To still be annoyed that Hermione married Ron?

[ThomasRichard]

I know, the last book came out years ago, but I’m re-reading them now with DS and it’s got me annoyed all over again. He’s a mediocre, sulky man-child, while she’s a brilliantly talented witch. Why would she ever marry him?!

I believe the lack of sex is single-handedly responsible for the huge outpouring of fan fiction out there!

I agree that something extremely disturbing is hinted at in the Voldemort / children / cave scenario and on my recent re-read I thought it was probably sexual too. And of course there's Umbridge getting gang-raped by the centaurs. She was quite clever at putting things in which would pass by a 7 y/o reader but be caught by the parent doing the reading!

I think Ginny was about to give it up on Harry's birthday too - blast you Ron There was definitely lots more than "snogging" going on after curfew though, especially if your boyfriend has an Invisibility Cloak...

I quite wanted Luna and Dean to hook up. I always think Dean must be super cool and really hot, and it seems like he's one of the ones (i.e. everyone) who just thinks she's just plain weird during the DA stuff, until they're imprisoned in that dungeon together and then spend loads of time together at Shell Cottage, and then it's so sweet how they're friends when they both arrive for the Battle of Hogwarts. The just-plain-weird girl in me really wanted that storyline

They totally shagged though

She was quite clever at putting things in which would pass by a 7 y/o reader but be caught by the parent doing the reading!

She was quite clever at getting things past a 27 year old! LOL!

Honestly, just re-reading Deathly Hallows and didn't realize what a cannibal Fenrir Greyback was! Also found myself absolutely disgusted with Lupin in that book, and I used to ADORE Lupin. Now I'm like, what a wanker, go back to your pregnant wife douche.

I really liked Dean's character after a re-reading as well. I read somewhere that she planned a much bigger character arc for him, but didn't have the time. He and Seamus were supposedly going to be a couple. Of course LGBTQ characters were far more riske in the 90's/early 00's.

I wanted Luna and Harry. They were great together.

I agree that something extremely disturbing is hinted at in the Voldemort / children / cave scenario and on my recent re-read I thought it was probably sexual too.

Honestly, I got a lot of "sex" off him in after this re-through. I always thought of him as asexual before, but not after this re-through. Which to be fair, if she based him off real life psycho/socio paths, he would have an incredibly high sex drive and sex would be a power thing, not a love thing, for him.

Creepy.

He and Seamus were supposedly going to be a couple

Seriously? She really said that?! Gosh, that would've been a very controversial move to put it into canon. Imagine how the conservative American readership would have handled that if she'd thrown it at them in the last book.

I can still never make up my mind about the sex thing. I think he'd have liked tying people up and raping them, or more likely getting the Death Eaters to, but I don't see him having any sexual desires or pleasures. I can't even see him actually getting off on the power thing, it'd just be another means of humiliation. That's another problem I had with CC actually.

Seriously? She really said that?!

I've read it on a couple of other sites. Whether she ACTUALLY said that, I'm not sure. You know what fan sites are like. It would have been great though.

I can't even see him actually getting off on the power thing, it'd just be another means of humiliation.

But that's serial killers right. Part of the pleasure is humiliation. I think it would be odder if he wasn't a rapey bastard, than if he was.

Sex is just so unclear through the whole series...which to be fair is what you want in a book aimed at kids.

Wait - the centaurs did what with Umbridge?!

Fenrir Greyback is quite obviously obsessed with children, and their skin. I find him the creepiest of them all

It's off-screen, as it were, but it's clearly implied, but you have to have heard the old tales of centaurs to see it.

And then after that horrific crime against her, let us note Umbridge goes all in on the Ministry cooperation with blood-purist aims and magical creature subjugation.

Same Quim Reaper

Erm... I don’t think the centaurs gang raped umbridge, where on earth has that come from?!

She’s an unpleasant character, but there’s nothing to suggest that the centaurs are rapists, or that they would use that as a punishment. Also, they have the bodies of horses - she would die!

I agree with others that Luna's casting was great, but I think that it helped that the actress was/is a massive fan of the books therefore she actually knew Luna.

WRT Won-Won, he has that big turning point in DH when he storms off and comes back to find Harry and Hermione. All through the series he has this 'woe is me' thing about being poor and the hand-me-downs etc. I don't think he's actually as stupid as he thinks he is in the earlier books, but with quidditch captains and head boys as brothers to follow on from he feels stupid in comparison to them. We can see this when he looks in the mirror and sees himself as head boy.

Returning to Harry and Hermione is the point where Ron 'grows up' for want of a better phrase. He stops being the stupid little brother and goes to fight the fight. And I think Hermione sees this too.

Whether those feelings of not being good enough would appear again in later life (understandable perhaps if your wife is the MoM), I don't know.

I love Potter threads

Erm... I don’t think the centaurs gang raped umbridge, where on earth has that come from?!

Fan theory based on centaurs in Greek myths. I agree rape goes against how the centaur present themselves in the HP books. But that begs the question, what DID they do to Umbridge that traumatized her but left no marks.

But he centaurs in the Harry Potter world are dismissive of humans, and have no interest in associating with them. They are a proud race, and the implication is they are a ‘higher being’, i.e measured, intelligent. I don’t see how gang rape fits in at all, and I don’t think it is in any way implied.

I always took Umbridges shock and distress to be due to being trapped and out of control, as well as presumably being beaten/hurt in some way. She is someone used to controlling and dominating others - I imagine being improved by a ‘sub human’ race and then being rescued by dumbledore, who she had ousted, would have had a massive psychological impact on her.

I doubt that she’d be sat looking a bit dishevelled in a hospital bed next to a few teenagers if she had been gang taped by a group of horse like beings

Improved = imprisoned

I'm still upset about it! Too much of an intellectual gap. She would get bored.

Cornelius nothing in HP to suggest they're rapists, but everything in centaur mythology to suggest they are! I only picked up on it when I (for some reason) read OotP shortly after reading 'The Infernal Desire Machines of Doctor Hoffman'. Obviously it's not stated or anything, but it's a wink to anyone who knows their centaur lore.

Why did the Sorting Hat put Ron in Gryffindor? He's a wuss!

Nepotism

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I read a nice theory once about them all having characteristics of another house — so Harry could have been in Slytherin, Hermione in Ravenclaw and Ron in Hufflepuff, but they all wanted to be in Gryffindor.

Aw Ron does show bravery in some bits.. like when he sacrifices himself in the chess game in philosophers stone, a lot of wizards would not have done that