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Mature escort

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jazzyfizzles · 15/07/2018 10:18

Just after people's opinions on how they'd feel living opposite a very busy adult escort. Living in a quiet cul de sac but our house is the only one that would directly be able to see what's going on (worked it out when off on maternity leave before baby was here, lots of time on my hands!)

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Vashna · 16/07/2018 20:13

And yes, they should definitely criminalise paying for sex. That would be a start.

FrancinePefko42 · 16/07/2018 20:17

I can see three options
A: Allow it as long as it involves consenting adults in private, making a private financial exchange for a service they both agree to
B: Recriminalise prostitution completely on the basis that sex workers are slaves that need to be liberated and protected
C: Adopt the Nordic model (allow the selling of sex but criminalise the buying)

user1490465531 · 16/07/2018 20:43

A lot of women that choose to work for themselves can earn a good living.
Plenty of women choose to do this rather than do shop work cleaning etc.
I dont agree with forced prostitution of course but what about the women that want to do it over say a shitty minimum wage job.

SpiritedLondon · 16/07/2018 20:44

I don’t know who you believe is “ pro prostitution “ on this thread? I certainly believe that it’s a problematic question in society but I don’t believe the answer will be hounding an individual who if we are to be believed is the victim of some degree of some coercion or abuse by a patriarchal/ capitalist society. I do know though that I have not faced the pressures that have clearly led some women to take this path. It’s also arrogant to presume that sex workers are incapable of voicing their own opinions about their rights to work versus sex trafficking etc. If you’re interested in actually ascertaining their views as part of a wider research into the issues I suggest you have a look at some of the press releases from Ugly Mugs - which is a project designed to promote the safety of sex workers.

uknswp.org/um/press-room/num-statement-on-the-appg-on-prostitution-and-the-global-sex-trade/

jazzyfizzles · 16/07/2018 20:45

I thought about leaving a review but I can't work out how to do it or if you have to have booked a time slot to be given a link to leave the review.

She has a mobile number on her page but I'm unsure if texting it anon, could she report me for the likes of harassment? Not full on harassment as I'd only send one text...but something along those lines

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GossipLady · 16/07/2018 20:47

Most sex workers will not deal with text messages at all.

jazzyfizzles · 16/07/2018 20:53

But it's her business number for men to call, as long as she read it that's all

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JacquesHammer · 16/07/2018 21:02

Why mess around texting?!

Just do as you would with any other neighbour. “Your visitors are parking in our space, would be grateful if you could ensure they stop”.

Simple. No need for any big drama

AnyFucker · 16/07/2018 21:02

Why don't you, ya know, have a normal conversation with this lady ?

She's not a different species to you. Why all this cloak and dagger stuff ? Stay the fuck away from her website. You are starting to sound weird.

AnyFucker · 16/07/2018 21:07

Oh, and if you were wondering who reported your post upthread where you apparently relayed verbatim quotes from her website, it was me

If this situation is real, which I have reservations about, those quotes are googleable. So yeah, out her so some other spurious fuckers can have a good giggle

'Cos prostitution is just so hilaire isn't it ?

PortiaCastis · 16/07/2018 21:12

I would go and knock kn the woman's door and ask her to tell her visitors not to park in my space. I'd also try and get a good nosey.

AF is the only person on this thread posting common sense

Nicknacky · 16/07/2018 21:18

Stop thinking about reviews and texting and just ask her to stop using your space. Job done.

Vashna · 16/07/2018 21:35

Yes I do wonder about threads where there seems to be some agenda to push this idea of the “happy hooker” as if it’s somehow all quite hillaire and a bit glam / risqué and those of us who don’t “get it” are just uptight prudes. I think some posters enjoy ramming home the fact that prostitution is legal and there’s nothing you can do about it and they get off on watching women struggling with this. In the recent AMA thread there was a bit too much glee-factor in the details - like “yes I did 5 full massages with extras a day to mainly fat men for £22.25 each”; “yes I did find the brothel line ups humiliating if I never got picked - oh that was the worst,” “no I never refused a punter - how could I, that’s my job”, “if I was sore after 15 men I just took paracetamol”, “yes I felt totally in control and it was all my choice, though I have been giving blow jobs since age 5”, etc. Plus lots of details about how punters rate you online, and other snippets about men who like to drink the semen of previous clients out of condoms or whatever, but are nevertheless lovely normal men of all walks of life, “just like your husbands”.

