To be upset that the NHS 'pay raise' has cost me a grand?!

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Just this.

My pay is £86 down this month. That's £1,032 a year. What a lovely reward for a decade of service.

I'm glad I voted no. Sorry NHS staff hate to strike.

My husband is a band 1 porter on barely more than minimum wage - we think he's had an increase of almost £80 per month which is enormous for us. I'm sorry for people who have lost out, but glad that people in the very lowest salaries are being acknowledged like this.

I'm paying in what seems like a fortune in NHS pension costs and have been for over five years.My pension estimate at the moment is £600 per year approx. I must have paid in thousands but the pension I will get at the end is starting to seem like its not worth it.

My payroll says the link is correct and the only table which is right.

If this is correct I should have stayed a band 5, I have been a band 6 for 8 months on increment 23 but top band 5 now gets paid more than this point.

This is exactly what junior doctors were say but the news papers and the generally dim general public belived they were complaining of a 23% pay raise (ignoring the fact they were in fact losing 40% annaul pay in the form of removed preium pay for night shifts un social hours).

All the public saw was 23% pay raise doctors strike for poor pay.....

40% pay cut balanced by a 23% pay raise = a 17% pay cut in real terms...

£12 extra in this pay- £144 per year!!! Gee...thanks!

Totally agree it is unfair. And of course it has been spun to the public as a pay rise so there is little sympathy. Plus HCPs are all angels so should do the job for the love anyway (or devils who shouldn’t get paid at all) it seems .

YY worriedmum, although I’m not a doctor that was one of the many, many reasons I supported the strike. The government went for them first so then GPS, nurses and midwives could be next.

I've looked on the NHS pay calculator today (not the RCN one ) and my pay I received this month is around £1000 less! I was point 2 in my band but I've now gone into starting salary so where I was expecting a pay rise of around £1000+ I've actually only got about half of that, about 1.5% of my salary.

That’s pretty much the situation I’m in, but on a lower banding, rupert. If it’s pushed me over a threshold somewhere I might actually cry.

On the bright side, at least I don’t have to worry about informing tax credits about my increase in income. 😂

I’m outraged about this. I’ve left the RCN and joined unison. Utter total ducked over. Again.
(And I wholeheartedly agree with Midwives being apathetic all talk and no bollocks). I am cross

Sounds like they’re taking you the way of the civil service. The grades in civil service had increments taken away a bit over 10 years ago. So I’m paid, with several years in role, what someone promoted yesterday is paid. But, if you already massively up the increments you maintained that even if you’re on a performance management plan.

This was brought into sharp relief when a senior manager took me to one side and said ‘you should feel obliged to help x and x so much, they’re paid over £10k a year more than you.’

Sigh.

*shouldn’t

@Shiphra Unison were just as bad and their calculations totally wrong.

The trouble is though that strike action doesn’t seem to help so I can understand why people are all talk.

The junior doctor strike was certainly the biggest and most successful strike action in my time in the NHS with relatively big public support but in the end they didn’t ‘win’ and in general couldn’t get enough public support. Although did they prevent a worse deal by striking so successful in some way? Hard to know.

Mother - at least they balloted their members

And I need someone to back me up if/when I need it. And I’m pissed off with RCN.

I’m wondering how the fuck the unions got this so wrong, m0therofdragons.

Nothing I looked at before hand gave the figures that NHS employers link is giving.

Makes you wonder doesn’t it Rafals.

I'm a bit confused - you say you used to go up an increment (about £800) in recognition of experience each year. But I thought there had been a pay cut for ages and therefore no yearly increments added?

Tbh, a lot of blame is put onto the government for the state of the nhs ( and possibly rightly so), but I think certain nhs staff members need to look closer to home to see where the real inefficiencies lie.

Youknow Increments don't count as pay rises. It has been shit for everyone, but better for public sector than private sector.

In the NHS, pay increases have theoretically been pegged at 1 per cent. But a recent Centre for Policy Studies report showed that mean wage growth between 2012 and 2017 was actually about 2.7 per cent, thanks to progression pay, compared with 2.1 per cent in the private sector.

As of 2016-17, average weekly earnings in the public sector were 4 per cent lower in real terms than in 2007-8. That has hardly been pleasant for those workers. But private sector wages, on the same measure, were 5 per cent lower.

Unions have messed up big time. HR only discovered the issue end of last week!

I’ll say again. All increments do is guarantee cheaper staff for a number of years. If increments were removed entirely everyone wouldn’t be paid the lowest figure in each band.

I thought there was between and £200 to £800 depending on scale a one off payment? We get paid on the 24th in our trust - I’m top band 6;- can see I got anything actually.
Has anyone got a link to the original offer. Unison ain’t much better. In our trust the Unison rep is employed by the trust!!!
We have been mis sold.