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Not loving my niece

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notthewhiterabbit · 02/08/2018 18:35

Sounds terrible but I don't feel a connection to my niece and it's not her fault at all. She is a cute little girl.
Background is I don't like sil very much for various reasons. She's quite selfish and has not treated DB well imo. Today, I'm visiting my mum and when arrived, I see that niece has been dropped off by DB before he went to work. While sil is going to have a "day off" (she doesn't work and hasn't had a job for years). My DCs played with her well and we had a nice day overall. But I resented having to looking after someone else's child on my day off. DM was preparing lunch and dinner etc and I ended up having to change niece's nappies and entertained her when my ones slept. We popped out for a walk and as her buggy was too heavy/ difficult to steer for DM so I ended up pushing it, in the heat.
I think I do love my niece but I don't seem to care for her as much as my other niece (DH's sister's dd). I'm not making that much effort to interact with her. What's wrong with me!?

OP posts:
garethsouthgatesmrs · 03/08/2018 00:15

imagine a scenario where your brother is divorced or widowed. Would you feel differently about this baby? Presumably you don't know how you would feel but from what you have written this is all about your SIL and not about the little girl at all.

The idea that you will instantly feel a bond is nonsense. In a lot of cases bonds are formed over time so just let it grow naturally. Perhaps you were at a different point in your life when your BIL's children were born. Perhaps your relationship with your BIL and SIL on DH's side made is easier to bond.

Don't think too much about it but accept that YABU for resenting a small child and also YABU for thinking SIL isn't entitled to a day off. Do you remember how relentless your maternity leave was? That is SIL's life!! Of course she may well be a nasty cow. Her baby girl definitely isn't!!

Billybanter · 03/08/2018 00:16

I think PPs are correct that your feelings towards your sil are tainting your view of your neice. Its not your DNs fault so try not to let it affect how you treat her.

IME one does have favourites and the annoying traits if children can seem more or less annoying dependent in your relationship with the parents.

This is a struggle for me just now and I feel guilty about it and have several times vowed to be a better ally to the parent and the child even though I wouldn't choose to spend time with either if we were not related.

LimeIce · 03/08/2018 00:30

If your brother is working such long hours then she is caring for the baby for long periods and it's fine for her to have a break from it whether or not you think it's deserved or whether you disapprove of her being given this break. When you had your year mat leave were you with the baby 24/7 and think she should be too?

Neverender · 03/08/2018 00:33

YABU - sorry

Lizzie48 · 03/08/2018 00:38

This is actually very sad and I don't see the point of the thread. I have 9 nephews and nieces, aged from 3-21. I love them all, because they are family, regardless of how I felt when they were babies. I was jealous of my BIL and SIL, because I was infertile whereas my SIL kept popping them out. But I didn't resent the DC. My DSis had 2 birth DC after really difficult pregnancies, she nearly died after her first, her DD, having suffered from pre-Enclampsia.

Feelings are meaningless. They're all individuals in their own right, and my DDs' cousins. I don't even think about how I feel now, I just think about how wonderful it is that my DDs have so many cousins, who they don't see as often as we would like, but they've had really lovely holidays with them.

Basically, it isn't about how you feel. They are family and you need to treat them all the same.

cheesemongery · 03/08/2018 00:42

I've only gotten to know my niece and my nephew more since my brother divorced his wife. She didn't like me, I wasn't her type of person, but she'd still say in wonder (with a dash of patronising) - how is it your kids are so chilled and well behaved? I don't know, we just take it as it comes... Whereas she was RIGID - timetables, feeding times, sleeping times, you name it, if she's read it in a book she was doing it. I remember seeing nephew with the most horrendous nappy rash because - well, it wasn't time to change him yet, or it's not my turn it's yours (brother). I didn't see my nephew again until he was 3 when they divorced and he came to our house and asked what my name was. A bit gutting but understandable. Of course I don't love them like my own, but I do love them. However, I can see OP's point, if ex SIL had done that - bearing in mind she didn't like me or my parenting skills then I would be a bit narked to say the least. My brother is now a fantastic 50% co-parent and I love seeing the kids when I can. But I do see OP's point. I would never resent the child, but I know full well ex-SIL never saw me as good enough for her children, so I would be a bit peeved with the situation.

garethsouthgatesmrs · 03/08/2018 00:48

cheesemongery you sound like you judge your ex SIL for parenting differently to you. Maybe that is why she didn't get on with you. I assume there is more to the story that just disagreeing with strict schedules. Not seeing your nephew for so long seems extreme because of contrasting parenting methods. Especially given you see yourself as the kind of parent who takes it as it comes.

