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Mil keeps asking and asking

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Stormi12 · 27/07/2018 07:07

Mil has recently been begging to provide full time child care when I go back to work and even suggested she and fil take my 6 month old out by themselves. I do not like them. I do not want them around my child. Why on earth they think I’d let them take the baby out is beyond me.

Aibu to keep visits as a family as opposed to providing alone time?

OP posts:
karyatide · 31/07/2018 10:39

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MrsAidanTurner · 31/07/2018 10:41

Isn't obligated and should never ever have too. It's appalling pressure to pile on someone. Ex ex

MrsAidanTurner · 31/07/2018 21:41

justinonmybroomstick

That's soo beautiful and how I would feel too. I too cannot imagine being desperate to get baby alone??!

My dm felt the same she only saw her then only gc twice I think but it was seeing him with her son that made her swoon.

My Mil can't wait to get rid of us. It is weird isn't it!!

Stormi12 · 01/08/2018 05:35

I appreciate all the comments thus far

To describe a bit more about mil... she’s the type of person where, for example, if she gets a card from someone at work, or her other sons girlfriend, she’ll share it with me and it’s filled with “oh you’re the best yada Yada” type stuff; whereas my personality would be to keep my cards private and not “gloat”. She thinks she is the perfect mother figure; but her middle child has failed to launch and my husband really has trouble setting boundaries. I am weary that her guilt and manipulation tactics will be used not only on my husband and I as my child grows older.... but she may also use it on him (oh how come you don’t want to give nanny a kiss. Nanny is so sad you can’t come for dinner etc)

By keeping visits as a family I can know exactly what is being said to my child without any of the manipulation she employs against her entire family.

OP posts:
Stormi12 · 01/08/2018 05:37

There is a fil. He knows his wife is overbearing and sometimes has to reign her in. He’s good at saying okay time to go.

He’s bad in that we’ve gotten “would it kill you to call your mother” lectures from him... when my husband calls at LEAST once a week. So fil is a hit and miss kinda guy.

BIL is awesome. He gives zero fucks sometimes and just does his own thing.

SIL .... worse than mil herself.

OP posts:
Lizzie48 · 01/08/2018 07:41

By keeping visits as a family I can know exactly what is being said to my child without any of the manipulation she employs against her entire family.

This. I really understand what you mean, @Stormi12 it's the same for me with my DM. Sad

Lizzie48 · 01/08/2018 07:41

Excuse me, bold fail! Grin

SnuggyBuggy · 01/08/2018 08:38

They actually sound a lot like my late grandparents. My nan was always trying to get between her grandchildren and their mothers. Like you say you really can't give an inch.

wait68 · 01/08/2018 15:34

From the short and quick answers here leaning towards unwanted MIL 'help',it appears that everyone here is a MIL and resents their DIL.

ILoveHumanity · 03/08/2018 11:16

parteesss
I completely understand where you are coming from, but in the Ops defence , I also think she is not in the position to manage other people.

If her DH wanted his children to have very tight relationship with his mother then he is the one that needs to manage it and learn how to assert her when she is being given an inch.

The OP shouldn’t have to think about different ways to teach her mil how to behave respectfully. The Op isn’t obliged to be top toeing around grandmother.

It is sad on mil... but that’s why she should’ve realised that manipulating her kids into submission will only backfire.. good parents accept a conversation where each party expresses their needs without being guilt tripped. She should care about what works for her son and his family.

She should be ok with the fact that her son has a preference of his child not being kissed on the lips. She should be ok with a mother who doesn’t feel ready being seperated from her child

The fact she is so dismissive ... says a lot about her.

It is also sad on OP as I am sure she would’ve preferred to have a mother in law who can be tight grandmas with her dc without having to make her feel at risk.

So emotions aside, why should it be OPs responsibility to manage MIL?

If anything, OP is the new mother, her MIL should “manage” OPs ups and downs now. So I would give OP all the slack she needs to grow her bond as a new mother.

I can’t help but sense a huge amount of bias

ILoveHumanity · 03/08/2018 11:26

I still think OP is giving more than an inch by visiting at least once a week and going holidays with then. I think she is doing a pretty good job..

