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To only pay for vegan food at my wedding?

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ClaraBanana7 · 21/09/2018 14:52

Haven't set a date yet, but it'll be in around 2 years so it's not right around the corner or anything, but DP and I are both vegans. Neither of us have a problem with other people eating animal products, I don't think I've ever even brought up veganism unless I'm at a restaurant and need to order because I really hate confrontation and I've seen/heard so many cruel and horrible things being said to vegans. That said, we don't want to pay for the guests to be served animal products at our wedding.
Some of my friends think it's unfair and that restaurants etc are pandering to the vegan 'fad' (even though I've been vegan all my life) so I should cater to everyone's dietary requirements. I told them I was considering putting a meat option on the catering form, but that whoever picked it would have to pay for it themselves as I really don't want to give my own money towards that industry. But, my friends also think it's unfair that some people have to pay and others don't.
DP doesn't want to have an animal product option at all, and tbh I would also prefer this, but I want a way of not isolating people who can't go a meal without eating animal products.

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SalemBlackCat · 22/09/2018 14:36

JohnDoe10, oh yes, I suppose you are another one of those who have fallen for the fake videos created by those like PETA. Videos that are created and edited for naive and gullible people who genuinely fall for the propaganda. Thankfully, I am not that gullible I actually believe those er 'videos'.

SalemBlackCat · 22/09/2018 14:37

CheeseTheDay I never said they 'make statements on a whim', but that they do not represent the VIEW of EVERY....SINGLE.....DIETICIAN registered with them. Is that clearer?

Jeippinghmip · 22/09/2018 14:39

The point is, a good host should cater for her guests

Can’t argue with that! The really crucial thing is to provide tasty well cooked food and that could be vegan, vegetarian, meat based etc. It’s getting the caterers right that matters, if you want to be a good host!

SalemBlackCat · 22/09/2018 14:39

CheeseTheDay, doctors go to university for a minimum of 6 years. And they do not just study nutrition, but the AFFECTS it has on every organ of the body. A Dietician is not a Doctor. A doctor knows and understands more about the affect of food on our organs and skeletal system. Imma trust them than a.....Dietician.

RockinHippy · 22/09/2018 14:40

Genuinely interested to know why? Was you eating a balanced diet ?

Seriously? Why would you need to ask that question? It would be obvious. Eating a dangerous and restrictive diet is not healthy. It isn't rocket science. Shrugs

Sorry Salem, but that is very judgey & no more rocket science than this posters question.

Unfortunately you are right to a degree as B12 isn't found in any vegan foods, that is unless you also grow all your own veg where you could get enough from soil deposits. For everything else though, you pretty much miss nothing nutritious by eating vegan & I know plenty who are much healthier on it.

B12 deficiency is serious & on that point unless a vegan has a big year round veg plot too, or are supplementing plenty of B12, then you are right, it isn't a healthy way to eat. Most vegans are pretty educated with food though, so it's unlikely to be an issue.

ClaryFray · 22/09/2018 14:44

Just have a vegan wedding, no one will say anything. Or have a veggie option.

I'm going vegan, and my friend is she had a veggie option for those who didn't want full vegan food.

RockinHippy · 22/09/2018 14:44

Erm, not sure why Salem, when in that 6 years doctors study no more than 4 hours on ALL vitamins & mineralsConfused those that know more do so because of extra courses, such as the Vitamin D one available to GPs, or a special interest in nutrition.

Bluelady · 22/09/2018 14:44

Half the things on that list are easily home made. Many of the othere are abhorred by vegans, my son wouldn't eat soya if you paid him.

This is one of the most bonkers threads I've ever read. Why do people get so fucking incensed by other people's food choices?

TooManyPaws · 22/09/2018 14:48

Meat eaters can eat vegan food, vegans can't eat animal products in line with their beliefs. Providing a vegan menu means that everyone can eat.

Provide a vegan menu which anyone can eat; in that way, you are catering to all needs. Be aware of intolerances though; there are plant-based foods that will give me an extremely painful time, such as avocado, so be willing to take that into account for individuals.

Frankly, there is no reason why you should provide animal products to your guests. You are providing food that they can eat. If anyone is precious and self-centered enough to demand to eat meat or other animal products, then they are extremely rude and should get over themselves. They will not die from a single or even two meals without animal products. Would they demand that a Jewish or Muslim wedding provide them with pork as that's the only meat they eat?

If people say that they would not attend if you didn't provide meat, then these are people that you really don't need in your life. Who in the world would want to mix with such selfish, self-centered, ignorant, rude wastes of space and food? Be thankful that they have taken themselves out of your life. Those saying that on this thread have really shown themselves up. Anyone who attends your wedding should be there for your happiness.

I'm not a vegan but eat 90% veggie with occasional fish. The number of times that I have seen vegetarian or vegan options been eaten by meat-eaters because they think it is nicer than the meat dish, thus selfishly leaving others without food, is incredible. Many people have shared similar experiences on MN. I have taken vegetarian or vegan dishes to a shared meal without people immediately realising that there is no meat until they have thoroughly enjoyed it.