From what the op has posted the SIL didn;t even know the OP was going to be there so you are projecting a bit I think.

cheesemongery · 03/08/2018 00:53

*cheesemongery you sound like you judge your ex SIL for parenting differently to you. Maybe that is why she didn't get on with you. I assume there is more to the story that just disagreeing with strict schedules. Not seeing your nephew for so long seems extreme because of contrasting parenting methods. Especially given you see yourself as the kind of parent who takes it as it comes.

From what the op has posted the SIL didn;t even know the OP was going to be there so you are projecting a bit I think.*

Not at all, my first was already 10 by the time they had their first.

They lived 3.5 hours drive south of us so distance was a factor, however she preferred to drive 5 hours north bypassing us and paternal grandparents to see her own.

So assume away, you know nothing.

cheesemongery · 03/08/2018 00:53

bold fail

DarklyDreamingDexter · 03/08/2018 01:02

It's not obligatory to love anyone else's children, just because they are related. My nephew (the only 'blood' niece or nephew I have) is a nice enough little boy but I don't feel any connection to him. Probably see him once every couple of years. Neither of my siblings have shown the least bit of interest in my children either.

You don't sound to have done anything wrong at all, as you helped take care of your niece when needed and you said no one would know you don't feel any real connection. Maybe the connection will grow if you nurture it? If you want to that is, it wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

cheesemongery · 03/08/2018 01:02

projecting much @garethsouthgatesmrs? I think you totally missed the point as well. Never mind.

OhFFSDH · 03/08/2018 01:19

Firstly, you DO resent this baby because of your SIL whether you want to accept it or not, it's why you don't and can't love your DN. That is what's shocking.

'I am nice to my niece. She wouldn't know anything was up'.
Kids always know. I have an aunt that's nice to me but I definitely know she doesn't like me or approve of my father.

'They struggle with money because of this and DB is working so hard on over time plus extra night jobs. He is exhausted and still comes home to do a lot of the bathing, feeding, cleaning and bed time. I don't want to delve in to this too much but I stand my ground on this one, no, her day off isn't well deserved.'
He sounds like a good father, getting quality time with his children whilst he can, whether that is forced upon him or he chooses so. It's definitely not your problem or business what they do. If he works overtime and night jobs she's caring for a child, you are hearing one side and blindly believing that to be the full picture. If someone asked my DH similar he'd say he does lots but he does average with a full time and part time job whilst I have been at home 24/7 with a cosleeping baby and no break at all. Whether I have done chores myself does not come into it as I've been raising a child on my own whilst he works. How they divide their labour is up to them, as family you will hear the worst but rarely the great things because we all need to vent sometimes.

had niece not been there, we would have had a very different (easy) day'
You just don't want to be around her because it's too difficult for you but if you tried more, perhaps in months to come you wouldn't feel the way you do.

'My DCs were looking forward to our day out but are lovely enough to understand.'
No, that is basic decency which you should teach them anyway. They should spend time getting to know their cousin because they, too, will pick up on this

'What some of you are saying, I don't deserve my day off. I was with an upset, crying baby that I had to soothe, which was hard work'
You deserve a day off but your DN also deserved that day with her DGM and is entitled to it as are your children. You wouldn't find it an issue if it were your other DN at that age, because you love her but also because she would have been more at ease where you put in the effort to spend time with herm

Lastly, your DB has told you she's having a "day off" but perhaps she was going to a serious appointment she didn't want to tell you about. I wouldn't tell you either!

I don't get on with my SIL but always offer to look after DN because I love her which has come from making an effort and not being able to deny love to a small, innocent baby who is not responsible for her mother's behaviour. Spend more time with your DN, work on being a better person by improving the relationships around you. Perhaps you could try to extend it to SIL too.

garethsouthgatesmrs · 03/08/2018 01:27

cheesemongery not trying to start an argument but you had a brother yet you blame the SIL for you not seeing your niece and nephew much until they dvorced. Why couldn't your brother speak up for you?

you accuse me of projecting but..l.
However, I can see OP's point, if ex SIL had done that - bearing in mind she didn't like me or my parenting skills then I would be a bit narked to say the least"

we don't know whether the OPs SIL has any opinion on her parenting skills. The granny was also looking after her son's baby. Its not just SIL to blame for this. Why are the brothers getting away scot free while the SIL's get all the blame?

garethsouthgatesmrs · 03/08/2018 01:28

haha we have something in common - failure to use asterisks correctly

kittymamma · 03/08/2018 01:42

OP - I get it. I really do understand. I have a very similar situation and it stems from feeling unwanted (for me).

