Totally in-appropriate outfits for toddler session

[Bellabutterfly2016]

So this afternoon me and dd went to a holiday toddler session just in our village hall where the usual group meets up.

Ok so I get it's hot but today we had women pushing 40 (and I'm one myself) with skimpy cut off jean shorts revealing butt cheeks and chafing between the legs (to the point where 1 little boy said to his mummy "I can see that lady's bottom!!!) and dresses and skirts so short when people were bending over to play they were flashing knickers that were maybe white a long time ago and boobs hanging out of very low vest tops nearly popping out!!!

I had to laugh at one of my friends tho - she just smiled and said "the weather brings them all out" which certainly seemed to be the case today.

No idea why people felt this was appropriate!!!!! Why do they do it????

Whilst answering your post I am inappropriately dressed. I hope it doesn't bother you :)

UK was voted worst dressed country in the world a few years back... I didn't doubt it for a sec.

This**

Mumsnet is so funny sometimes - posters trampling over one another in competition to being the most liberal they possibly can.

“So what if she wore a mankini down the road in front of several children and teenagers, who are you to judge? A human body is a natural and wonderful thing”

No need to dress like an Amish but there's dresses/skirts/shorts that are above the knee but also waaay below the arse
Exactly. I have a pair of short shorts. They fall about a 3/4 inch under my bum cheek. (But apparently I'm only appeasing others and bringing us back to the Victorian era by being of the view that arse cheeks should be covered. )

To be honest if anything I imagine you’re probably jealous of them
I hate this line.
Woman has an opinion on another woman.
People claim 'you must be jealous'.
Because a woman couldn't possibly have an opinion in it's own right

See it all the time:
Man wanders around topless and in shorts you can see his hairy arse crack in - almost universal agreement that he should dress appropriately because nobody wants to see it
Woman has her arse hanging out - nooo don't have an opinion, you're probably jealous of her figure, jealous of her confidence, jealous of her existence, man OP you are so horrible why do you love body shaming women, you want to take us to the Victorian era where women should have their clothing policed

SAHM expresses opinion about WOHM - Clearly jealous of the extra money and career
WOHM expresses opinion about SAHM - Clearly jealous that mum is at home making memories and the working mum must be super jealous of all the time she's missing out on

Why do people explain away women's opinions as jealously?

Maisy that's so true.

Haha! Some numpty actually did the “you’re just jealous” thing!
Ffs

zippyswife

Really? You don't have an understanding of why people care about what other people are wearing? There is a whole 'style and beauty' topic on MN, there are hundreds of threads about what to wear to weddings, events, school run.

YOU might not care what people wear, or care what people think about what you're wearing, but surely you can understand that other (most?) people do.

@TheOrig, but surely you can understand that I may have a view on what you’re wearing, but I might choose where, when and if to express it because, y’know, common decency/manners/kindness

But apparently I'm only appeasing others and bringing us back to the Victorian era by being of the view that arse cheeks should be covered.

No, Victorian era because you and others on this thread seem to think it is acceptable to tell other women how they should or shouldn't dress based on what you think is acceptable attire, regardless how that woman's feelings.

Victorian era because you and others on this thread seem to think it is acceptable to tell other women how they should or shouldn't dress based on what you think is acceptable attire, regardless how that woman's feelings.
It's perfectly acceptable to have an opinion on attire.

I think these silly jumpsuits with baggy cullotte legs (often in unflattering prints and fabrics) look utterly ridiculous on almost everyone I've seen wearing them. I wouldn't say they shouldn't wear them though.

It's not Victorian to be of the view that people should cover their arse. As another poster said, it's only on mumsnet where you'd have people falling over themselves claiming it's totally fine to see the odd labia when you're in Tesco. Some women have naturally larger labia majora and to suggest they should be covered is soooo dated and tantamount to body shaming.

There is nothing Victorian in thinking people (women AND men) should have their backsides covered. By all means they can CHOOSE not to and if they wish to have it all hang out by all means, but some of us will have an opinion about it.

Still missing the point @MaisyPops

No one said you can't have an opinion, but there's a difference between having an opinion and forcing your opinion onto others and expecting them to comply to your wishes.

@maisypops yes love we all have an opinion just some of us don’t express it in public forums coz it makes us sound like judgement cunts !!!!

Nice.

Now I'm a cunt for having the terribly shocking view that people should cover their arses.

I do hope people on the thread about topless men were being called cunts and that their opinions about men needing to put a top on in Tesco were Victorian. Probably not though.

