4per cent of new dads have post natal depression

[longwayoff]

Says LBC quoting a Stanford University study. Expert currently pointing out that as pnd is female hormone related, its unlikely to be pnd. What does mumsnet think? Personally I have a cynical eyebrow raised.

If you genuinely gave birth, describe to me what happened?
In detail, don't be shy, this is mumsnet after all

You what? Detailed public explanation on giving birth just to be believed by a random stranger? No lol.
People are allowed to disagree with you without automatically being a bloke.

Seriously I wish you well

Yeah, and this woman could but really doesn't want to as you're obviously adamant I'm a bloke as I think differently to you - not everyone spills everything personal on the internet at the drop of a hat or because they've been told they must justify themselves.
As I said upthread, if you don't believe I'm female and must be a bloke in disguise for disagreeing with you, get MN to check me out. Been on here and active for years.

Not even worth replying to that comment, shows you're not bothered and don't even read previous comments and are just out for a reaction.
New dads should be able to access mental health facilities too on having a baby, I don't see it as a competition as to who does or doesn't get to call it what.

I never denied new dads deserve mental health treatment all I've said is it's not the same as post natal depression. Ever heard of gaslighting....yeah you are that dickhead like I said, we see you

I'll say it one last time 4% of men do not get PND, 4% of men can't cope with the fact that they are no longer the object of your affection, they feel threatened. As for the other 96% just normal dads, just normal human beings.

What's this mean then? On one hand you say men deserve mental health treatment but on the other you say the 4% of men who do suffer is because it's because they're no longer an object of your affection, ie not real. The other 96% not suffering are normal.
Unless you meant something different to that?
Your posts read like you have some real men issues and it's not just about PND posts.

As I said, get MN to check me out, females are allowed to disagree with you.

As I said. If you genuinely think I'm male as you keep saying, ask MN.
Report.
Actually have no idea what you're going on about now, seems like a derailment. Men get depressed and down after childbirth and should never feel like they shouldn't ask for help or ridiculed or that it'll be minimised.
If you need help, ask for it. Regardless of whether male or female.

Contradiction
I don't care if you are male or female
we all know a man pretending to be female is a massive red flag

As I said, if you're so adamant I'm male report to MN to check out as I've been here years posting and most definitely female.
You're making no sense and ranting at someone who dared to say that they think men are entitled to mental help after birth of their child too and should be able to access it regardless of what name it is given.

It’s not PND although I’ve never seen my DH anything like he was Day 8 of Child No 3. I was struggling in a way I hadn’t before and he just folded and cried. I was a bit pissed off tbh as I figured if there was any a time for one of us to fold and cry, that should have been my time. He was fine by Day 9 —because I yelled at him—

Strikeout fail....

Atnough now I’ve read the thread, I wish I hadn’t posted. Autistic?!! Wtf?!

I was diagnosed with PND when my baby was 8.5 months old. Was sent to counselling and eventually did a quick course of citolapram after 3 years. DH could easily have gone down the same route.

I believe there is a difference between what women suffer immediately post partum and what women and men suffer later on. My experience shows me that there is more research to do and hopefully in years to come all parents will have access to the support they need.

Wow, this thread went to an ugly place last night. Shocking.

Wow, this thread went to an ugly place last night.

Yep, Redbriefcase kind of jumped the shark there. Ah well, people can log in this morning and see what an utter arse she has made of herself.

Woah.... different people have different opinions on this obviously! Just because their opinion is different doesn’t make them a man!

Or autistic...

Have we agreed that men cannot suffer from PND specifically but can and do suffer from mental health problems after the birth of a baby and that needs to be acknowledged and taken seriously? Or are we still in the "of course men get PND-in fact it's probably worse for them than it is for women , the poor dears...." phase?