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Hairless foofs

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Ginismyfriendx · 06/07/2018 01:02

So can't sleep and watching naked attraction (please do judge me, I deserve it)
Are completely bare foofs a thing now? Having had a nasty experience of an ingrown hair from shaving bikini line (which required anti-biotics) why go through that? Nevermind the faff. Who want's an evening shadow on their lady bits?
All for a bit of pruning, but uprooting?

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SickOfSitting · 10/07/2018 16:58

Noooo not hairy kittens and puppies... Grin

mummamarnis · 10/07/2018 16:59

I see more hairy cocks than I do hollywoods on men and back crack and sacks I mainly see on gay and trans days at the clinic. Hair down there male or female does seem to follow trends. We have all ages races and sexuality come in and I have had older women say they have only waxxed because they are going to have a exam as thats what that generation have been told you need to do so maybe its not a new thing for people to assume hair equals dirty. Just my experience and to be honest it really doesnt matter I would rather someone get checked if they have hair or not. It always seems to be women that are more hung up about the appearance smell hair no hair than men they need to worry about there appearance down below more than the women I think. Not surprising many men have advanced infections and sometimes prostate cancer and will say they didnt notice a smell rash or discharge and only come in when its got really bad I think it shows some man unless they are in a relationship always blame (insert female name) and call her a slag and when we ask who else they have slept with the list goes on and on. Men seem to only care what there dicks look and smell like when something is wrong. While us women have perfumed period pads, fem fresh, deodorants hollywoods and alike all because woman are made to feel conscious about vaginas from early teens and we will be less of a woman if we dont preen and fragance our vag.

SickOfSitting · 10/07/2018 17:01

That is true water although i started shaving when bushes were pretty much what everyone had and when it was a niche. I don't watch porn either so god knows where I got it from.. 🤔😬

SnorkFavour · 10/07/2018 17:11

I wax regularly, the full Brazilian, all off.

But it's only recently I've come to realise that the the reason I feel better without hair, is because my husband (and men in general) prefers/prefer it because of porn and it really depresses me.

I used to think that people who didn't want to shave were maybe boring, maybe didn't care how they looked, were definitely wrong about not shaving and I fully believed that I preferred it because it was my choice and my choice/opinion was that it looked cleaner and nicer. But the more I read these days the more I realise that all the people I dismissed as rampant feminists etc were indeed right and I find it so depressing.

So, I do wax fully, but I wish I didn't feel I had to.

mummamarnis · 10/07/2018 17:16

And the perfume and the preening can do more harm than good. The amount of times people have come in with shaving bumps they think are warts and reactions to fem fresh and fragranced pads causing problems. Plus UTIs from having waxes in dirty environments scarring from lazer and herpes from saunas and sun beds. We have even had women using raw bleach down there because they are conscious of smell. And hang ups about vulva size and vagina size as some considerate man has told them they are loose so we are getting this from somewhere. Vaginas always seem to need fixing when nothing is wrong a dicks will always be perfect unless a vagina has spoilt them.

NotAsGreenAsCabbageLooking · 10/07/2018 17:17

@rousette I meant it to apply to both sides, I’ve got no problem hearing that someone feels more womanly with a bush, or that they like the pheromones that it traps etc. but I do take issue with being told I am wrong, that sex feels no different with or without hair, or that I simply need to wash more to feel clean, or that I am bowing down to societal pressure or unconsciously wanting to look like a porn star.

None of that applies to me.. I fully accept that some women love a bush, some women love a Hollywood, and all the styles that come between those.

This thread started as some opinions and people finding ways to be insulted. It’s ended with catty comments and insistence on the right way to do things... from both sides.

QueenoftheNights · 10/07/2018 17:34

Can all the bare ones here please explain why sex is better?
I can't for the life of me get my head round it.

eg Your clit is not hairy. A tiny trim above ensures that any dangly hairs are removed.

Your inner labia are not hairy. Outer labia can have a quick light trim if they are getting anywhere near your knees.

If you are in the missionary position or woman on top, how does no hair make sex better? The stimulation is either coming inside your foof or onto your hairless clit.

This is a genuine question and I can't see how a small amount of hair makes any difference at all.

TornFromTheInside · 10/07/2018 17:43

I think there are reasons why it could be more intimate for some women... psychologically a woman may feel more exposed and explicit, but her entire pubis and vulva will be more sensitive to breath, temperature (the proximity of fingers, mouth etc which is a physical sensation.

That's not to say it's 'better' - just different, but that difference might feel more intense to some women.

For another woman, the sensation of having her pubic hair touched might be very erotic, and she might find THAT more arousing.

TornFromTheInside · 10/07/2018 17:46

I don't think anybody can categorically say one is better than another in terms of arousal. But I can see how both styles could create different sensations for different women - physically and psychologically, and that in turns leads to different levels of intensity.

NotUmbongoUnchained · 10/07/2018 17:59

Sex definitely feels better for me when there’s no hair. Everything feels more sensitive and gets more slidy if you know what i mean Grin

mummamarnis · 10/07/2018 18:00

Snork you make a good point im glad some women on here choose to do this for them but what I find disheartening is when I here "Oh i better wax because I have a date" like the missy elliott song with the line call me first so I can shave my cho cha proudly showing a ball of fluff. Or women new to dating after a long marriage lost there first husband or divorced thinking that they are expected to be shaved as men in the modern age wont accept them. I wonder how many beauty regimes would go out of the window if it wasnt for male ideas and modern beauty ideals. We can worry about fanny fluff when we have the most shocking rates of breastfeeding and high rates of FGM. One of the many issues are breasts and vaginas are sexualised even though they have other functions. Some women are made conscious about showing a bit of tit half the babies head is blocking as people will tut or oggle them so we and we need breastfeeding rooms and covers. Same with vaginas religions and society has made women feel they are not pure with hair or without being a virgin before marriage or women shouldnt enjoy sex hence FGM. So im glad women are making choices for them as I see too much aesthetic pressures being put on women for all the wrong reasons.

