Neighbour's toddler waking entire street up

[Myheadhurtsintheheat]

I've NC'd for this as it might be outing.

Our NDN has an 22-month-old DC who doesn't talk much but squawks like a parrot at top volume. I swear this is no exaggeration - it's the most bizarre noise. From what we can tell, toddler's parents never encourage him not to make the noise - they just let him squawk. I think they're from the "be expressive" school of thought.

My AIBU is that they're bringing him out into their back garden at 6.30am when he's up and he's squawking everyone awake, including my DC, whose room is at the back too. I get that it's very hot and really hard for kids to sleep at the moment, but isn't it incredibly selfish to inflict that noise on everyone else if you're not going to try to teach the child to moderate it when appropriate? Or am I just being a grumpy old moaner?

And if INBU, should I say something?

@formerbabe - your the only one

your the only one

Read back through the thread...I'm not.

I'd say 8am would be reasonable, not 6.30am.

Once when we were away, someone came and told me off for the kids making noise in the garden, at 8.30am on a weekend. I'd been up since 5.30am with them and had tried to keep them inside and quiet all that time on my own, and thought 8.30am was ok to go out and play. Later though, to his credit, he came back and apologised as he was hungover and thought it was much earlier in the morning when he shouted through the window!

Is it ok for my 12 year to do it formerbabe?

Interesting how many people obviously don't have any consideration for their neighbours in the garden according to this thread. We are retired now but when we had young children they weren't allowed to play outside and make a lot of noise early mornings, especially Sundays or late at night when they were teenagers and had friends over. I don't mow the lawn early in the morning or play loud music. Neither do our neighbours generally except one selfish family who also park inconsiderately, have their ghetto blaster going on a quiet Sunday afternoon. Nothing to do with the law. It is just rude people who are selfish. They are also the ones who would give you a mouthful back if you suggested they were being a touch inconsiderate.

It backfires of course because no one will take in parcels for them or water their plants or feed their cats if they are away. You reap as you sow.

actually you are - your the only one still going on that its ok - two other people have agreed with you - but hell of a lot more have disagreed. I think you should go back to reading up on the law you love going on about so much. - maybe pick a book on about being a decent neighbour and human being at the same time. good day.

I think it's very odd to put a toddler in the garden on their own at 6.30, regardless of squawking.

If it was just the noise of toddler playing/laughing/chattering, I might agree with you formerbabe. But as I said in my OP, this is squawking like a parrot. It's loud, it's continuous and it's waking my kids. But that's okay, right?

happypoobum They're not on their own. Parent is present.

Dear myheadhurtsintheheat,

I do sympathises, with what you were saying, as far as could UNDERSTAND it. You are using, far too many, abbreviations for us, relative 'Newbies' to understand. This point was made, on another 'Forum', that I belong to. Sorry but you 'lose' us, I'm aware that the more 'Established Members' understand but....we don't.

Another thought- have you actually spoken to the Parents, of this child? I only ask because they may NOT, believe it or not, be aware of just how Disturbing His/Her behaviour is being.

I hope you get this 'Sorted out' soon, for Everyone's sake.

AndrewT

Are you sure it's not ACTUAL parrot? Those parakeets wake me up around 5.30am. Awful.

My mistake

I read No, parent is with him playing. without the comma.

As you were.

It is a bit baffling until you understand the abbreviations, but hopefully you got the gist Andrewdavid1! But hopefully you got the gist.

Definitely not a parakeet, KaliforniaDreamz!

Now I'm repeating myself! Sorry.

Has anyone suggested ringing SS yet? This is Mumsnet afterall!

I'm sorry OP I know you're struggling, but the thought of a parrotesque toddler squawking and flapping in the back garden brightened my day.

I'm baffled by the thought that people think this is OK? Legally or not!

DH works shifts and his colleagues would love to come and see DS. DS equally loves seeing them... I'll have a reunion in our back garden at 4am when he finishes work because DS would enjoy it as that seems to fall into people's logic of thinking. If the kid wants to do it; that must be OK.

On the flip side of it, when does 'complete stranger's' suffering come into play? DH is a police officer and if this was going on he wouldn't be able to sleep and it could put both his and other people's lives at risk.

Also, DS can have stress/fatigued induced seizures, if he hadn't slept at night and was woken up with little - no sleep regularly he could die. Where do his needs come in? But fucks to consideration!

Let's have a 6:30am garden gathering because why the hell not!

We have a neighbour who allows their dog to bark really early too.
Oh and another neighbour who like to enjoy very european style al fresco breakfast of fruit and bloody yogurt at 8am ON A WEEKEND and they're all REALLY LOUD.

@Andrewdavid1

You are using, far too many, abbreviations for us, relative 'Newbies' to understand. This point was made, on another 'Forum', that I belong to. Sorry but you 'lose' us, I'm aware that the more 'Established Members' understand but....we don't

You may find these links useful

www.mumsnet.com/info/talkinstructions

especially this one www.mumsnet.com/info/acronyms

I do sympathises, with what you were saying, as far as could UNDERSTAND it. You are using, far too many, abbreviations for us, relative 'Newbies' to understand. This point was made, on another 'Forum', that I belong to. Sorry but you 'lose' us, I'm aware that the more 'Established Members' understand but....we don't

So the onus would be on you to check the acronym list. That’s what it’s there for!

Oh ivenoideawhatimdoing, your post has cheered me up no end . Now if only I could cheer up my tired and irritable DC...

Jesus no wonder there are such badly behaved kids around these days! The noise and behaviour some parents think is ok at my work is appalling and its clearly widespread.

This child does not have a 'need' to be outside at 6.30.
No toddler has rights above anyone else nor the right to make anyone elses lives miserable get over yourselves .

@myheadhurtsintheheat I'm glad to hear it! Sorry you're in the shitter, hopefully it's just a brief faze... head above water - this too shall pass.

If it doesn't, lean out your back window blowing a kazoo at bedtime!

When my little darlings play in the garden early evening it starts off beautifully then of course descends into screeching and whining so at that point i bring them inside as i don't want to distrub the toddler next door going to bed.

They will feed my cat when i go away so i must be gettig it right.

(i have SOME lovely neighbours)

I love how a man comes to a predominantly female website then complains we're doing things wrong...