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To want an apology from my cheating SIL?

174 replies

GoEasyOnMe · 30/08/2018 11:46

I’m going to try and keep the details as brief as possible as this has a long history...

DB and SIL been married c10 years with 2 DC 9 and 7. I have always struggled to understand their relationship as I don’t believe she pulls her weight and from I see, openly speaks unkindly to my DB. My parents supported them and gave them substantial deposit for house, set SIL with job and have generally been at their beck and call. SIL never shown gratitude. DB takes all financial burden and does all housework (I’m not kidding, dishes, hoovering, bathroom, dusting etc) but mainly as he has slight ocd. SIL almost every weekend would spend one full day out with friends shopping or catching up with girlfriends. Often would be out overnight at short notice. I want to be clear here...I absolutely think she has the right to have down time and nights out but the balance is very wrong and DB left holding kiddies.

18 months ago, my DB found out she had been cheating. Not once but over a period of years and with different men. She also rung up debts as had a gambling addiction he wasn’t aware of. She moved out and they kept civil for kids while he pretty much had a mental breakdown. He went into therapy and took a real hard look at how they ended up there.

SIL also laid bare everything and admitted she hadn’t liked herself for a long time (terrible relationship with her own DP) and wanted to face her demons. She also went into therapy on her own...and they did couples therapy.

Meanwhile, myself, DH and DP picked up the pieces with DC.s as best we could and supported DB. It has been a traumatic period for us all!

After the counselling and a lot of work, they have decided to make a go of it. This thread isn’t about his decision...I don’t understand it but have to support his choice. And in fairness, SIL does seem to have had a wake up call and done a lot of changing.

However, as a couple, they now seem to expect everyone to pick up where we left off. It’s my Aunts 60th in November and the first time we will be seeing her since it all happened. I have asked DB if we can have a chat with her beforehand and perhaps clear the air. I’m not talking all at once but feel she should sit with my parents and then myself and talk through it all. My DP have seen her since through childcare but the conversation has wholly revolved around kids, errands and schedules etc.

I don’t want to rake over the whole affair but I do think myself and DP are owed an apology at least and perhaps commitment that things will be different from now on. My DB disagrees and says he was the hurt party and he’s forgiven her so that should be the end of it. It’s not a matter of needing our forgiveness (we respect my DB and will support him whatever), it’s more that we were hurt, we were also let down and we had to put our lives on hold to support him...therefore she owes us an apology too.

AIBU at this event to be civil to her but not fully engage until we get a 121 conversation with an apology and a promise of things change?

If you’ve made it this far, thank you!

OP posts:
GoEasyOnMe · 30/08/2018 11:47

Ok, not quite as brief as I intended 😄

OP posts:
GoEasyOnMe · 30/08/2018 11:49

DP is parents...I don’t have a husband and a partner! New to this!

OP posts:
PotteringAlong · 30/08/2018 11:49

I have asked DB if we can have a chat with her beforehand and perhaps clear the air. I’m not talking all at once but feel she should sit with my parents and then myself and talk through it all.

Do you really think this should happen? Really? It’s not your marriage. Not your decision. You don’t need to be privy to all the details.

SassitudeandSparkle · 30/08/2018 11:50

YABU. She doesn't owe you an apology. If you don't like her then don't have much to do with her but I really don't see why you would expect her to apologise. It's not even going to make a difference as to how you feel about her. What would you get out of it?

Frogscotch7 · 30/08/2018 11:50

What exactly do you want an apology for? It was your brother she screwed over and they’ve dealt with it. I don’t think she owes you anything sorry.

flyingsaucersherbet · 30/08/2018 11:50

I understand it’s hard to see someone you love hurt, but her relationship was / is with your brother, not you. She doesn’t owe you an apology! (Though I can see she’s hurt you by hurting your brother). This isn’t about you, it’s about them, and I think you need to step back a bit.

delilahswishes · 30/08/2018 11:50

My DB disagrees and says he was the hurt party

Sorry but I agree, I'm not really sure what you need an apology for? You were there for your brother and for the DC but that wasn't for her?

Upon my relationship breakdown my family ralied around with childcare and help around the house etc. But it was in no way for my ex but to support me and the DC.

You need to back off a bit and leave them to it, I can understand you are hurt and dissapointed but he has chosen to take her back and that is his buisness.

MorrisZapp · 30/08/2018 11:51

No it's weird to get her to discuss her marriage with you. Just keep her at arms length.

Secretsquirrel101 · 30/08/2018 11:51

Don't be so daft. She doesn't owe you an apology. Their relationship is their own, and they are choosing to work through their issues, butt out.

