Hairless foofs

[Ginismyfriendx]

So can't sleep and watching naked attraction (please do judge me, I deserve it)
Are completely bare foofs a thing now? Having had a nasty experience of an ingrown hair from shaving bikini line (which required anti-biotics) why go through that? Nevermind the faff. Who want's an evening shadow on their lady bits?
All for a bit of pruning, but uprooting?

"Funny this idea that hairless is cleaner!!"

Speaking for myself, @mummamarnis, I am not saying that hairless is cleaner, but that, for me, it feels cleaner. I accept that this is purely subjective, but it is my foof, and my choice.

Rest assured, if I were continually at the GP's, with infected cysts, thrush or bacterial vaginosis, and my GP was advising me to let the hair grow back, I would do so - but I am not, so he hasn't, and I won't be.

Ask a GP that see patients with ingrown hair pus cysts recurrent BV cases are advised to grow hair.

If they think hairless is cleaner its a myth. It's actually easier to pass on infections if your hairless such as herpes and you can still get lice if your hairless. We have hair for protection otherwise we wouldnt develop any at maturity. If you dont wash a hairless vag or a hairy one it will still smell piss off with this only a hairless vag is a clean vag comments.

I don't think it IS cleaner

I think it personally FEELS cleaner to me

I wash twice daily, but I find it easier to clean my skin rather than hair that can get sticky with normal secretions - esp during the day (when wiping with normal loo paper instead of access to a bidet or washcloth).

I am categorically NOT saying that it is unclean or unhygienic not to remove hair from the genitals, absolutely unequivocally not. I am not saying it IS cleaner to remove hair. I am saying that it FEELS cleaner to me to have a smooth undercarriage.

I've never had BV or thrush, and am in a monogamous relationship so if I were exposed to herpes I think pubic grooming would be the least of my concerns!

My gynaecologist was rummaging around down there sometimes as often as 3 times a week during my fertility treatment, over the course of 2 years - he never made any remarks about clinically recommending against removing pubic hair, but as my issues were with my uterus and my vagina and vulva were in perfect health, I don't imagine there was any cause for it to come up as a topic of conversation. If I did have recurrent infections or other issues I don't doubt that he would have advised against waxing

Joey, how can you be so sure you know what 90% of blokes are up to?

Many of us have in-depth conversations with our partners about societal issues. I am very aware of how my partner feels about porn; we have discussed it in depth. I don’t think those entire conversations were ‘lies’.

You need to consider that some of us who say our partners do not watch porn are basing this conclusion on a deeper understanding of our partner than simply asking: ‘Do you watch porn?’

Well men with beards dont get shaving bumps shaving rash red skin dermatitis ect. Whether you shave any hair anywhere on the body or face its personal preference it is just the idea that hairless is better which is not always true.

Well men with beards dont get shaving bumps shaving rash red skin dermatitis ect

Some do.

Joey just because you are into porn, doesn’t mean all men are. Frankly I’ve heard more than enough of your predilections to last a lifetime, please don’t assume that everyone is as obsessed with sex as you are.

bananafish81. Well I work in a GUM clinic and have seen teens not knowing how to wax or shave properly with cyctic bumps all over and cuts to the labia. We actually advise them if they are choosing to go hairless to not wear underwear with tight jeans or leggings as the hair layer protects the skin so sweat is not touching the skin which is a breeding ground for thrush. And all that about fertility hair or no hair makes no difference to the inside so your point is pedantic and irrelevant. In the same way Midwifes no longer recommend shaving the perineum and vagina before birth it makes no difference.

I'm simply saying that I saw a gynaecologist very regularly and he never told me to stop waxing - but presumably that's because I wasn't presenting with cysts, cuts, thrush or BV. I would imagine that if I were presenting with the issues you see in the GUM clinic that he would have recommended the same as you do. I'm sorry that you think my personal experiences are pedantic and irrelevant. I'm not speaking for anyone else, just for my own decisions and my own experiences

Everyone can choose what they do with the foof or any body hair for that matter. But like I said in my first post for some women especially young girls they are removing hair incorrectly just to appease boyfriends not for themselves and they are suffering issues because of it.

It’s a shame that porn has had such a big impact on us. I worked as a beauty therapist 25 years ago was only asked to do a full wax once (she was an escort and said her main client preferred it) I had never trained to do a full wax and was quite shocked she asked me even though I was well aware in some cultures in hotter climates it’s the norm for men and women

I waxed fully for a while personally do not feel sex was better have men preferred one was excited by it two (similar age) not so much

I keep myself tidy and expect men to and it goes without saying clean

My point was bananafish81 that a Midwife or fertility gyno wouldnt care about the outside at all its irrelevant. But shaving can and does have infuence on yeast and BV infections and we are seeing a rise of this as not everyone is adviced on how to remove the hair safely and are thinking about looks first and health later. Same like the vajazzle craze that was about a little while ago we had many cases of superglue being used not good.

Same like the vajazzle craze that was about a little while ago we had many cases of superglue being used not good

What is a vajazzle?

People superglued sparkles to their labia/mons? Is common sense completely dead now??

@mummamarnis - I absolutely agree with you that women, particularly young women, should not be being pressured into shaving/waxing by men. Dh does like me shaven, but he knows that it is entirely my decision whether to carry on or not, and if I decide to let it regrow, I will do so, and he won't get a say.

