It isn't btw as has been explained in great depth by myself and others. Although, unlike leavers if you ask the questions I will reply - again. However, it will be later in the day.

5yearplan honest question here , who do you believe, when it comes to Brexit ? By that I mean where do you get your information regarding Brexit from ?

Not all frumpety but some will I bet.

the 52% need to take to the streets now IMO, we’ve been too quiet for too long

Leavers I know are quiet because they're embarrassed, apart from the racists, they're all still frothing about immigrants. I do really, really love telling them that their vote means more immigrants from Africa and Asia, it's the only good Brexit news as far as I'm concerned.

I feel my identity is European so I'll never be happy about leaving

You're not leaving the continent

Lucky can't see my parents being up for civil unrest

Actually I think we will have riots if Brexit is cancelled. BNP, Britain First, EDL, NF, that football supporters racist group, they'll all be out on the streets targgeting any immigrants they can see.

We will also have riots if there is a hard Brexit and there are food and essentials supply problems.