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DH away for 5 not 4 nights in NYC

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lolarocco · 20/08/2018 13:57

DH has a daughter from a previous marriage, she's 22. We have 3DC, 6, 5 & 3. DH decided for her 21st birthday (last year) he would like to take her to New York. I admit I did feel a bit envious but didn't really mind. I am concerned about the cost as this is not something we can really afford and DH is useless with money anyway, spends it as soon as he gets it. Anyway I asked him to limit it to 4 nights away. He agreed. Then booked flights without discussing dates with me and turns out he'll be away for 5 nights. He says he didn't count the night on the flight home as "being away". I am furious for three reasons. Firstly, on my own with 3 very demanding and exhausting for 5 nights with all that entails. no family nearby and can't ask friends as they mostly have their own DC and those who don't will be working during the week. SEcondly because he explicitly promised 4 nights but thirdly his reaction - he's actually laughing at me and keeps telling me "to get over myself", what's the big deal etc? Looking back, i feel he knew exactly what he was doing when he booked flights as he did it with stepDD in our house while I was looking after our DC. He would never normally do that without checking first. I'm really upset over this and cannot see how to get over it. He keeps asking how long I'm going to be annoyed for and refuses to apologise. AIBU please?

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PoesyCherish · 22/08/2018 12:06

Haven't rtft but having recently been to NYC he definitely needs the extra day there. As others have pointed out 3 nights + 1 night travelling really doesn't give them much time to enjoy the city especially with time zone changes. I also would say he's only there for 4 nights as the night flight doesn't really count.

Though I do agree he has perhaps set a precedent for the other DC when they reach 21.

greendale17 · 22/08/2018 12:36

**Tessliketrees

New York for 4/5 nights for a birthday sounds like a piss take 21 or not.

I also find it super odd that she would want to do that. 4 nights in New York with her dad? Weird.**

How is a piss take? Most people I know got big presents for their 21st. And I don’t think it weird at all.

pouraglasshalffull · 22/08/2018 12:54

Yes you are being unreasonable. Its 4 nights in NY, one night travelling- he's right it doesn't count as part of the trip. Be nice about it or you'll just be arguing til he goes and after he gets back

I don't think its weird she wants to go to NY with her dad, I am very close with my dad and I would happily do the same. Especially since she doesn't live with her dad she'll see it as nice quality time.

ClaireAnne1976 · 22/08/2018 15:44

Any update OP?

Holldstock1 · 22/08/2018 21:52

OP, I think you are going through a hard time at the moment, so first of all you need to give yourself a break about how you are feeling about this. You are feeling upset and I think that despite what other people or I say or think, how you are feeling is how you are feeling.

I find its really hard sometimes to look at myself and evaluate why I'm upset with a situation and why others are considering things from a more logical and calm viewpoint. But sometimes I still need to hear those views so I can bluster and rant, but then think through their points to see things in a new light.

So be abit gentle with yourself, then step away and look at this situation as though you are a stranger hearing about this from someone else. Think about what people are saying and where when you really think about it, you would if it were someone else they were discussing, would be agreeing with them.

I don't know your situation only what you have said, I can only understand things you've said and from my own personal experiences.

I don't have step children to deal with, I hope that if I did I would want to think of them and value them as much as my own children.

My two children are now in their late teens, but I do remember how hard it was when they were little as there was only 18 months between them. One of them is also on the autistic spectrum (which we didn't find out till Yr 1 in Primary) and had very difficult behavioural problems. Life was challenging and exhausting. I also had no support from family. My mother was too elderly, the rest of my family were 2 1/2 hours away and my husband's parents and family who lived 20 minutes away were not interested in helping at all. My friends were also snowed under with their own young families, and because of my youngest autism often found him difficult to cope with.

My husband works in IT in a fairly rare specialist role. The two companies he worked for over the time our children were babies and through primary school constantly sent him away. Constantly.