GruciusMalfoy · 30/08/2018 11:52

YABU. What do you need an apology for? It's not your marriage, she didn't cheat on you. Stop making your brother's pain about you.

glintandglide · 30/08/2018 11:52

I do see your point but she’s probably terrified at the prospect of having a sit down talk with you and your parents. I think you should accept this is the way they’re coming back into your life as a couple

NonaGrey · 30/08/2018 11:52

I have asked DB if we can have a chat with her beforehand and perhaps clear the air. I’m not talking all at once but feel she should sit with my parents and then myself and talk through it all

No.

I understand why you feel that way but, no.

She didn’t make any promises or commitments to you, just to your brother. He’s forgiven her, you need to accept that.

You don’t need to like her or spend more time with her than necessary but she isn’t a child to sit quietly while you and your parents give her a dressing down (and there’s no other way that discussion would go)

You didn’t like her before, you like her less now. That’s it.

Be there for your brother for when it falls apart again.

PJBanana · 30/08/2018 11:52

To be honest, I’m not sure how this apology from her would improve things between you all. It almost seems like it would just be a way to humiliate her further.

You say you have accepted your DB’s decision to give things another go (even if you don’t agree with it).

If I were you, I would just get on with things now and keep her at arm’s length from now on. You say you don’t want to rake over the affair but that’s exactly what you would be doing if you insist on an apology from her.

Sadly, I wouldn’t be expecting their relationship to last, and I would be focusing your attention on your DB and DNs, not her.

Wineandchoc · 30/08/2018 11:53

I understand how you feel, in fact my db's (who I adore) partner is similar and yet he is smitten. Each time they get back together after she dumps him, I secretly hate her for a while.
However our brothers are grown men who make their own choices in life and relationships. Yabu though as it is not your relationship and it is not you who she has cheated on. The impact on you is by (rightly imo) choosing to support your db. Now you should support him by being accepting of his decision.

TheHulksPurplePanties · 30/08/2018 11:53

I don't understand what she owes you an apology for in the slightest? For being there for your brother while he went through a tough time? Isn't that what families are for? Has he gone groveling to you with an apology yet? YABVU

shaggedthruahedgebackwards · 30/08/2018 11:53

Agree that SIL doesn't sound like a very nice person and has treated your DB badly but not sure why you see yourself as a victim in this and therefore deserving of an apology

Help out and support your DB as you see fit but don't expect the SIL to show any appreciation as she clearly isn't that sort of person

I would be giving the whole family a wide berth if I were you. Try not to get too involved and keep your distance. If your DB chooses to stay with her that's his look out.

user1483387154 · 30/08/2018 11:54

She doesn't owe you an apology. She didn't cheat on you

Caaarrrl · 30/08/2018 11:54

You are being extremely unreasonable.

She does not owe you or anyone else in your family an apology. It is your brother's decision to work through their problems and if he has chosen to try to do this, then you can either support him or not.

Confusedbeetle · 30/08/2018 11:54

A very difficult story and I see where you are coming from, but your brother is right. It is his life to try and get right. Family involvement will make it harder. Your relationship with her may never recover. Support your brother as best you can. Leave them to try and make it work. That way it will not be your fault if/when it fails. Keep everything on the face of it as normal as possible for the children

Caaarrrl · 30/08/2018 11:56

Just to add, please make sure that even if you cannot be around her, you keep the relationship with your brother. He will definitely need your support in the future when she does this again.

AngeloMysterioso · 30/08/2018 11:56

I do think myself and DP are owed an apology at least and perhaps commitment that things will be different from now on. My DB disagrees and says he was the hurt party and he’s forgiven her so that should be the end of it.

He's right.

SassitudeandSparkle · 30/08/2018 11:58

Well this is pretty unanimous! I have a feeling that the OP is not going to be happy with the responses though!

FlamingoLass · 30/08/2018 11:59

My DB disagrees and says he was the hurt party

He's right and you should pack this idea away immediately - or he'll resent you. He's chosen to forgive her. Support his decision and it'll help him heal.

MynameisJune · 30/08/2018 12:00

YABU she doesn’t owe you an apology, your DB is right. He was the victim and they’ve worked through it. If you respect him then respect his decision on this.

GreatDuckCookery6211 · 30/08/2018 12:00

Do you think by forcing someone to make an apology it will be sincere OP?

This isn't about you. Your brother and his wife have gone through a very difficult period but are now trying to work through it and it seems SIL has changed for the better. Hopefully it will continue.

She doesn't owe you an apology and you're wrong to expect one. Maybe if you're approachable and pleasant in time she may feel like offering you one but shouldn't be forced into it.

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