HelenaDove · 10/07/2018 18:01

All men do not watch porn.

If i posted all men wanted to commit domestic abuse i would be told not to be so ridiculous .

Why is it ok to treat men as one big homogenous mass when it comes to porn.................its actually insulting.

IF something happened to DH my dating preference would still be 60+ men Thats IF i chose to date at all because this thread is quite off putting tbh.

i discovered as a teen that i was better off dating older men as they were less shallow. When i was 18 i had a fling with an ex boyfriends 41 year old father. He was the one who showed me what my clitoris was for. the subject of body hair never came up (this was in early 1992) i never slept with his son by the way (it was not going to work because he saw me as an object)

i would never date someone my own age or younger.

People assume that women date older men for money but i think its more likely to be stuff like this.

the older men ive dated have been a hospital porter. (above) a care worker and a delivery driver. none of whom ever said a word to me about body hair. They are all now in their 60s.

Ive always been attracted to older men anyway. My friends liked Bros and other boy bands.................i liked Micheal Brandon from Dempsey and Makepeace.

Not all of us are wired the same way..............and that goes for men and women.

CosyLulu · 10/07/2018 18:10

HelenaDove umm, sorry but domestic abuse is NOT the same as porn. Porn is everywhere. My teenagers have seen porn but they have not committed domestic abuse.

However, I do agree that not all men like porn and that it's unfair to say they do.

SnorkFavour · 10/07/2018 18:11

All men do not watch porn

Almost all do, one who doesn't is rare, even though they swear blind they don't.

56% of ALL divorces now happen because of online porn and the problems it creates and those are the ones where the porn problem was obvious. Imagine what that number will be once the males who have grown up on it (it rewires your brain like a crack addict) are adults, imagine what the effect will be. And the number of girls watching is growing alarmingly fast too.

Roussette · 10/07/2018 18:11

notasgreen agree with your post

Seasawride · 10/07/2018 18:17

56% of divorces now happen due to online porn

They really don’t. That’s an excuse for shagging around and having a ‘porn addiction’ a good excuse for a cheat.

I am amazed anyone cares about anyone else’s vagina.
Your foof your rules

HelenaDove · 10/07/2018 18:18

Cosy i agree.....................i was just trying to demonstrate that people cant just say all men are the same to suit an agenda.

because that would be ridiculous.

Vashna · 10/07/2018 18:23

Snork, I agree that the impact of porn on the next generation is very worrying indeed. Most teen boys will probably think girls come hairless and don’t ask for anything in bed! I think it does reprogramme your mind at an alarming rate. My DH is 47 so at least he knew life before internet porn, particularly in the formative teen years.

Lethaldrizzle · 10/07/2018 18:27

I will not be encouraging my dds to denude! Hopefully the Bush will come back into fashion one day

SickOfSitting · 10/07/2018 18:37

Helena you've completely contradicted yourself there. You say you were just trying to demonstrate that people can't just say all men are the same to suit an agenda... because that would be ridiculous. Yet you've just said you would never date someone your own age or younger, aside from fancying older men, because you have a preconception that they are all shallow.

I've been married to an older man and dated them as well as men in my own age group. Each age groups have the immature ones, the vain shallow ones, the assholes, the lovely guys, the bad boys, the gentleman one.

My dp is in his 30s and is much more mature than my ex dh who is 50 odd.

SickOfSitting · 10/07/2018 18:40

And it's not ok to say most men watch porn because that's insulting yet it is ok to insult a whole mass of men who are your age group or younger by saying they are all shallow and you would never date them Hmm

NotAsGreenAsCabbageLooking · 10/07/2018 18:42

@Queen hairless sex for me means a much higher sensitivity.. not just on the clit, but the tease all around and working up to, whether that’s manual, oral or penetrative... and whether I’m on my own or with a partner. Every temperature change or breath or super light touch creates a reaction that I just don’t get when I’m hairy. I can feel my partner on me so much more.. it just heightens everything for me. I still enjoy sex when I’m bushy, but for me personally... hairless is always better. When I am hairy... the sensation is almost crunchy (it’s not crunchy... but that’s the closest I can think to describe it) and it does feel like a kind of barrier.. again, a poor comparison but in much the same way condoms ruin sex a bit for me. I like to be as close as possible.. to feel every sensation of skin on skin. I don’t get that when I’m bushy.

@Snork I don’t think it’s that rare to find a man who doesn’t watch porn. The majority do I’m sure... but I don’t think it’s rare per se.

TornFromTheInside · 10/07/2018 18:57

I don't watch porn. I do read erotica.

But what happens if a movie has an erotic element - like 9 1/2 weeks, or The Postman Always Rings Twice? when is it 'steamy thriller' and when is it porn?

Have I ever watched porn? yes, I've lived a bit. 95% never interested me because it's too primitive. There are possibly 5% of older movies that have a sense of eroticism to them that could work. But still, I don't bother.

SickOfSitting · 10/07/2018 18:58

Notasgreen crunchy! 😂😂 I sort of know what you mean in a weird fucked up way.. 😂

NotUmbongoUnchained · 10/07/2018 19:00

It’s not crunchy it’s MUFFled. Pahahaha.