But yes I can see that both OP and I don’t want for our kids a 1-on-1 relationship with grandma that excludes mum ... for the very reason that we are afraid that she would utilise that privilege to manipulate the child.

I’m sure the OP has to live the damage of seeing the effect that manipulation had on her grown husband..

If only there was a way to help nurture an assertive self-aware child that won’t be manipulated by tears or sweats. But there isn’t is there ?

So it’s an unfortunate position that a child would need to be protected.

Causing emotional conflict for the child about loyalties between grandma and mother is abusive in itself .. mother comes first and if the grandma can’t see that then, it’s a necessary evil to kick her out of that dynamic.

Sorry to all you grandmas out there but I would’ve thought it all bloody obvious that a child’s mum is more important for the child than anyone else ... especially at this dependant stage and even later on

LoveInTokyo · 03/08/2018 12:20

I can't believe the OP is still banging on about this.

She's probably missed several key milestones in her baby's development whilst she's been furiously hammering away on her phone telling all of Mumsnet how evil her MIL is.

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Bluelady · 03/08/2018 12:21

😂

MinaPaws · 03/08/2018 12:27

Wow, I would have given anything for a grandparent who wanted to be involved, who was proud of her grandchild enough to want her friends to meet them, who was so generous with her time that she offers full time child care, and love dmy babies enough to kiss them on their gloopy mouths. None of that sounds like the MiL bitch from hell to me. My parents showed very little interest in my kids or my sisters. We really struggled as htey lived close by but swanned around, calling us at inconvenient times to regale us with stories of parties they;d been to. They babysat less than a handful of times in DCs entire life and never had them over night. Never even offered. And DH's parents lived far away. I dreamed of a M-i-L like yours.

headinhands · 03/08/2018 12:27

*Mumsnet - where mother in laws are hated!

Watch out mothers of boys, you'll have daughters in law who hate you.*

I know. What is it? You don't get men complaining about their father-in-laws with the same wall to wall frequency. What is it? It makes women look petty and immature.

LoveInTokyo · 03/08/2018 12:42

Not very edifying, is it, headinhands?

Raspberry88 · 03/08/2018 13:08

The OP isn't 'still banging on', she hasn't posted in days..! We have to hope that she's feeling ok tbh after all of the nasty comments on here!

LoveInTokyo · 03/08/2018 13:24

Tbh I think she could do with taking a long hard look at herself, but judging by the fact that she has kept this up for 35 pages and apparently not taken on board anything anybody else has said, I have my doubts.

SnuggyBuggy · 03/08/2018 13:43

No one has to take on board online comments they don't agree with.

LoveInTokyo · 03/08/2018 13:48

If you don't want to take on board online comments you don't agree with, don't post in AIBU. It's a waste of your time and everyone else's.

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EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 03/08/2018 13:48

Bathing children is often fun

We used to get sat in the kitchen sink im sure we spent far more time in there than necessary as we had such a good time lots of photos to prove it

Grandparents can bring such joy to a child’s life ok she isn’t perfect who is but to deny this relationship becuase you don’t like her is mean

She sounds like an adoring proud granny who desperately wants to bond and spend time with her grandchild their is nothing strange about that and your child may actually and probably will love that time being totally indulged (that’s what happens) and may form a wonderful loving relationship which they will cherish

I don’t have a good relationship with my mum at all (selfish, manipulative) but her relationship with ds is different and he is apple of her eye they have a close bond which is special and important to him

ILoveHumanity · 03/08/2018 14:09

loveintokyo

I think you have posted more times on this thread than the OP.

Hope you haven’t missed out on your kids milestones either ! Or let’s say, grandkids.

atotalshambles · 03/08/2018 14:18

I think some MILs (and DMs) struggle let go of the control they had over their children's lives and want to continue 'calling the shots' with their grandchildren's lives.

My in-laws can be very difficult and the only way to maintain an ok relationship with the strict boundaries.

SnuggyBuggy · 03/08/2018 14:28

Asking for advice doesn't oblige you to take it.

LoveInTokyo · 03/08/2018 14:28

I haven't posted since Saturday when I got bored and went off to drink wine in the sunshine. Was just amazed to see this thread still going on the front page.

Hope you haven’t missed out on your kids milestones either ! Or let’s say, grandkids.

Literally no danger of that whatsoever. Wink