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Mature escort

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jazzyfizzles · 15/07/2018 10:18

Just after people's opinions on how they'd feel living opposite a very busy adult escort. Living in a quiet cul de sac but our house is the only one that would directly be able to see what's going on (worked it out when off on maternity leave before baby was here, lots of time on my hands!)

OP posts:
Nicknacky · 16/07/2018 22:47

Because you would be harassing her. Are you really too stupid to see that?

And she is more likely to be killed by a “loving” partner than she is a client. You aren’t stating any obvious fact at all.

Nicknacky · 16/07/2018 22:48

Holy fuck “advertising herself as a slut”?!

AnyFucker · 16/07/2018 22:51

the delted message by the op above includes some "quotes" from said woman's website where she was doing just that

Vashna is only directly repeating what she read. I wish she wouldn't though.

AnyFucker · 16/07/2018 22:51

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Vashna · 16/07/2018 22:53

That was a quote from the supposed website.

Nick - I’m done with this. I don’t believe anyone in CID would have your attitude.

Nicknacky · 16/07/2018 22:54

My attitude that harassment of women is wrong?! Would you rather I vilified her like you have?

Nicknacky · 16/07/2018 22:57

I go to work every day and treat people with the respect they deserve. If that makes me a shit detective then so be it. I’m not judgemental and I respect people’s decisions even if I don’t agree with them but if they aren’t committing a crime then there is nowt I can do.

FrancinePefko42 · 16/07/2018 23:04

After the resounding "success" of Victorian morality on prostitution, our current laws have been heavily influenced by the "Wolfenden Report" of 1957, a year after the Sexual Offences Act was passed, the Departmental Committee into Homosexual Offences and Prostitution agreed that it was not the state's job to police private morality

nibblingandbiting · 16/07/2018 23:19

Wtaf Raped for cash? Wow. Do you realise it's a choice the female makes?
How is it any different to meeting some guy from Tinder, a bar whatever and fucking him? Is she also raped. You know we can have sex for enjoyment and why not make some cash along the way. Don't knock it until you've tried it. I cannot think of many jobs that pay £100 an hour lol.

Oh and escorts don't always screw their clients. I don't haha. I just escort them to various places. Or have a chat over the phone. Or one guy he drives around London, I'm his passenger and we chat. That one yes is weird but hey, his money. Even been with him to meet his brother from an airport.

And here is the shocker. I could be your neighbour. You wouldn't know. I'm just dressed for a date, nothing different to any other single female. And I even have the audacity to live in Zone 1.

I'm kicking myself that I didn't start sooner. All those wasted years giving it away for free on tinder, meeting guys in bars etc.

And yes taxes are paid. But my expenses are also claimed back.

nibblingandbiting · 16/07/2018 23:24

And if any fucker vandalised any of my property or that of my visitors, not that they come here, I would utilise the law in full to ensure that twat was prosecuted.
There are many reasons why men pay to spend time with females. They aren't all weirdos with a family back home. Some are professional businessmen who haven't got time to find a partner or have just split up etc.

FrancinePefko42 · 16/07/2018 23:25

According to research done by Queen’s University on prostitution in Northern Ireland, however, 98% of sex workers didn’t want to see the introduction of legislation criminalising sex there. If that’s not representative, then I’m not sure what is.

The evidence from Sweden, where criminalisation was introduced in 1999, shows that that model isn’t working – the UN, UNAIDS, the World Health Organisation (WHO) and the Lancet Journal are all inclined to agree. There’s no proof of less sex buying

www.thejournal.ie/readme/prostitution-debate-sex-workers-2259652-Aug2015/

A couple of interesting quotes from an Irish sex worker prior to Ireland adopting the Nordic model (legalised sale, criminalised purchase of sex). The majority of sex workers opposed the legislation.

SpiritedLondon · 16/07/2018 23:28

nibbling. Well if you can afford to live in Zone 1 you’re doing better than me. What I want to know is do you mow your lawns at 07.30 on a Sunday because those fuckers are Rrrrrrrrreeeally anti social. Of course there are people who are not going to believe that you’ve made a choice.... you must have suffered some horrible abuse at the hands of someone. Perhaps you have I don’t know.... but I do hope you look after yourself and take care.

