Mature escort

[jazzyfizzles]

Just after people's opinions on how they'd feel living opposite a very busy adult escort. Living in a quiet cul de sac but our house is the only one that would directly be able to see what's going on (worked it out when off on maternity leave before baby was here, lots of time on my hands!)

why don’t people make that suggestion when the “nice” mum down the road starts her own cake business

To be clear, I think everyone should pay their taxes - be they a small business or global conglomerate. The HMRC are very happy to check up on any tip-off (be it a cake stall or an international chain shops selling over-priced coffee). I suggested this as a matter of course IF the OP wanted to check her neighbour had the correct permission to run this business (all perfectly legal) and I would sufgest the same if we were talking about a child-minder who had given a neighbour at least some cause for concern.

I also suggested calling the Slavery helpline if OP felt the woman might be doing this work against her will. It's just a couple of steps that will mean she might be left alone sooner.

Francine it’s fine.... I’m not having a go at you. You do seem very well informed. I just find some of the comments boggling. Some people are just unable to keep an open mind where sexual matters are concerned.

Oh, I'm with Francine. I think everyone should pay or at least be registered to pay taxes. Yes, it's a pain, but so are lots of things. There's a person locally who was openly admitting they weren't registered because it's just a bit extra - yea extra from Avon, Ann Summers, Body Shop parties and a few more. All this will mount up, and of course, now they have a massive bill to pay that they moan about to everyone.

And if anyone believes a sex worker or any worker for that matter is being exploited damn right they should report.

IgamOgamJones

Your posts are the most misogynistic I have read in a long time. Is it all women that you hate or just the ones who make decisions that you wouldn't?

"A spunk receptacle"? That's an obscene way to talk about any woman...how dare you? Are you a spunk receptacle? If you've fucked a man without condoms then you must be.

Oh, oh wait.....but he WUVS U ❤️❤️❤️

See, that's what turns a woman from a "spunk receptacle" into a - what? A precious, beloved, strong "I'm Every Woman" receiver of life juice? Am I right?

I suppose I must be because, following your logic, it's how the man thinks & feels that determines the value of a woman's sexual reponse & actions.

Who decided that the female sex act has to be all about "love"? Who decided that women can't have sovereignty over their own bodies...that if they open their legs for money rather than "love" or "attraction" or "desire" they are empty whores?

Wouldn't be a MAN who decided that, would it?

I have something rather shocking to tell you...are you sitting down? Not all women feel that sex is a precious gift to be shyly offered to a suitor. Quite a lot feel that it can be a bit of physical exercise without any emotional add-on. They feel if they can get £100 for half an hour of physical exercise, then why shouldn't they? It's certainly better paid than nost other things they could be doing.

Only desperate women do it? No. This is very obviously not the case.

It's certainly true that women (and some men) who ARE desperate will find themselves selling sex when they don't want to...of course it is. It's easy, quick money. Such people should be protected from feeling they have to prostitute themselves by sorting out the issues in society that, they feel, are forcing them into it...and in this country, that is almost always drugs. Yet another reason why we should consider legalising them.

I am an adult woman, not starving or homeless, with a perfectly functional brain - if I decide to give a man a blow job for £50, exactly how is that your fucking business? How DARE you decide to take it upon yourself to demean me with your obscene labels?

And referring to slavery as a "profession" is despicable and idiotic. Read a history book once in a while.

Vasha

You are "sick" of being told it's "legal"? How odd that you would be "sick" of hearing the truth. I rather think that demonstrates your agenda...to rant and rail, rather than exercise a bit of thought.

Although what the logical link is between you deciding to be "offended" and the legality of the thing that offends you I have no idea. Maybe you are just so far up your own arse that you truly believe your own opinion is more important than any facts?

Prostitution in this country IS legal. If that "offends and disgusts" you, I have a very simple solution for you...don't be a prostitute.

By the way....brothels, trafficking & pimping are illegal. But the exchange of money between a man and a woman (or a man and a man, woman or a woman) planning on having sex is perfectly legal. And if anyone can come up with any reason why it shouldn't be that does not involve taking ownership of another person's thoughts, feelings I would love to hear it.

If you take away the sex part of it this is what you are left with -
A person providing a service for another person in exchange for cash.

Isn't that the basic principle of any employment? A service provided in exchange for cash or other goods. Just I choose my own hours, and I don't have to be nice to the potential customer, I can, unlike a store working dealing with a difficult customer, say fuck off mate I'm not serving you. So who is empowered there?

It's the "we know better" attitude of IgamOgamJones, Vashna and others that gets me. Even when 98% of sex workers in Ireland told the government that they opposed the Nordic model (decriminalise the sale of sex, criminalise its purchase) because it does not work and sends prostitution further underground (according to Amnesty International and many other independent bodies) - it got pushed through by the "we know better" brigade regardless of what sex workers themselves were saying.

@FrancinePefko42 Exbloodyactly! All these people who supposedly know better go by these hashed up statistics and articles that are put out there by people who oppose prostitution and do not get to know the real people who work in this industry whether it is freewill or by need i.e streetwalkers.

Everybody tends to ignore the fact that if they worked with those in the trade to identify sex trafficking it would be a lot more productive in getting to the people who exploit those in need. And hopefully get to sort out this mess of trafficking people for a whole lot of reasons ie. domestic slavery, sex etc.

But no what woman in her right mind would want to do this willingly. I have many friends in the industry, I am an ex sex worker and let me tell you one thing you naysayers are doing us more harm than any good. How about you actually start working towards getting to the traffickers and stop penalising women with freewill.

