To wonder how high the correlation is between Brexit supporters and Trump supporters

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The press conference with Theresa May and Donald Trump today was one of the most bizarre things I've ever witnessed.

There's no logic in what Trump says, whether that be a recorded newspaper interview was 'fake news' or that he'd been in power for 160 days.

It seems he literally doesn't care what the truth is, he just says things as they pop into his head.

I honestly can't see why people support him, but likewise, I honestly can't see why people support Brexit.

Both defy logic to me.

The common theme between the 2 is immigration though.

Do Leave voters agree with Trump?

Garden , no not on this thread on a much earlier one in which I was having a "discussion" . The op on here is being a huge goady wassock with all this correlation crap . Know two leavers , both hate Trumpy Dump , know three Remainers one left wing the two others are right wing ! What can you do .

Tell Barnier we will pay not a single penny to the EU and that he can do his worst. Strike an immediate trade deal with the USA, Australia and China. If the EU threatens tariffs against our exports, do the same back: they lose more than we do. If this leads to a ‘hard border’ in Northern Ireland, so be it. We should leave the border soft, because that is what our people want. If the EU wishes to police it and set up customs posts from Donegal to Newry, let them, and then let the people of that island see who, exactly, is causing the problems. Call their bluff. It would be bumpy for a while. But scarcely less bumpy than it is now

This is an absolute load of crap.

@missionitspossible admitting you have biases /prejudices doesn't mean you don't believe in equality for all.

It's is impossible to reach adulthood prejudice free. This is widely accepted in the academic, psychological community. Unless you have grown up not interacting with other people, not watching TV, reading books etc you cannot be free of unconscious bias.

The clue is in the unconscious bit....you have no control over this. It's an automatic response and entirely related to your past, where you grew up and the interactions and experiences you have had. It happens in less than a second. It's an evolutionary reaction which instigates a fight or flight reaction.

It is very important to be aware of these biases so you don't let them impact on how you live and deal with certain situations.

A very simplistic, but common, example is automatically referring to a doctor as 'he' ...that doesn't mean you don't believe women can't be doctor's it just a reaction to centuries of societal expectations and gender stereotypes. If you are aware of this then you can consciously make sure you refer to the doctor as 'they or he/she'

You are not prejudice free but maybe just aware of your particular prejudices and act accordingly.

Voted leave, love Trump, hope that's ok

What’s your point? That all leave voters are ignorant racists? I voted leave, can’t abide Trump and am not an ignorant racist. Bad luck.

My best friend voted remain and quite likes Trump!

President Kennedy used to have lovers in the White House when he was President. President Clinton had the Monica Lewinsky scandal whilst President. I really don’t get the hate for Trump.

You don't understand the hate for trump ....really?
Even when he publicly says things like this?

'I've said if Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her.'

'A person who is very flat-chested is very hard to be a 10.'

'You know, it really doesn't matter what the media write as long as you've got a young, and beautiful, piece of ass.'

“You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the pussy."

sexual assault in the military is simply what happens when men and women work together.

Well it sounds like Brexit and Trump are going to be awkward bedfellows whether anyone likes it or not. Something for Trump hating leave voters to reflect on perhaps.

I think most Leave voters are confident that they can get fabulous and really quick trade deals that will make us all better off (in the long run!!) with an America First president: deals that will be far far superior to the ones we have with our European neighbours.

Well at the moment there seems to be some political playground antics between EU and U.K. as to who is America’s bestest friend in the whole wide world...ever!!

Very interesting and thought-provoking response @Blaablaablaa
It has changed my mind and I agree with you, although I see more female doctors than Male at my surgery so always (thinking back to conversations in relation) refer to doctors as ‘they’ but on the other hand if I’m flying and talking about a pilot I will always refer to him as ‘he’. I wouldn’t obviously if I happened to see the pilot and she was female but if not, always default to ‘he’ and ‘him’

I think most Leave voters are confident that they can get fabulous and really quick trade deals

I don’t. Where I live is quite a high Leave area but I don’t think anyone is under any illusions on that front.

I think it's closer to the truth to say that most leavers weighted the potential economic consequences against other things, and considered those other things more important.

There are so many places and issues touched upon by EU membership that it would be impossible to generalize about what the more important issue was for each person.

I think it's closer to the truth to say that most leavers weighted the potential economic consequences against other things, and considered those other things more important

There’s a variety of reasons I think. I voted Leave for economic reasons only. The inward looking attitude fostered by the EU is stifling opportunity. The world is a big place and we’d be better off looking to wider markets.

For others Leave was about sovereignty, and others it was immigration, or about fear about him much more the UK would pulled away from the trade agreement most would be happy with without the extras.

That’s the problem with a yes/no vote. As with any debate it tends to be the ones who shout loudest are the most obscene or extremist and this actually stunts dialogue.

I think for many voters it was simply things are not working well for me and haven’t been for years

Time for a real change

That’s what leaving the EU offered not just another five years of a different political party with their empty promises

@EnthusiasmIsDisturbed I agree with this. A ‘now, or never’ scenario.

"I think for many voters it was simply things are not working well for me and haven’t been for years

Time for a real change!"

Yeah but no one voted to be significantly poorer. People think things can't get any worse, they certainly can.

Leave voting areas will be worst effected.

But then it wont be their responsibility, it will be the wicked EU or the remainers for not backing it. Not the fact that they voted for something that couldn't be delivered.

"Tell Barnier we will pay not a single penny to the EU and that he can do his worst. "

So we leave the share of all UK assets held by the EU too? All EU funding for projects here stops immediately and all that are owed pensions will not get them. I'm sure actually that would be fine, I mean, the EU can just use our dividend from the EU bank to cover some of the deficit, and a huge amount of the rest was going to be spent in the UK or on UK citizens.

"Strike an immediate trade deal with the USA, Australia and China".

I'm sure if we offer very favourable terms then it could be immediate but it won't benefit UK exports much. Trade deals are complex and take time to sort out, but if you want the UK to be worse off, fine.

"If the EU threatens tariffs against our exports, do the same back: they lose more than we do. "

This is against WTO rules, and if we are falling back on these we can't dop this.

"If this leads to a ‘hard border’ in Northern Ireland, so be it. We should leave the border soft, because that is what our people want. If the EU wishes to police it and set up customs posts from Donegal to Newry, let them, and then let the people of that island see who, exactly, is causing the problems. "

OK but we must allow frictionless access to all other countries, you know thats what falling back on WTO rules means.

See, its all guff, meaningless hyperbolic drivel, the rantings of ignorance.

For some it was worth the gamble

I know people who haven’t had a wage rise for years they are just getting by. They knew it would probably get worse but felt it might then get better becuase it certainly hasn’t for them for a long time now

I absolutely understand where they are coming from they were being told constantly they would struggle if we leave the EU what seemed to be missed they were struggling and had been for years anyway

It wasn't worth a gamble, they voted against their own interests, and their children's for the benefit of someone else.

People are struggling and have been for years anyway, because of the very people who encouraged the brexit vote.

Those who voted that way will get what they wanted, long and hard.

The Tories have only been in power for a year before the Brexit vote before it was a coalition with the very party that wouldn’t rule out another coalition with the Tories that would now also hold another referendum but let’s be honest LibDems have no chance of gaining power

Not everyone’s life improved under Labour

And UKIP never had an MP until 2015 never mind influence government spending polices that have been made

The coalition was Tory dominated and the polices of harsh austerity were Tory driven. There was no actual need to cut as hard or as fast as they did.

The majority of people had rising wages under Labour, but it was the world financial crash, then austerity that brought people's living standards down.