To be upset that the NHS 'pay raise' has cost me a grand?!

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Just this.

My pay is £86 down this month. That's £1,032 a year. What a lovely reward for a decade of service.

I'm glad I voted no. Sorry NHS staff hate to strike.

£14.54 better but does include the backdated from April?

Always get paid on the 27th. Pay slips out the day before.

I’m NHS and don’t get paid until Tuesday next week, absolutely dreading what my pay packet is going to be now!

We get paid on the 28th. Or closest working day.

I’m not with RCM/N, I’m with unison. They haven’t even had the decency to apologise.

It really is total shit. I'm very angry on behalf of you all.

And it's a pretty rare nurse who's drawing a £40k pension.

Babyroobs, your colleague is mistaken, or you have misunderstood, her pension might be based on her final salary, but it won't be the same amount (by a long way) as her ACTUAL final salary.

This is what happens when you have state monopolies. If there was a thriving private sector they wouldn't do this because they would know that it would likely result in a lit if staff cheerily fucking off to a different employer. You have my deepest sympathies. What a shit position to be in

Anyone not nhs, they released a pay calculator but then provided a new one this week and that's when many found out they've been totally missold! I have gone up £20 a month (definitely not the 3% promised!) but colleague one tier up from me on the same banding is £40 worse off.

That’s awful about losing increments and even worse that nobody knew about it. However, the increases in contributions and tax apply to everyone e in a pay increase tips you over the threshold. Still, better off should mean better off in your pocket not on paper.

l am retired after 37 years and my OH is about to retire after 44 years all in the NHS. If nurses took strike action the likes of The Daily Mail and Express would spin the pay story against us and soon have the country against us. They would wheel some retired dementing Matron out telling everyone how its a vocation etc etc and nurses today our not of the calibur of her generation etc etc. If you do not believe me look what happened to the junior doctors. Public backing didn't last long My son and daughter in law left for a country that gave them a work life balance, pay was only a small part. Supplementary fact my dil is from Germany - some of the public felt free to comment on this.So UK is 2 doctors less - thanks Brexit !

Baby there are still staff who were on the old (brilliant) pension scheme.

Commutation payments of £120k + £30k+ a year pension are not uncommon at all.

Those of us on AFC are not on anything like that. I am 10 yrs in, work part time and if I cashed out today I'd get £472 per year pension when eligible

Best way of telling goverment how nurses feel and potentional NHS staff is by voting with their feet and leaving or not applying

The NHS must be about the last place in the UK with annual increments - everywhere else dumped them years ago.

mags2024. This is happening. I left recently, the hospital where I worked has something like 400 nurse vacancies. Applications for nursing degrees are down by over 30%. The nhs is heading at a rapid speed for a major crisis.

Well I agree the nhs should have dumped the increments years ago.

It’s disgusting that a NQ nurse should have to start on 21k, totally agree that it would be much better if they were scrapped and nurses just started (and stayed at) on 28k.

cdtaylornats the use of increments means that the NHS gets 10 years of cheap labour until someone reaches the top of their band... by which time they’re so disillusioned with the state of play they leave and the cycle starts with another bright eyed and bushy tailed recruit.

They can't afford to dump increments and why would they? A nurse with ten years experience should be rewarded for that.

I love my job. I never wanted to do anything other than nursing. If I was 18 now there’s not a chance in hell I’d do my training. We’ve been royally fucked left right and centre over this “pay” deal.

I was being a bit sarcastic. The people who shout that nhs staff are lucky to have increments of course always assume if there weren’t increments staff would be at the bottom of the band.....was just trying to point out why not at the top of the band?

Of course staff should be rewarded for experience and skills they gain. Unlike the private sector you can’t jump ship to a competitor offering a better wage or negotiate a pay rise like my dh can.

When I was a new band 6 midwife I was at the point of registration only from a skills point of view.

I then did my mentorship qualification, I learnt to cannulate, I learnt to suture, I learnt to do IVs, neonatal IVs, I did a HDU course, I needed less support, I could co-ordinate the postnatal Ward, could support more junior staff, could coordinate life and death emergencies. This took years of experience and study. So yes as your skills go up so should pay.

I used to work in the private sector and never had a job where the expectations placed upon you would increase over the years when technically it was still the same job. In the private sector when I was in the same job for a few years I was still pretty much doing on my last day what I was doing on my first day. Not the case in the nhs.

Fairly low down band 5 here and am about 20 pounds a month better off. No where near what early indications have given about how quickly my pay would progress.

Some people who have seen their pay increase will also see their % pension contributions go up too as those threasholds haven’t changed.

I just left the NHS after 35 years and am working in the private sector. The NHS can go to blazes for all I care, I'm sick of their shit.

Goodness me, I could cry for you. I understood the pay scales to mean that wherever you were you would get a raise. I don't see how you cant, this is horrendous. I really hope the shit hits the fan and it makes the news tomorrow.

I am used to looking at incremental pay scales in my job, DD is a newly qualified HCP, I thought you would be ok, at least a bit ok.

So are you not top of band six or top of band five. This can't be right. I am so angry for you and I don't work in the NHS.

I’m top increment band 6 what does it mean for my pay

£55 better off a month here

Can anyone explain what has actually happened that people are worse off?!
Have people been moved down a pay point?

Wheretgeresawill me too ^