I have tried to be really nice to my SiL, but she has upset everyone in my family and now everyone is scared of upsetting her because of what might happen as a result. I feel that my attempts to make a bond with the child are always met with reluctance from SiL (while encouraged by my brother) and as a result the bond doesn't seem worth it.

Perhaps you have this similar unease? I have tried anyway with my brother's child and I will continue to do. I think it is important because one day, in the distant future, she might really wish that she could go visit aunt Kittymamma like her other cousins do to escape her parents for a while!

WhiteDust · 03/08/2018 05:31

I get it OP.
It's supposed to be your day off work and on top of looking after your own DC, you end up looking after someone else's child too whilst her parent actually has a day off.

Your resentment is towards the main cater of this child (SIL) because she is off having a day to herself whilst your day has just been made more difficult. It is also towards your Mum who has made two lots of arrangements for the day. She's double booked you!

I agree that you are projecting this resentment onto your niece. You are trying to figure out why you don't WANT to look after her. I wouldn't mind betting that it's actually nothing to do with the child at all.
Your Mum has effectively volunteered you to (albeit joint) babysit your niece.

There's nothing wrong with wanting to spend time with your Mum and your own DC without any other arrangement taking precedence.
Ask her what babysitting duties she's arranged beforehand and see her when she's not already committed to your brother & SIL.

borntobequiet · 03/08/2018 05:49

It’s not obligatory to love nieces or nephews. Just to be nice to them and look after them if necessary while little.

polkadotpixie · 03/08/2018 05:56

I'm not sure why you're getting such a hard time tbh, it's not obligatory to love family members, even children!

I have a niece. I get on well with my sister and although not close to my BIL, we have no issues. I babysit my niece if asked, I buy her nice birthday and Xmas presents etc and play with her. She's a sweet, cute, funny child and I like her, I care that she's happy but I don't honestly think I love her, I just don't have that bond with her

I don't feel guilty for it either, it's just the way I am

polkadotpixie · 03/08/2018 05:59

I don't think my sister would be angry about that either tbh, she knows I care about my niece and would always take good care of her and try and make her happy when I look after her, I'm just not an emotional person in that sense, I find it hard to relate to people enough to love them

AjasLipstick · 03/08/2018 06:25

I don't think OP's unreasonable. I don't particularly like my nephew. He's only 4 but I feel little connection towards him.

No idea why....he's not a blood relative probably that's why. I don;t feel bad about it....I am nice to him and facilitate playdates for him as he loves my DC....they ARE related to him by blood so I would always encourage that.

But I'm not obligated to love him.

Hoppinggreen · 03/08/2018 09:19

I totally agree with OP
She was going to spend the day with her Mum and there’s a baby there, which changes things enormously
I remember being at MILs and I had a 4 year old and a 1 year old. 4 year old was playing nicely and my 1 year old was asleep. Me and DH were crashed out on the sofa and sil brought her 8 month old into the room and asked us to watch him while she did something ( can’t even remember what). DH picked up our nephew and took him back to his Mum and said no we weren’t doing it. Caused quite a row but I didn’t care then and I still don’t
If I get a break from my own kids I sure as hell wouldn’t be looking after anyone else’s, even if they are related( emergencies excepted)
Nobody is obligated to love anyone, especially if they are too young to even really have a personality yet that you can relate to. I like/ love people based on getting to know them not just because of genetics

CocoLoco87 · 03/08/2018 09:27

I understand it. I have 10 nieces and nephews and I'm not close to any of them. They love playing with my DC and vice versa, but I don't make any particular effort with any of them. I love them, but I am closer to one of my friends DC. And I feel resentful when DM can't help with childcare because one of the sils has got there first. I just think 'ask your own mum!' Oh well Grin

greenlynx · 03/08/2018 09:32

I think you were looking forward to your day off with your mother and then as it changed felt a little bit disappointed. Also your niece sounds younger then your children. You probably weren’t excited to go back to changing nappies and pushing pram on your day off as you had all these just recently with your own children. I don’t think it’s so awful, you probably don’t know your niece well enough that’s why you don’t feel connected. Of course, you should do an effort to know her but her parents are also responsible for facilitating her relationships with you so it’s 2 way street.

Redteapot67 · 03/08/2018 09:33

I think you should be cross with your mum not your sil

GreatDuckCookery6211 · 03/08/2018 09:34

But the OP has said she cares for her husbands sisters baby, so this isn't about someone not having to love or care about their nieces and nephews.

This is about someone not particularly caring for someone because you don't like their mum or dad.

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