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To have kicked them out?

261 replies

upsideup · 07/08/2018 16:24

Friend has gone on holiday for the first time without her 14 and 16 year old dd's, they didn't want to be left home alone overnight so we agreed they could stay here. We were told that they would be no bother, would be out with friends or in their own house all day and we didn't need to provide meals as they had money to get their own (though we said we didn't mind giving them food), basically we were just giving them a bed in our house to sleep in.

They got here Saturday evening and are sharing dd2's room who was away but back tonight and was planning on sharing with DD1 for the rest of the week. They had trashed her room within an few hours of getting here, gone through all of her stuff, chucked her clothes onto the floor and just made a mess. We had to take out all of dd's private/precious stuff out of the room so they couldn't go through it or destroy it anymore. DD has an en suite, I told them to keep and use their makeup in there as the bedroom has white walls and a white carpet. I looked last night and both their makeup bags were on the white carpet surrounded by loads of makeup stains and there's also what I hope is makeup smeared down the wall. The bathroom and bedroom are just an absolute mess.

They didn't got out at all Sunday or Monday day and just stayed in dds room watching TV, they've helped themselves to food and refused any of the meals I've offered to cook them and have just ordered themselves takeaways to eat in dd's bedroom even though I asked them to eat it downstairs. Whenever I have tried to talk to them they've been blunt and rude, when my kids have tried to speak to them they have been rude to them, they swore at my 4 year old because he was annoying them. When physically fighting with each other in front of 3 year they accidentally pushed her over onto the bench and cut her lip.

They went out last night and came back at 11pm with alcohol and several friends , who we didn't let. It would take to long to list all the things they've done wrong but they've just been a nightmare. So when they got up today at half two I told them to go home, they started to apologise but quickly started getting really angry and stormed out without most of their stuff. I'm not planning on letting them back in here but friend has said to please let them back, that I can't take back my offer and leave them home alone.

I'm not being unreasonable to have kicked them out, am I?
They're not small kids and will hopefully fine, although they probably will trash friends house which I do feel bad about.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/08/2018 17:11

Friend has apologised for their behaviour and said when she gets back she will pay for anything that needs to be replaced if I let them come back

The implication being that, when you don't let them come back, she'll refuse to do anything more about it?

Some friend Hmm

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 07/08/2018 17:12

Does your friend's house look like a war zone?

The only thing that you are being even slightly unreasonable about is having both children AND white carpets. You can choose one or the other but not both, those are the rules. Although the colour of the carpet makes not difference at all in this case as make up marks every colour of carpet.

HollowTalk · 07/08/2018 17:13

I was all ready to storm in and say you're over reacting and they're just teenagers have some patience

Confused
Slimmingsnake · 07/08/2018 17:15

Take photos of everything ,and bill the parents

MarthaArthur · 07/08/2018 17:18

Dont let them back ever! Your own childten have the right to safety in their own home and they dont have that. The three year olds been injured!

Filthy nasty little brats. It would be the end of the friendship for me too op.

eddielizzard · 07/08/2018 17:19

No wonder she went on holiday without them Hmm

No you're not unreasonable. Take photos and write down everything they did otherwise you'll forget. Awful behaviour on their part.

Notevilstepmother · 07/08/2018 17:20

Totally unacceptable behaviour. As for Frankly I can see why your friend needed a holiday without them maybe if she had actually parented them they wouldn’t be so dreadfully behaved.

She needs to get off her sun lounger and take some responsibility for her bratty children.

MipMipMip · 07/08/2018 17:20

she will pay for anything that needs to be replaced if I let them come back,

I can't imagine where they learnt their behaviour from. Hmm

Metoodear · 07/08/2018 17:21

No your on the right op ring parents tellling them they need to come home this moment or arrange something else their teens have been awful

YouTheCat · 07/08/2018 17:21

I'd bill the friend for a professional clean of your dd's room.

I happily left my dd at 15 for a couple of nights. She had a friend over to stay to keep her company as she does genuinely have anxiety. I left her some money to buy takeaway and she was absolutely fine. House was tidyish when I got back but definitely not trashed.

PlatypusPie · 07/08/2018 17:21

The mother should be on her way home, expensive flights routed via three different airports if necessary, but she needs to come home and deal with this.

