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Do you believe Women can't have penises?

888 replies

loveyouradvice · 28/08/2018 14:36

Just that really.... inspired by the recent sticker campaign.... "Women can't have penises" and "Some women have penises"....

Simple question - simple answer.

Me - Yes, I believe women can't have penises.

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pigsDOfly · 28/08/2018 15:07

If that's a comment on my post SerenDippitty I didn't say women give birth or imply that giving birth is a qualification of womenhood. I said men can't give birth.

It's bloody ridiculous when you see pictures of women with beards and they're claiming that they have given birth as men, which is what I was referring to.

After I had my womb and ovaries removed I was still just as much a woman as I was when I had them.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 28/08/2018 15:08

No. Women can’t.

therealposieparker · 28/08/2018 15:09

It's not hateful to know and express that women don't have penises.

IAmLurkacus · 28/08/2018 15:09

Women do not have penises YANBU!

LatinForTelly · 28/08/2018 15:10

Woman is a description of gender, not biological sex (unless of course you ask for some sort of anatomical and chromosomal check before applying the term),

Errr, no it isn't, RatRolyPoly, woman is an adult human female.

Or how else would you define it, in a way that isn't circular?

Postino · 28/08/2018 15:10

The reason it matters is because you can't fight for/defend women's rights if you can't define the group that needs them

YetAnotherSpartacus · 28/08/2018 15:10

Some biological males have a female gender identity. Woman is a description of gender, not biological sex (unless of course you ask for some sort of anatomical and chromosomal check before applying the term), so on rare occasions women (trans women) may have penises.

Er no. 'Woman' is a description of sex, not gender. Women are forcibly gendered as feminine. They do not have penises because this is a sex characteristic of males. Not hard to understand.

BartholinsSister · 28/08/2018 15:10

I guess with some of the clever surgery available nowadays a woman might be able to have one sewn on.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 28/08/2018 15:11

I'm happy for someone to present as a woman whatever stage they are at in the sex change process

That's nice crispbutty. I think I remember you.

RatRolyPoly · 28/08/2018 15:12

Women are forcibly gendered as feminine.

My bad, I forget you guys are sticklers for exact wording or you act like you don't have a clue what anyone's going on about.

Woman is a description of gender identity, often referred to as gender.

This is not the same as the rigidly imposed gender stereotypes that are imposed on us all, also often referred to as gender.

Hope that clears things up for you.

Aeroflotgirl · 28/08/2018 15:12

No a woman does not have a penis, some Transwomen do though.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 28/08/2018 15:13

I feel uncomfortable with it but I can't express why. Maybe because I knew them before the transition

I'd feel uncomfortable too - probably more if it was MtF, but still...

OctaviaOctober · 28/08/2018 15:14

It's this century's version of "glass delusion". In 500 years people will either look back and laugh at us, or we will have a non binary world. I know which one is more likely.

puckingfixies · 28/08/2018 15:14

No hate here, just stating facts - a woman does not have a penis.

Tinkobell · 28/08/2018 15:14

I'm sooo glad not to have a penis. It would wreck the lines of my nice new bikini. Also, the pressure of having to rise to the occasion. What a hassle! 😁

YetAnotherSpartacus · 28/08/2018 15:15

Woman is a description of gender identity, often referred to as gender

Nope. Still a big 'F'. 'Woman' is a description of sex. Not hard. I'm sure you'll get it right on your third try?

sunshinesupermum · 28/08/2018 15:15

Women don't have penises. Never have had that's why we're called women and not men. HTH

thegardenfairy · 28/08/2018 15:17

Men have penises. Women don't. A biological fact.

upaladderagain · 28/08/2018 15:18

Lorena Bobbit had one briefly

RatRolyPoly · 28/08/2018 15:18

'Woman' is a description of sex. Not hard. I'm sure you'll get it right on your third try?

Lol. You're going to have to do better than that. In what way do you ensure that you only ever apply the word "woman" to those of the biological sex "female" with only xx chromosomes? Good luck demonstrating that you do. Because you don't.

You go on what people look like and what people tell you they are. That is a combination of their gender expression and their gender identity. Identity trumps expression, because if you think someone is a guy at first glance then they correct you, most people would accept the correction.

Sooooo.... not actually a term used when you know somebody's sex is it. There's already a word for that. It's female.

Mrbatmun · 28/08/2018 15:18

Typical human females do not have penises. Typical biological males do. Some biological males have a female gender identity. Woman is a description of gender, not biological sex (unless of course you ask for some sort of anatomical and chromosomal check before applying the term), so on rare occasions women (trans women) may have penises.

A woman is an adult human female. What is so hard to understand about that?

Jesus fuck, how have we got to this point?

FreckledLeopard · 28/08/2018 15:19

Woman is not a description of 'gender identity' (whatever the hell that really means.

Woman = adult, human, FEMALE. It's a description based on sex. Gender is irrelevant.

A woman cannot have a penis. A man cannot have a vagina.

HavingALittleBabyToolshed · 28/08/2018 15:19

Women don’t have penises and politicians shouldn’t be in trouble for stating that fact

penarthnews.wordpress.com/2018/08/26/penarth-plaid-candidate-who-dared-offend-trans-activists-faces-disciplinary-action/

PolkerrisBeach · 28/08/2018 15:19

It's not a belief. It's a biological fact that women don't have penises.

FanWithoutAGuard · 28/08/2018 15:19

Woman is a description of gender, not biological sex

I know people are desperately trying to make that happen, but it simply isn't true. To most people, and the dictionary, and the law, and biology, and medicine, woman means adult, human, female - ie. it's a descriptor of sex, not gender (which is an oppressive social construct and should be done away with entirely)

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