Overnight stays, 2-3 days, a week, 2 weeks, a month - in the UK, Ireland, Europe, US, China. I remember him being sent away a few weeks after our second child was born, and what made him resign from the first company was when they sent him off to the US for 2 weeks whilst I was still in plaster.

I also remember being rushed into hospital with meningitis when my youngest was a baby and my eldest was a toddler both of whom had the winter vomiting bug and had been ill for 5 days running whilst we had building work going on. My husband was on a work trip in California and couldn't get back because the airports were closed because of wildfires. My in laws didn't want to catch anything so sent someone else to look after my children and didn't come once to see me in hospital. The person looking after my children came twice so I could see the children once I was able to have visitors but I literally only had a hospital gown for a week before my husband managed to finally get home.

It did vary how frequently he was sent away but one particularly memorable year we worked out he'd spent 5 months away from home with trips to the US. That involved him being home for a couple of days or a week, then going off out to the US for anything from a week to a month.

I remember being very frazzled. Very emotional and very, very, very exhausted. Its not easy when you haven't got that extra pair of hands, that other person to say help me with such and such so I can have time to eat or take a bath. It is exhausting, and being on your own with young children without support is challenging.

Now I know that my situation back then wasn't the same as yours. My husband went away for work not for pleasure, but I'm glad to say that no matter how hard it was for me I was always understanding it was something he had to do. It was part and parcel of the job and the person he is. I never begrudged it, I missed him, was relieved when he got safely back (I always remembering watching the Twin Towers falling while playing on a rug with my oldest as a baby), but I never put a big guilt trip on him or openly resented it to make him feel bad. It was just something that happened as part of our family life. And in fact to this day when he goes off somewhere he's having to fly to, I put a secret card and a letter to him hidden in his case to let him know he's loved, missed and I'm looking forward to his return.

It was my job as a mum and a wife to keep things going and support my children and my husband. That is part of being in a family which loves and supports each other.

Now he doesn't travel as often and my children are now young men. And over the years I've gotten back into doing work and things for me.

But I do remember those years and so I am sympathetic to your problem of no support for those 5 days. I also understand that he is going away to the US to take his daughter on a birthday treat while you are at home with three young children. Its a jolly not work. I also understand about the whole money side of things. We had it quite tight for a number of years while the children were little.

But, I think you need to put things into perspective and take a real hard look at yourself and why you are feeling this way. I don't want you to switch off, and I don't want to tell you I think this or that. I think you need to ask yourself some hard difficult questions, look yourself in the mirror and answer them honestly.

Is it the money (which you agreed could be spent on this trip)?
Is it that you feel you are not able to cope with your children?

Is it resentment he will be enjoying himself?
Is it jealousy that he is not treating you?

Is it jealously and resentment that he's treating his daughter - your step daughter and therefore not a child of your blood? Would you feel that way if one of your children were 21 and he wanted to treat them?
Do you begrudge her having her dad to herself and that he's making a big thing out of what is an important and significant coming of age birthday?
Do you resent that he has a daughter who isn't your child? Are you jealous of her?
Are you feeling abit insecure of your place in his affections within the wider dynamics of his family?
Are you feeling taken for granted and unsupported by your husband generally when he's at home?
Are you feeling exhausted and depressed? You may not realise you are depressed.

I had PND after my first son and he had colic plus we were waiting to hear if he had inherited a neurological condition I was diagnosed with when I was 2 months pregnant. I was NOT in a good place and it made me very emotional, irritable and not always very reasonable. Unimportant things would set me off big time.

Think about the above questions and answer them honestly. I think if you do you will understand what is generating your anger about your husband spending 5 nights away with his daughter. I hope you resolve this conflict and resentment you feel and are able to talk things through honestly with your husband.

CaledonianQueen · 23/08/2018 04:18

I think by now you have established that your reaction regarding the fifth night travelling is VOTT!

However, it sounds very much like he made this grand gesture of a trip to NYC for his dd, withought so much as a conversation with OP explaining how in hell they were going to afford it!