But she won’t - because her children didn’t learn to be that selfish and oblivious to anyone else by accident, they were following the lead set by her.

AtrociousCircumstance · 07/08/2018 17:22

Find out how much a full deep clean costs and bill her that.

Viviennemary · 07/08/2018 17:26

Get in touch with your friends and say they must come home immediately. Drop the children off at their house and inform Social Services if the parents are not back within 24 hours. I bet they knew how difficult their children were.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 07/08/2018 17:27

The NSPCC and the government both advise that under 16s shouldn’t be left home alone over night. So posters can say ‘rubbish’ all you like but I personally believe it’s far too young

The 16 yo can look after her sister.

I wouldn't allow these two witches anywhere near my young family members. Knocking 3 and 4 year olds about and hurting/ upsetting them, even if accidental, shows that they aren't considerate, and don't care.

Foodylicious · 07/08/2018 17:29

Such an awful situation for you, and really feel for you having to deal with this.hiwever I would get in touch with the girls and tell them they can tonight and describe the conditions you and their mum have agreed to.

It's really shit for you, but I hate to think if the state/position the 14 yr old could get in to if out drinking with her sister and friends.
So very vulnerable.

Yes she has been an absolute, disrespectful little shit, but still so very very vulnerable.

SeaEagleFeather · 07/08/2018 17:29

they swore at my 4 year old because he was annoying them. When physically fighting with each other in front of 3 year they accidentally pushed her over onto the bench and cut her lip

tell her exactly this and text the photos of the damage. Explain you have to keep your very young children safe.

if she's any friend at all she'll completely understand and be horrified. If she isn't - well, that's that.

Foodylicious · 07/08/2018 17:30

Oh, and if course mum should be on her way hone to sort this, but does not sound like she is Confused

rainbowstardrops · 07/08/2018 17:30

Bloody hell. If they act like that in a guest's home then I dread to think what they're like in their own home!!!!
Having said that, if I knew my children would behave so appallingly then I wouldn't dare to inflict them on somebody else.
Where on earth did manners, respect and decency go?

LagunaBubbles · 07/08/2018 17:32

The NSPCC and the government both advise that under 16s shouldn’t be left home alone over night. So posters can say ‘rubbish’ all you like but I personally believe it’s far too young

But she wouldnt have been alone as her 16 year old sister would have been there.

OP your friend needs to come home but it is not your responsibility to worry about this, I take it this behaviour has came as a complete surprise to you, do you know if this is what they are generally like?

FuckPants · 07/08/2018 17:33

I'd have flung them out for ransacking the room, nevermind everything else they have done.

They sound like absolute cunts.

CrabbityRabbit · 07/08/2018 17:35

YADNBU.

The 16yo can be responsible for the 14yo.

Bet your mate just didn't want them trashing her own house. They will likely throw a house party.

MortyVicar · 07/08/2018 17:36

And anyway it's not about paying for the damage already done - it's what else they could do until mother comes home, and several more days of rudeness and disrespect. You don't have to put up with it and have every right to tell their mother so.

kateyjane · 07/08/2018 17:42

I would never leave my (sensible) DDs home alone at those ages. Completely irresponsible and sad. Especially if the younger one has anxiety, as well as the fact that they clearly fight with each other and don’t know how to behave in someone else’s house.

Having said that, I would find it very difficult to leave them home alone as I’d feel responsible. I’d probably end up sleeping at their house.

Awful position to be left in - hope that everything is resolved soon.

Bouncingbelle · 07/08/2018 17:48

Absolutely nbu to have kicked them out! I was a very anvious 14 year old who would have hated being left alone overnight but would have been fine with my 16 year old sister, or gone to yours but been so shy and quiet you wouldnt have known i was there!
The 14 year old has the 16 year old to look after her. There is NO way i would have them back - trying to bring other teenagers to your house?!?!
My mum & dad would have been on the 1dt flight home & i would have been in deep shit!

upsideup · 07/08/2018 17:51

It turns out they don't actually have a key to their own house, never did as friend (if I can call her that anymore) didnt want them to trash it, so the promise they would spend the day there was a lie.
If they don't find a friends house to sleep at tonight which they hopefully will and turn up here instead then I'm going to have to let them back in.

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