To wonder how high the correlation is between Brexit supporters and Trump supporters

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The press conference with Theresa May and Donald Trump today was one of the most bizarre things I've ever witnessed.

There's no logic in what Trump says, whether that be a recorded newspaper interview was 'fake news' or that he'd been in power for 160 days.

It seems he literally doesn't care what the truth is, he just says things as they pop into his head.

I honestly can't see why people support him, but likewise, I honestly can't see why people support Brexit.

Both defy logic to me.

The common theme between the 2 is immigration though.

Do Leave voters agree with Trump?

That’s what I’m not understanding

My example of the pilot (again) do you really believe you never do stuff like that? This is the sort of stuff we don't even notice ourselves doing, so thinking about it it's almost pointless me asking (not you, anybody) because it would slip by at the time unnoticed.

I also think it's quite unhelpful to think ourselves without prejudice. The world is made up of people just like us and it's structured to disadvantage some people. If nobody thinks they have any prejudices then we won't examine our own actions and society and nothing will change to redress the balance.

I'd say the majority of mine and DHs family voted leave, but not one single person likes Trump, they all think he's a prize twat.

@KennDodd I am without prejudice. If you’re not, then fine, but don’t act like it’s accidental or you didn’t mean it. You keep mentioning pilots. Yes pilots can be both Male and Female, what is your point?

“The world is made up of people just like us”wtf does that even mean?

Yeah I’m with KenDodd. I think most if not all people have some implicit biases, be they based on race, sexuality, age, gender, religious belief or whatever else. I understand this is an uncontroversial view amongst psychologists. It’s healthy to try and be mindful of any potential biases you may have.

But to answer the thread’s question:

British Trump supporters are a minority. Almost all voted Leave, but they make up a relatively small section of Leave voters.

Remain-voting Trump supporters are exceptionally rare.

If you support Trump, you’re extremely likely to have voted Leave. If you voted Leave, you’re unlikely to support Trump. If you voted Remain, you’re extremely unlikely to support Trump,

But when the results came through a lot of Remainers said that England was finished and that either they or their doctor son, daughter, niece ect were emigrating . But not to the likes of the poorer Eastern European countries , but to Australia or USA. Firstly did they think that they could just walk into these countries and secondly who's the racist here ? The hypocrisy is breathtaking . I'm still shaking my head at it.

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Giraffesnmeerkats - I don’t think it’s that surprising that English-speaking people would typically prefer to emigrate to English-speaking countries, particularly if they’re trying to pursue a career. Obviously there are more options for those fluent in a second language but most aren’t. I don’t really see the hypocrisy?

Hedwig , really ? I'm stunned , have a think about it.

Thank you for the explanation Garden, it makes a degree of sense if the Remainer’s objection to Leave was based solely or mostly on immigration policy.

Obviously if Remainers were mainly or partially concerned with the economy, then emigrating for career progression in light of the result makes sense and isn’t hypocritical.

Happy to not get into a back and forth with you. As someone who emigrated for economic reasons I hadn’t considered the possibility of people saying they would emigrate as a result of a moral objection to the immigration policy changes. Your explanation was helpful.

Giraffesnmeerkats - as above, I hadn’t considered people emigrating to protest immigration policy. That would be bizarre and hypocritical behaviour, particularly if moving to a country with stricter policies.

But from the example you gave, I assumed you were talking about people who were worried about the impact on the economy and emigrating for that reason. No hypocrisy there.

Hedwig , ah I see , you took my comment personally . I had no idea of your situation and wasn't having a go at you . My comment was in response to the Remainers who said exactly that , ie England was now becoming too racist for them because of the leave vote or were actually from Poland for eg and felt unwanted but we're moving to Australia or USA , do you get it now ? And to be honest if you're not in the UK what's it too do with you ?

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Didn’t take it personally, just assumed that the people you had described as moving because ‘England was finished’ and who were professionals were moving for the money, so I didn’t see the hypocrisy. I hadn’t considered that some people might emigrate to countries with strict immigration policies to protest people not being allowed to emigrate to the UK. Anyone doing that is a moron.

I actually emigrated pre-referendum but a short term move has now become longer term one. Seems safer to see how it pans out from a distance, particularly as my industry could potentially be significantly affected.

And as a British citizen and voter, UK politics still have something to do with me, even if I’m less directly affected than a current resident.

Yes , having re read my post it does sound like I am saying that Remainers were moving because of the economic implications but no , they were saying that they were emigrating because to them the leave vote meant that the UK was too racist for them , yet were not inclined to move to Eastern Europe but to the richer parts of Europe I'd France or Germany or as I said the USA or Australia. That certainty tells me something about the way some Remainers think .

Garden , yeah I agree , just being a bit goady , I'm partial to a bit of arguing 😉 , but just sick of being accused of being thick and a racist because I had the temerity to vote leave.