Being in a situation where money is tight myself, I have felt awful this summer, as our little girl is noticing that her peers go on lovely holidays abroad, whilst we can barely afford days out as a family. At eight, when the world revolves around her, it is hard to justify to her why her friends can go on amazing holidays at Easter, Summer, October and Christmas, whilst she has never even been on a plane before.

So it would be incredibly selfish behaviour if my DH sweeped in after our Summer of spendthrift activities and took his (ok imaginary) first daughter on a fantastic Jolly to NYC! That is a shitty thing to do! Regardless of birthday age, regardless of taking your budget for birthdays above and beyond budget, he is spending a large chunk of family money which you don’t have, to spoil his eldest child, at the expense of his other three children.

He will have three younger children who will expect equal treatment when they turn 21! Although, I am willing to bet that he will plead poverty when their 21st birthdays come around. I don’t know if I could look past the blatant disregard for family money. Not to mention his refusal to even discuss whether they could afford such a generous gift! I just hope that OP has enough money to adequately feed her children, after their DF has spent another chunk of family money on spending money in NYC! I would be inclined to take out in cash what you will need for food shopping, before he can spend it!

Harriedharriet · 23/08/2018 04:36

5 days in New York is how we celebrate a 21st nowadays ? Bloody hell.

SilverBirchTree · 23/08/2018 04:42

Woah people are being so tough on you.

I'd be stressed too. Your husband who is irresponsible with money is going to spend four/five nights in a notoriously expensive city, with his adult daughter who he will presumably be treating the whole time. Lovely idea - if one can afford it, which it seems he can't.

I don't think it's the time away that is really bothering you.

I'd be annoyed OP. He's already broken his word and been dismissive of your concerns. Him on 5th Avenue with your credit card... Confused

Harriedharriet · 23/08/2018 04:49

For what it is worth I don't think yabu. For starters, 5 days of annual leave is a lot.
It is also unfair to compare op to single parents who look after multiple children all the time. She is not single and nor is he.
It is a very extravagant gift in terms of money and time. He benefits hugely from this jolly which could not happen without the op doing her very large part.
I get you op. And I would not feel good right now.

SilverBirchTree · 23/08/2018 04:49

OP didn't say she couldn't cope! Are we all just pretending that getting three small kids fed, homeworked, bathed and in bed isn't exhausting and tedious? + all the housework once they are in bed.

It's a lot more work for OP, and it's bloody sexist to ignore that in the name of making sure her husband can saunter around New York spending money they don't have.

Harriedharriet · 23/08/2018 04:59

Why is everyone saying " well she choose to have three kids", and "Why can 't she loom after ger kids"? Wtf is wrong with people? I have three. Sometimes easy, sometimes hard, sometimes lonely, sometimes fantastic but ALWAYS great to have help. Wonder Women out in force tonight.

Harriedharriet · 23/08/2018 05:01

Would love to know what 21 year old DSDs' mother has to say about said trip and while we are at it, the last 21 years..GrinGrinGrin

WeightorWhite · 23/08/2018 05:56

@JulianOfNorwich bloody spot on!

OP has three children her DH has four, he is jointly responsible for all his children not just the three with OP.

Do five nights out of 365 a year to spend with one child alone is not big deal.

OP, where ever you've gone YABU.

WeightorWhite · 23/08/2018 10:41

@Harriedharriet it could of course include rest days in that five days so maybe only three days leave. So on average we get 25 days leave, so that would leave 22 days leave to be with his other DCs....doesn't seem at all unreasonable to me!

And if it is all leave then he will have rest days when he is back to give OP a break?

@lolarocco are you coming back?

socraties1234 · 24/08/2018 14:43

Are they back yet ? Did they have a nice time ?

Tessliketrees · 24/08/2018 16:00

How is a piss take? Most people I know got big presents for their 21st. And I don’t think it weird at all

Must be nice to be that wealthy.

OP isn't apparently.

sansouci · 26/08/2018 22:13

I wish someone would take me to NYC for my birthday! Or anytime... not fussy. Grin

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