So much for Feminism when you are dictating to a woman how she should live her life just because you as an individual do not agree with it. Shame on you! This is why I do not support feminism you do more harm than any good.

beaverhausen I don’t think feminism has anything to do with it. I think there’s a certain type of person that seems to assume that they’re more enlightened than the rest of the world. Anyone who disagrees is just shot down. Of course that includes even sex workers who are living the life first hand. I used to be like that somewhat until my friend made me realise that my “ poor prostitutes” attitude was a product of my middle class privilege.... and arrogant to boot. I hope I’ve shed that now. I would certainly want to help any person trapped in that life but I also know that collectively sex workers have a voice and an opinion worth listening to.

This thread comes up on Reddit where it’s suspected as being manipulated by an “Adultwork troll”. There have been a few similar threads lately. I really don’t wish to be patronising, so please don’t take it that way, but you can never be sure that anyone is who they say they are in here, so please be careful not to pander to this agenda.

Pander to what agenda?
To let sex workers do their trade without idiot, abusive neighbours wanting to commit criminal acts. Which considering how many punters are in the legal profession, would be very interesting.

Or to shoot down the sex workers for the dirty sluts they are? Who are nothing better than cum containers and who don't know their own mind and are forced into?

Wow, you seem to have far too much time on your hands OP. I would hate to have you as a neighbour a lot more than a mature sex worker.

Vashna So let’s get this correct.... there is a thread on Reddit which has been discussing this thread? Yes? And on it some of the posters have expressed concern about the real identity of some of the posters on here. It is their belief that they are pretending to be sex workers in order to promote a positive image of prostitution. ( and I guess you are inferring they’re men) Right oh well what a load of crap. Firstly 1) what sub thread is this Reddit thread on because I’m stunned that you would stumble upon it accidentally 2) How would anyone know the identity of any posters on here ? What magic powers has anyone at Reddit got to determine whether any poster is legitimate or not. If anyone’s a troll why must it be them. Could it perhaps be you? 3) why would you assume that a persons opinion would be so readily swayed by a comment on an internet site? My deeply head beliefs are not easily swayed by a comment. People can read the thread and make up their own mind.

Vashna I apologise if that comes across as a personal attack on you it wasn’t intended as that. It’s just you have been vociferous throughout this thread regarding your opinions on sex work and when subsequently challenged by “ alleged” sex workers your response is to imply they must be trolls. ( and we are naive to be sucked in by them). It’s a very cheap and quite frankly transparent attempt to undermine someone’s contribution. They might be fake, I might be fake, you might be fake - none of us know.

The feeling is mutual temptress

Vashna let me take it all back.

It’s the OP accused of being a troll on Reddit. Apparently it’s the comment about them doing their trousers up that did it. Who knows? Maybe. Well if nothing else I’ve enjoyed an interesting debate.

I don't even know what reddit is, not a very good troll, clearly!

nibblingandbiting

If you take away the sex part of it this is what you are left with -
A person providing a service for another person in exchange for cash.

You can't possibly be making a free choice ...y'know cos Patriarchy. You are a VICTIM and need to be LIBERATED.

jazzy it’s just another online forum but there are lots of sub threads on different topics. I don’t know why anyone would discuss a MN thread on there but hey I guess every topic is open to debate.

I am sure my old next door neighbour did this also, she had a rich married man that kept her as the bit on the side but there were often other men and cars there. However totally none of my business, it didn't interfere with our family, she was a really lovely woman and we got on well.

No worries Spirited. That “MN trolls” sub forum is not one I read regularly, but there are some quite “famous” MN trolls and when certain themes crop up regularly on MN in a given period, I just wonder what they’re saying about it. For instance there’s the poo troll who will sound like a very convincing mum complaining, for instance, that her DH has an aversion to changing nappies or something. Basically it’s “children’s bums and poo - discuss...” Or there’s the school uniform troll who appears under the guise of an outraged parent ranting about skirt lengths or something from time to time. Or there is a “Maui troll” who makes up ridiculous international sagas. There is also a troll who presents “dilemmas” about 18 year olds dating 40 year olds, again presenting very convincingly as a concerned mum or neighbour. Recently, there have been a few threads which seem to incite this kind of debate on prostitution. I have no idea about this particular thread, how can you ever be sure who is behind a keyboard, but I do wonder about an agenda. Are they trying to encorage prostitutes to rave about their work and hopefully divulge some choice details designed to “shock” the oh-so-boring mums of MN? Are they trying to wind up mothers with the insinuation that hookers are literally everywhere and everyone’s husband is at it and if we’re not cool and down with this we are somehow hysterical lunatics? I don’t know, but I doubt all is quite as it seems on here because I reckon at least half of MN is made up.

I wholeheartedly agree with your last sentence there, Vashna

Fake news?

Ok a poo troll? Well everyday is a school day. I at least am as I have said. Currently working on my laptop at home because I spent too long today fannying about on MN to actually work. ( yes I know.... you all pay my wages. Well probably not the prostitute across the road.... we all know she’s not )

Oh I see. Well I'm not one, but I suppose it'd be easy for me to say that. Just genuinely interested in people's opinions (not the rude, unnecessary ones).
Like I said, the most concerning part for me is the clientele of men, and I'll be honest I've not read a lot of the comments because there's a lot!
I guess I'm maybe overthinking things, and as a first time mum just want to provide the very best for my dd, this coupled with anxiety just prompted me to ask the question to make sure I'm not being too OTT. So thanks everyone (most of you)

@SpiritedLondon you are right not all feminists feel that way. :)