To still be annoyed that Hermione married Ron?

[ThomasRichard]

I know, the last book came out years ago, but I’m re-reading them now with DS and it’s got me annoyed all over again. He’s a mediocre, sulky man-child, while she’s a brilliantly talented witch. Why would she ever marry him?!

Also regarding certain things being left to interpretation... there was the bit where they talk about the 2 muggle boys and Dumbledores sister, doing something that left her traumatised. I think that could possibly be interpreted by adult readers as sexual abuse but probably wouldn’t occur to the younger readers

I was going to mention the chess game Miyah. I don't agree that Ron isn't brave. He puts himself on the line repeatedly even though he doesn't have Harry's powers or protection, or Hermione's brains.

😂 Quim

You can read it the way you want to. I want to imagine that they only dragged her off and imprisoned her in a cage until Dumbledore came to take her off, but the motif of a screaming woman being carried off by a group of male centaurs is a tad evocative.

Doesn't mean for certain it did, to be fair, but.
Traditional vampire mythology isn't touched on much in the HP universe, either, but if at any point the latest Defense against the Dark Arts teacher had been a young handsome man who held lots of private one-on-one revision sessions with NEWT students after hours, who was later unmasked as an unregistered vampire... Well, I think everyone who's ever watched a Dracula film would make inferences about the nature of the revision sessions earlier on in the book!

Miyah he spends rather a lot of the time crying in terror. Understandable when you're 11, not so much when you're 17.

In the circumstances they were in crying was understandable! The point was he was there. For most of the dangerous endeavours. That WAS brave.

JamieVardy - JKR DOES hunt at the sexual reputation of vampires though, when that famous author brings the vampire to Slughorns party and he keeps edging away towards the young women at the party.

But there isn’t even a hint of anything sexual towards there centaurs in the books. I think it’s a massive stretch, not based on any binting by JKR, but rather people going to extreme lengths to either prove their own knowledge of sexuality within the classics, or people with a weird fetish

Binting? Binting!

Hinting! What’s going on with you, autocorrect 😂

I love Hermione she's my favourite of the trio but as a character, she has just as many flaws as Ron IMO.

She is judgemental, overly critical, insecure, smug, possessive and Snape was correct when he called her an insufferable know it all.

I don't think she could be in a relationship with her "equal" because her self-esteem would suffer greatly if she wasn't "The smart one".

Ron brings out the lightness in her, doesn't mind her bossy nature and is quite happy to sit back and let her shine. Plus she can bicker with him all day long and knows he will bicker right back.

I think harry was the boring one... Ron was funny, Hermione and Ron together were just great in terms of thier banter. My overall fave character is Sirius.
One of my fave moments, (can’t remember if it was in the book I haven’t read it since I was 15) was when ron was making out with lavender and Hermione got jealous and walked off and then you see her and Harry sitting down and next thing Ron comes by with lavender and Hermione sets the birds on him. If that wasn’t obvious she liked him I’m not sure what is.

I think you're reaching a bit with your conclusion there.

Have you ever read Terry Pratchett's Discworld books? In the early ones, he includes mocking references to Anne McCaffrey's over-sexed Pern books, and I notice that too. Is that going to extreme lengths to demonstrate acquaintanceship with late 20th century planetary romances, then?

I think we need J.K. to come and do a live chat and confirm that Umbridve could indeed have been raped by the centaurs

You can read it the way you want to. I want to imagine that they only dragged her off and imprisoned her in a cage until Dumbledore came to take her off, but the motif of a screaming woman being carried off by a group of male centaurs is a tad evocative.

This is Umbridge, right? Would it really have been that bad if Dumbledore didn't come to her eventual rescue or whatever?

I don't agree at all. I think Ron was brilliant. He may not have been the most gifted wizard, he definitely had his flaws. But he was kind, loyal and so very brave. He spent his life feeling overlooked in a massive family, and then at school by his best friend.

Yes, he made some mistakes, but he was a child.

I always thought they balanced each other out. She made him think more, and he made her loosen up a little.

Reading this has really made me realise how much the films change your opinion. One of the issues with casting them so young is that Emma Watson and Rupert Grint had zero sexual chemistry between them and acted like brother and sister.

Once I clear my head of that and look to the books and picture Hermione and Ron how I see them it makes much more sense

I love Ron I just personally really object to marrying your boyfriend from when you were 15. Just never gonna Work!

Well, actually they were both 18 by that point.

And I also think that they had been through too much together. No one else would ever understand what they lived through.

I married the boyfriend I had when I was 17.... so maybe I see it differently. But they had been through so much and I'm sure that would change how they lived their lives

Hermione and Harry both fell in love with the warm, slightly chaotic and loving Weasley family as much as they did with their future spouses. It is also fitting that they all end up being brother and sister in laws.

Thanks to this fantastic thread I’ve just read the super The Politicians Wife, my first ever fanfic. What shall I read now?

There also seems to be no children born ‘out of wedlock’ in the wizarding world, even Tonks and Lupin seemed to quickly get married before she got pregnant.

Also in regards to Tonks and Lupin as I’ve just read some of the PPs on their relationship, Lupin IS very much into her. JK Rowling wrote a bit on his character on Pottermore and wrote that he was ‘smitten’ with her and that she was the woman of his dreams. All the insercurities and doubts was to do with his own issues about being a werewolf.

This is another story set very much post-Hogwarts, once Harry and his yearmates have acquired their children and are launching into their mid-life crises. This one is in a very different genre, with more humour and much less angst, but in the same quality league as the Politician's Wife.

Quitting Through The Ages by TobermorianSass
archiveofourown.org/works/5208608/chapters/12006260

If you like it, TobermorianSass has a lot of stories set in this version of the HP universe, ranging from lighthearted, quietly humorous stories to pieces that explore the bitterness of the period just after Mouldy Voldy's final fall.

Polkadots: that would fit in with Dumbledore's 'it's your choices that make you, not your abilities' line.

I have fallen down the fan fiction rabbit hole. Jeez some of it's a bit rude, i'm traumatised

Thanks JamieV I’ll check it out.
Wavy- yikes!