Nicknacky · 16/07/2018 23:30

spirited I want to know if you are as shit a detective as me! Becuase apparently I have a terrible attitude as one?,

nibblingandbiting · 16/07/2018 23:42

Lawnmower wankers annoy me as well. Same as pressure washers and letting your kids scream in the garden at that time. When did all this shit become acceptable? I don't remember any of this a few years ago.

Of course, it's a choice. Just like going clubbing on a Saturday on the pull is a choice. And that has probably cost more by the time you add up entrance fees, club drink prices, which she would pay once she 'pulled' a kebab on the way back to one of theirs. And a cab. That's fine.

Plus how many jobs can you buy clothing, makeup, have nails and hair done, buy shoes and sex toys and it's all tax deductible haha?

Yes, I look after myself and am safe, although I haven't been doing this long. And like I said, it's not all about screwing. I screw one guy a week. He pays for the hour, we finish well before then and I shower and go. Who has screwed who?

SpiritedLondon · 16/07/2018 23:55

nicknacky. im not sure I’m crap.... I think I was ” high handed”.... that might be a bit better but then I do have nearly 20 years service. We are both inept though so that’s something. I have asked for details of the research to show that the majority of sex workers are trafficked but no links have been forth coming that I can see. I have linked to a great support organisation for sex workers but I don’t think anyone actually cares about support they just want them to live somewhere else. So all in all - getting the community against her , reporting to the “ inept” police, leaving fake reviews on her website, putting eggs , shaving foam on her clients cars, breaking their windscreen wipers, taking their photos and printing them off and reporting her to HMRC for potential tax evasion is the proposed actions of the individuals on here apparently advocating for women’s rights. And all this is our fault because we won’t take action - despite not actually having any legal power.

FrancinePefko42 · 16/07/2018 23:56

Be careful nibblingandbiting, you'll soon be accused of glamorousing the profession, really being a man who wants to continue the exploitation of weak, feeble women or someone who has not accpeted that the only possible reason she has gone into this line of work is that she was terribly abused but not yet come to terms with it.

I am glad you posted. But even when sex workers speak out in person - their voices are ignored (as shown by the Irish example I posted above).

Legislation against the buying of sex has never and will never actually eliminate prostitution - even in countries where they still stone people to death for it. Draconian laws just send it under ground and make sex workers take greater risk.

It's interesting to read that the Irish police have no idea on how to actually enforce the Nordic model they have adopted. General levels of awareness of the new law are woefully low.

FrancinePefko42 · 16/07/2018 23:57
  • glamorising
SpiritedLondon · 16/07/2018 23:58

OP - maybe just go over and ask if her visitors can refrain from parking in your parking spot. Reasonable?

Nicknacky · 16/07/2018 23:59

spirited I suggested that. It was ignored.

And I love your post.

nibblingandbiting · 17/07/2018 00:00

Oh I know because as women we cannot possibly know our own minds.That we must be exploited in someway. I cannot possibly have gone into because the money is fucking good, I enjoy peoples company and I love sex. Although not fucking as much this way, but hey there's still tinder etc.

Nicknacky · 17/07/2018 00:01

nibbling All I care about is that you are safe. Which vashna would probably say I’m wrong for saying that.

FrancinePefko42 · 17/07/2018 00:02

Spirited
The HMRC suggestion came from me - only in that I think people should play by the rules when t comes to tax - whatever their line of work. If she has made this decision herself, is happy - then I would say she isn't breaking any laws. Live and let live.

SpiritedLondon · 17/07/2018 00:09

I agree Francine but why don’t people make that suggestion when the “nice” mum down the road starts her own cake business? It’s the use of it in a punitive way that I don’t like.

FrancinePefko42 · 17/07/2018 00:12

See this post from Vashna is very telling

And I’m tired of repeatedly hearing it’s not a crime. So what? It’s degrading and offensive to me

A classic example of an uninjured third party wanting the state to intervene, or private citizens to commit criminal damage to other's property because they do not approve of another person's moral choices.

What adult, consenting people do in private is none of your business or the state's business. That has been the UK's position since the decriminalisation of homosexuality and The Wolfenden Report.

SpiritedLondon · 17/07/2018 00:12

nicknacky we are potentially a million miles away from the stereotypical detective that used to work CID. And yes I know you suggested going to speak to the lady - like an actual human!

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