@maisy, you’re trying to make this a feminist issue, but missing the point of feminism. For hundreds of years women have been judged for everything they do, say, wear. Therefore to continue that trend when we’re supposed to be more enlightened isn’t right.

I wouldn’t feel so bad telling a man to put on a top because they haven’t had the same level scrutiny and prejudice!!!!!!

P.s I didn’t call you a cunt, I said one would be a judgemental cunt. There’s a difference

I'm sending my DP out today in his budgie smugglers, let's see what happens there....!!! Mmmm. Nice. Not.

To be fair, I waver between 'wear what you like' and 'have some decorum'. Tricky one, as whatever one says sounds judgy. All I know is, that no one wants to see my cellulite arse, so my cut offs are mid thigh, and I wear floaty short sleeved blouses to keep cool. All bought in charity shops this year cos I couldn't afford a heatwave wardrobe!

This is ridiculous. I never understand this rush to be cooler than cooler, more liberal than thou which exists on MN but not in real life.

I too think that ultra short shorts and way too much cleavage are inappropriate for a physical toddler group session. Much as I would think that in the work place or a museum.

Of course you can display as much of your body as you like but not necessarily in public! Isn’t there an element of being considerate? MN is full of people saying neighbours having bbqs is inconsiderate, people using their washing machine at 7am is inconsiderate, yet defends a persons right to show their arse in public.

I don’t think for a minute the posters in here wouldn’t raise an eyebrow at a woman who went to toddler group with her arse flashing and breasts out.

I do think the op was wrong to mention age though.

What's a judgement cunt, Strongmummy? If you're going to insult someone, at least make it grammatically correct.
Or you'll sound like an ignorant cunt...

It's a free country OP, you should be grateful for that.
You really shouldn't be so affected by what people wear. If I attended a toddler group and was told what to wear in order to attend, they would be told where to stick it.

sorry you’re right @iamagreyhound. You can now be a smug cunt

I'm not into telling women what they should wear, but to balance out the piling on that's going on here, I have to say if this was a 40 year old man with his belly out at toddler group probably most people would consider that inappropriate, and that's only a belly not a view of his bum.

So I think there's scope for thinking clothing is inappropriate and feeling a bit uncomfortable without it saying bad things about you as a person.

MN is funny sometimes. On another thread where the burka was discussed women are told how unacceptable their dress is and how dare they wear that even if these women choose to wear it. And on here its totally fine and nobody has a right to judge anyone else on their clothes. What about all the judgemental tossers on that thread??

^inconsistency abounds on MN, I think we all have to get used to it.

you’re trying to make this a feminist issue, but missing the point of feminism
No I'm not.

I believe that PEOPLE (so men AND women, as I have said countless times!) shouldn't have their arse on show.

It's hardly radical statement of the century.

annoyed1212
Because what you have to understand is that taking clothes off and flashing your vag to the world is always empowering and nobody should say otherwise otherwise they are body shaming and being a generally awful judgemental person. If a woman dresses in a way that a male dominated society has socialised them into seeing it as sexy then you can't ever comment on the sexy element at all (in fact you should gloss over the whole socialisation element and pretend that it doesn't exist and then praise women for opting to dress that way having made that decision in an ideological and social vacuum). But if a woman opts to wear religious dress (again with huge debates to be had around it, and rightly so!) then there is no way on earth a woman could ever have consciously made that decision for herself.

It's a bizarre inconsistency. Some dress choices are up for discussion, others aren't. Some discussion of socialisation is ok, but only when it involves women covering up. Removing clothes is always empowering.

@maisy - no one is saying you can’t have an opinion. I hate those cut off jeans too. The difference is I wouldn’t post bitchy comments about it to a random group of strangers on MN!!! It’s just bloody odd.

strong I think the OP was personal in some of her comments about the individual (it also wouldn't cross my mind to make a thread about someone in that way, much easier and nicer if you want to debate clothing to keep it general but personal preference and all that). I said that earlier.

It has made me a bit about how many people will be of the view that people are wrong to hold or voice a view because the person in question is a woman (as if somehow being a woman means it's all ok whereas it would be a ok to criticise a man for having his arse out).
That was my issue (and that seemingly me saying men and women should cover their backsides kept coming back to 'you're telling women how to dress and attempting to make it a feminist issue').
I'm of the view wear what you like, but if anyone chooses to let every thing hang out people will have an opinion that probabky isn't positive.