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To still be annoyed that Hermione married Ron?

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ThomasRichard · 08/09/2018 21:48

I know, the last book came out years ago, but I’m re-reading them now with DS and it’s got me annoyed all over again. He’s a mediocre, sulky man-child, while she’s a brilliantly talented witch. Why would she ever marry him?!

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SantaClauseMightWork · 08/09/2018 23:18

She is enough on her own. I find that very refreshing, no need to be part of a power couple.

Amanduh · 08/09/2018 23:18

(Without the he...)

SantaClauseMightWork · 08/09/2018 23:18

^This.

Amanduh · 08/09/2018 23:21

Also ewwwww at her settling for her bully who tried to kill her and his no 1 enemy parents 🤢🤢🤢🤢

toffee1000 · 08/09/2018 23:22

Ron is not stupid.
OP you have it wrong, Ron didn't get any Outstandings. That's the top grade. So I'm assuming he probably did get some Exceeding Expectations; that's how he was allowed into Potions NEWT actually, Slughorn said he was fine accepting students with Exceeding Expectations onto the course, whereas Snape only accepted those with Outstanding. I also assume he got EE in Transfiguration because I think Neville was told he wouldn't cope with the Transfiguration NEWT (he only got an Acceptable). Actually I think the minimum grade for the NEWT classes was E.E.

sophisticatedsarcasm · 08/09/2018 23:24

Omg I loved Ron..... I was al2ays a Ron Hermione ship..... i guess you either love him or hate him. Although I figure it took him long enough to realise Hermione was in love with him 😂

FormerlyFrikadela01 · 08/09/2018 23:25

I don’t get this, Ron might not be academic but he’s definitely intelligent. My DH and I are very similar to Hermione & Ron. On paper we have little in common but in practice we’re brilliant together. He was hopeless at school and failed everything, I loved it, sailed through A levels and have a degree. But our values and interests are the same, I could search for a lifetime and not find a man as great as him and that’s what counts for love. So I see Hermione & Ron together for the long haul, happy and in love.

This is also very much me and dp. I don't need to be challenged intellectually by him because I have friends and work colleagues that do that. I need someone who is loving and caring and patient when I'm being an insufferable know it all, very much like Hermione.

I believe in their marriage more than Harry and Ginny. Mainly because I find Harry incredibly annoying and big headed at times and I don't believe Book Ginny would put up with his shit.

Marcipex · 08/09/2018 23:26

JK , if you want to rewrite the ending, I'm prepared to overlook the Ron/Hermione fiasco.

TheSeasonOfTheWitch · 08/09/2018 23:26

I imagine when you go through the process of saving humanity type trauma, then no.... I'm sure you would just move on. It would be deeply rooted and take presidency of the majority of life's piffle, frankly. The things they experience in the book are monumental from the self to world order, that things like 'challenging husband' or 'excitement' later in life just might not matter, it's just froth compared to the big stuff....?

That's my impression anyway from relationships that have survived major trauma in war for example.

My grandparents lived through horrific WW2 experiences, and were utterly thrilled to have a stable healthy life. The idea that might be boring simply appalled them. Boring is perhaps a luxury of a nice life?

Crunchymum · 08/09/2018 23:27

I ripped the last chapter out of the book Grin

IAmWhoYouSayIAm · 08/09/2018 23:27

This clip is good from a documentary with JKR.

Sorry to break it to you all but Luna doesn’t end up with Neville

FannyOutOfTheFarawayTree · 08/09/2018 23:28

An important thing to note is that the Rin in the films is an oaf, whereas Ron from the books is an intelligent strategist and loyal, with a flaw of jealousy rather than stupidity like movie Ron.

Pringlecat · 08/09/2018 23:29

@Crunchymum "And all was well." Ignore the epilogue and the books are so much better! I'm with you on that.

toffee1000 · 08/09/2018 23:30

Plus the grades mean nothing. Fred and George got three OWLs each, because they didn't work very hard. (It didn't matter for them, though, as they had their business that turned into a real money-maker). That was also Harry and Ron's issue, they just didn't work very much/they weren't like Hermione. They always did well in exams though. I think that's mentioned in Order of the Phoenix when Harry's wondering about why Ron got made prefect over him.

Yes Ron was moany and grumpy but I think he suffered a serious lack of confidence. All his siblings had been Quidditch Captains or Head Boys, well Fred and George weren't but they were popular and still intelligent and had their thriving business. He had a lot to live up to, and even if he did achieve something it was nothing special because his brothers had done it first. I'm not saying lack of confidence is an excuse for being grumpy and rather rude, but it can seriously affect you. Him ditching Harry in Goblet of Fire and the Horcrux hunt in Deathly Hallows was pretty crap of him, but I kind of understand why.