As I said earlier, like @bananafish81, I feel cleaner, when shaven - and yes, I know that this is entirely subjective, and I am not saying it is cleaner - but it makes me more comfortable, and that is what matters to me.

If, in the future, I find it is causing me the sort of problems you mentioned (thrush, cysts etc), I will reconsider - but for the moment, I am happy with how I am.

People superglued sparkles to their labia/mons?

Is that what that is??? Superglue? Fucking hell.

Strictly speaking Veet is not wise either. The skin of a vulva is not the same as skin on legs and you can cause real injury with Veet.
That's not to say it can't work, it absolutely can, but it's risky.

At the end of the day we make our own choices. Those choices are ours, but influenced by many things. It would be nice if young men and women had more facts and less fantasy to deal with.
You really don't need to shave to be feminine.
You really don't have to go with the crowd.
Men don't automatically prefer one over the other.
Plenty of men find what YOU have appealing because it's you, and that's a wonderful thing.

Plenty of men find what YOU have appealing because it's you, and that's a wonderful thing

Amen. Thank God we don't all feel we have to please a partner like this when it comes to our bodies and I know my adult DDs feel the same. It's a case of 'like me for who I am' and not 'I will mould myself into something you might want'

Very true

Sadly more pressure than ever is put on young women

We didn’t give a second thought beyond trimming of hairs that escaped from our swiming costumes/bikini

I really feel sorry for young women of today what so many feel is expected of them from the influence of the porn industry it’s horrifying

When I said it is the norm to shave, I meant it has become the norm.

There is a big difference in something being perfectly normal (ie; pubic hair) and something becoming perfectly normal (ie; to remove some or all pubic hair.

So nowadays it is the norm in the sense that that's how it has become.

If we are going to talk about our bodies and what is natural in the sense of "that is how the human body is naturally " then we should all be walking around with our natural hair colour (including grey hair), hairy legs/armpits/fanjos, un plucked eyebrows etc.

But we choose to dye our hair, paint our nails, pluck our eyebrows, shave or wax our body hair because we want to look and feel nice whether it's just our partners seeing it or wider society. If no one is going to see your underarm hair because you always cover them then why is that ok to shave them?

One thing is not better or worse than the other, it's all preference.

I think the poster talking about free porn was talking in the context of the man or woman viewing it isn't paying money to view it. If you had to sign up and pay I suspect less people would access it in that way.

No pubes here. Especially not in this heat.

Sex is better, I feel cleaner, (especially when I have my period) and no worries in swimwear etc.

Each to their own, just how I prefer it.

I do occasionally let it grow out, Husband doesn't every say either way if he prefers one or another as he wouldn't want to dictate what I do with my body, but I get more oral the less hair there is, so I can tell that it's more pleasant for him without - very understandably, hair in my mouth makes me heave.

So nowadays it is the norm in the sense that that's how it has become

How many women exactly have you asked or seen? Because it is not the 'norm' in my world, and I'm not sure your sweeping statement is right.

It MAY be the norm with women under the age of perhaps 35, but it's def not the norm for older women for whom such topiary was never on their radar as teens or in their 20s.

In RL I don't know of anyone who does it.

Preston I definitely agree about periods. I used to hate the blood when I had full pubes and toilet wipes just never fully removed the blood from the hair in between showers. I cannot use tampons so I have to use pads. I used to hate the pubes getting stuck to the sticky bits at the side of the pad too. My dp has commented being shaved tastes fresher if even if the fanjo/bush is clean.

There seem to be some women here who are a bit OCD to put it mildly about normal vaginal wetness. They are still harping on about the 'cleanliness' of no hair.

I shower in the morning and have a warm bath every night. If I'm exercising during the day I may also have a quick shower afterwards too especially if I'm on my way to work later.

I consider myself 'clean' . All this having to wash away secretions because hairs getting in them is ridiculous. Or rather not having hair because it's easier to keep clean...

Some of you are trying to justify hair removal on the basis of being 'clean' but you actually sound uncomfortable with your own natural bodies. Secretions will still hang around your vulva whether there is a bit of hair or not.

It's the same attitude that exists making women think they need buy 'feminine' washes and sprays to deodorise their vulvas.

So very very wrong.

Queen maybe it is a generational thing. Like someone said upthread about the film Wolf of Wall Street, the dad (in his 50s/60s maybe) was quite surprised to learn from his son that women shave their pubic hair now.

In my world it's normal and people wouldn't bat an eyelid and neither would I.

Shaving your legs isn't "normal" in the sense that women naturally have hair on them. But it has become the norm to remove it for vanity and because it feels nice when actually having hairy legs shouldn't be judged because it's perfectly natural to have hair on your legs.

My dp has commented being shaved tastes fresher if even if the fanjo/bush is clean.

Oh FFS! Ive heard it all now. A fresh tasting fanjo.

As if a hairy one tastes mouldy LOL!!!!!!

I didn't say it was cleaner I said I hated period blood stuck to it and found it hard to remove the hair between showers.

Shaving your legs isn't "normal" in the sense that women naturally have hair on them. But it has become the norm to remove it for vanity and because it feels nice when actually having hairy legs shouldn't be judged because it's perfectly natural to have hair on your legs.

Sorry but my legs don't feel and different if I've shaved them or not. In the colder months they are hairy and they feel just the same.

So are women removing pubic hair for vanity too? That's your argument.

How old are you?