IgamOgamJones · 16/07/2018 21:45

Vashna We live in a misogynistic society where women are treated as, at best, second class citizens instead of the powerful life givers we are. I find it so sad and disheartening to read these posts supporting the abuse of women, but I suppose that not all women see through the lies taught to us throughout our lives. I have three adult daughters and two granddaughters, I sincerely hope that all of them listen to what I and other women who do not support abuse in any form have to say. One day this argument will be no more, one day when women and men both realise what abuse actually is and refuse to perpetuate it any longer.

JacquesHammer · 16/07/2018 21:48

I find it so sad and disheartening to read these posts supporting the abuse of women, but I suppose that not all women see through the lies taught to us throughout our lives

I’m not supporting the abuse of women. My concern would be making her life even more chaotic and unpleasant. So yeah, if it was happening to a neighbour I’d be friendly and turn a blind eye to what was going on.

Nicknacky · 16/07/2018 21:50

I support women to make the choices that they do. I won’t judge them for selling sex for a living.

That’s not supporting abuse.

But igam You are agreeing with a poster who encouraged harassment of that woman and her “visitors”

jazzyfizzles · 16/07/2018 21:56

I didn't wonder and I don't care who reported it. If you're so dubious about the situation then just scroll by, I'm certainly not making it up just because you can't find it on google.

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IgamOgamJones · 16/07/2018 22:03

Nicknacky I'm not supporting harassment or abuse in any form, isn't that clear from my posts? Teach your sons [all mothers of boys] that 'using' women in any way is abuse. Maybe then women will stop having to suck cheesy cocks in order to pay the bloody council tax!!

FrancinePefko42 · 16/07/2018 22:23

Very interesting article here. Amnesty International does not support the Nordic Model (criminalising purchase but decriminalising sale) and is campaigning for it to be abandoned.

www.thenation.com/article/amnesty-international-calls-for-an-end-to-the-nordic-model-of-criminalizing-sex-workers/

AnyFucker · 16/07/2018 22:29

I didn't google anything

I'll leave that dubious pastime to the likes of you and anyone else joining in with the general hilarity

FrancinePefko42 · 16/07/2018 22:31

Is there any recorded example in any country at any point in history where criminalising prostitution actually meant there was no longer any prostitution?

The Amnesty study makes clear that it is still pretty rife in Norwa and Sweden.

Vashna · 16/07/2018 22:32

“a poster who encouraged harassment”

Fgs. I am a 41 year-old wife and mother of 3 from a tiny village in Spain. I’ve had a couple of parking tickets, that’s it.

No I don’t identify as a radical feminist. I’m not radical at all really, but, as you can probably tell, this is a subject I happen to feel strongly about.

So, if the police can do nothing or they can’t be bothered, I was being honest that I might well feel tempted to inconvenience the punters, in some way.

I never recommended abusing the OP or damaging her property. I said I do think it would be ultimately possible to have her stopped by public pressure, but only if the police are indeed totally inept and as a last resort, obviously.

Nobody has an idea as to the circumstances of this woman. She might see intervention as harassment, she might be unable to help herself and be glad that a neighbour / the police / the community did actually notice and not walk on by. Maybe if somebody had refused to “walk on by” and leave her to it years ago, she might be in a different situation today? Maybe she’s happy? Maybe she’s mentally ill ir desperate? Maybe one day the OP will open her curtains and the police will actually have arrived to cordon off the area because she’s been found strangled? Who knows?

Nicknacky · 16/07/2018 22:36

You encouraged vandalism and damage to vehicles parked outside her house. That’s harassment of her. Surely at 41 years of age you are more grown up than that?

Nothing to do with the police being inept, it’s not a crime.

Why have you got this obsession with her being found strangled?! That’s just weird.

Vashna · 16/07/2018 22:44

Nicky - if a punter sometimes has to stand in the street and make a spectacle of himself cleaning shaving foam off his car, then who cares? If he had to explain to his wife why his car is a bit sticky on a Thursday, then good. And if it leads to him buggering off, even better.

Do you think the prostitution cares what happens to these men after they paid up and gone? I doubt it, so why do you?

Obviously letting multiple random men into your house and advertising yourself as a slut or whatever it was, puts you at a much higher than average risk of violence. Do I really need to state the obvious?

Vashna · 16/07/2018 22:47

And I’m tired of repeatedly hearing it’s not a crime. So what? It’s degrading and offensive to me and I imagine the vast majority of the general public and I won’t pretend otherwise.

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