Oh well, we all like different people. I wouldn't ever ship Dramione but I can kind of understand why people would, but Snape and Hermione I could never ever get behind.

TheSeasonOfTheWitch · 08/09/2018 23:31

@FannyOutOfTheFarawayTree
Yes very true, Ron is so much better in the books.

TheSeasonOfTheWitch · 08/09/2018 23:32

*wouldn't just move on!! Not would just move on...

SantaClauseMightWork · 08/09/2018 23:36

What we all tend to forget that both Ron and Hermoine live in a magical world. I can't imagine them worrying about the mundane things in life that seem small but cause resentment over time.

Icantreachthepretzels · 08/09/2018 23:39

Right, because someone pretending to be a Death Eater should say nice things to an upset muggle-born Gryffindor? He was a double agent. He had to do all kinds of upsetting unpleasant things that I'm sure he regretted.

This happened before the first event in the Tri-wizard tournament ... before Voldemort was back. He was not a double agent at that point.
Even if he was (which he isn't) - his double agent role and his 'teacher role' are not the same thing. A group of 14 year olds waiting to go into Potions are not looking to out him to the Dark Lord.
And - once he is a double agent - he is actually a triple agent. Voldemort believes he is spying on Dumbledore. So - in his context of pretending to be a death eater pretending to be a loyal teacher - yes he could have afforded to be slightly more professional with the Gryffindor students.

However he was no kind of agent at that point - he was literally just the potions teacher. He was being a dick because he was a dick - not for higher and noble reasons.

But most importantly - no he did not 'have to say anything nice'. He looks at the also cursed Goyle (maybe Crabbe) and just says 'go to the hospital wing.' No sympathy, no 'there there' - just sends him off to be treated. Which is perfectly acceptable, he is a potions teacher - not Goyle's mum.
But that is what he should have done to Hermione, as well. Instead he looked at her growing teeth and said 'I see no difference' - referencing that her normal teeth are overlarge (teacher making personal comments on a student's appearance - big no no), humiliating her in front of her classmates, and not performing his duty as a teacher to make sure an injured student gets adequate medical attention.

It is a deliberate choice to be cruel (in public!) for no other reason than his character is that of a vindictive bully.
The age difference would not be too big once Hermione was sufficiently grown up - but even in that last book - it doesn't matter that they're going to live to be 150 - 18 and 38 is too big an age gap.
And to just ram a marriage to Snape into the epilogue - after how badly he had treated them since way before he was a double agent - would have caused reader whiplash.
And it is never OK - in any world - for a teacher to marry their student. The power dynamic is too weighted in favour of the teacher (as would also be the problem with their age difference in Deathly Hallows.)

But mostly, it is the reason that Snape has been horrible to her and her friends - for no reason - for six years, which is why she shouldn't marry him. There's a big difference between recognising someone isn't evil through and through ... and marrying them.

Thomasrichardsmum · 08/09/2018 23:40

@thomasrichard while you're here I have to ask - what does your name mean? I have one at home and now worrying it is someone famous/notorious?

Iused2BanOptimist · 08/09/2018 23:42

crunchymum ShockGrinThanks

toffee1000 · 08/09/2018 23:44

Plus Snape was nasty to everybody who wasn't a Slytherin, even before Harry et al started school, constantly taking points off people. He was so horrible to Neville that Snape became Neville's Boggart... the thing he feared most. Yes Neville could've been the Chosen One rather than Harry (Neville's birthday is a day earlier), but that is no excuse to be nasty to a student.

Oh, he was a double agent/Death Eater so he had to bully students? No. Not buying that. There is NEVER an excuse to bully students, EVER.

shakeyourcaboose · 08/09/2018 23:44

@jenfromtheglen oh yes!

RoseGirlsInAVase · 08/09/2018 23:47

Icantreachthepretzels Harry Potter is fiction .. you do know that right?

BuntyII · 08/09/2018 23:50

Remember the beautiful scene in one of the films where Harry and Hermione are dancing in the tent? I really wanted them to get together at that point. Harry was well up for it too.

BonnieF · 08/09/2018 23:50

The casting of the films compounded the lack of credibility of Hermione marrying Ron. The idea that Rupert Grint’s Ron would ever have a chance with the gorgeous Emma Watson’s Hermione was preposterous. She should have married Draco.

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