Pay no attention to the selfishness of others and provide a vegan feast that can be eaten by anyone, taking only allergies and intolerances into account. Congratulations and enjoy your wedding when it comes.

Myusernameisunique · 22/09/2018 14:48

Haven't read the whole thread but OP it's your wedding. You want vegan food only served then you have vegan food only served. I really don't understand why people can be put out by choices others make for their own wedding. It's their day surely and your there to celebrate that with them in their way!

cheeseslovesme · 22/09/2018 14:49

I'm a meat eater, but would happily eat vegan food. Its your wedding day and your choice. Just do a full vegan menu. Most of your guests should know that you both are vegans, so it should not be a surprise that there's no meat on the menu. Enjoy planning your day. Smile

SalemBlackCat · 22/09/2018 14:50

I think the issue here is that people - rightly or wrongly - see vegans having vegan-only weddings as an example of someone pushing their agenda down people's throats (pardon the pun). Eating meat is the default, so there is no pushing a political agenda as there is with veganism. Whilst vegans have strong beliefs for their position, so to do status quo'ers (as someone elsewhere described as as). The difference is, a non-vegan will not restrict a person from eating veggies only. A vegan is making a choice for others and forcing their views on us. This follows the often militant anti-meat/throwing flour/staging protests stunts that those who are vegan (and who always tell everyone they're vegan ie How do you know someone is vegan? They TELL YOU) are known for. The vegan food only stance follows the other militant behaviour they are known for. So, in that light, it is hard to see their choice for a vegan-only wedding without seeing it in that political/aggitator/militant prism. It is hard not to take it that way.

SalemBlackCat · 22/09/2018 14:52

Erm, not sure why Salem, when in that 6 years doctors study no more than 4 hours on ALL vitamins & minerals If you seriously believe that; that they study no more than 4 hours on vitamins and minerals, then, I have no words. I don't know what to say to you. What a load of rubbish, that it appears you made up on the spot. Confused

kenandbarbie · 22/09/2018 14:53

Hard for you Salem. I would just think mmmm chick pea curry and be delighted to try something different.

BrownPaperTeddy · 22/09/2018 14:56

I would just think mmmm chick pea curry and be delighted to try something different.

Meanwhile I'd be thinking oh god the pain I'll be in within about 10 minutes of eating that. I wonder where the nearest toilet will be and if anyone will mind me being in there for the next 2 hours?

kenandbarbie · 22/09/2018 14:57

Coz obviously they're not going to check any food allergies or intolerances first.

Bluelady · 22/09/2018 14:57

Jeez, Salem, it's food, ffs. Not a bloody militant political statement.

overagain · 22/09/2018 14:59

Bluelady you asked for examples and were given them. I know loads of vegans, j enjoy vegan food (though struggle with some of it due to my own allergies) most are overweight. They eat large quantities of fat (coconut milk and avocado oils) and carbs. Most unprocessed but still high in calories. One friend recently lost 4 stone on slimming world and then went vegan, she's gained more than 2 back, she values the vegan diet more than her weight loss though which is fair enough.

One vegan I know owns a cake shop. She makes all sorts of delicious vegan cakes but most are processed, contain loads of sugar and she is overweight.

Being vegan doesn't automatically make you healthy, just like being a meat eater doesn't mean you stuff your face with Gregg's all the time, it's personal.

BrownPaperTeddy · 22/09/2018 14:59

No idea and I don't know what vegan food consists of. But a lot of things listed here a high on the lists of allergens and foods to avoid on exclusion diets - so nuts, gluten,soy, onion

Is it possible to have vegan food and exclude these?

Johndoe10 · 22/09/2018 15:00

That could apply to literally anything.

JacquesHammer · 22/09/2018 15:00

also add that I have read of vegan weddings before where the guests had to go out and get McDonalds or something from a takeaway place because the wedding meal was inedible and not enough of it.

That’s happened once to me. It wasn’t a vegan-wedding. Unfortunately the venue messed up and didn’t take my allergy into account.

Do you think I showed an appalling lack of manners and moaned? Or quietly after the meal popped to the nearest shop and grabbed something to eat?

No big deal

OP - go full on Vegan.

I’m aghast people are moaning they can’t manage without meat. It’s quite pathetic really.

Johndoe10 · 22/09/2018 15:01

brown yes. But again that would apply to any meal.

Ignoramusgiganticus · 22/09/2018 15:02

Personally I wouldn't mind, but given that some friends are already saying they won't come etc, you've got to be prepared for the fact that they will probably leave at some point to find meat. If you are ok with that then go for it.

MrsG010814 · 22/09/2018 15:04

Op how would you feel if you were invited to a wedding and only meat meals were served? It's the same thing. You should cater for everyone just as I'm sure you would expect to be catered for. To expect the people who eat meat to pay for themselves is ludicrous.

BrownPaperTeddy · 22/09/2018 15:04

brown yes. But again that would apply to any meal.

I get that and I'm nit vegan so don't know what a vegan meal would look like.

From my own experience I know that the more foods you eliminate the more difficult it becomes so given that with a vegan diet you've already eliminated all animal sources if you then add in some allergens too does it leave you with anything resembling a meal?

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