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AIBU to be offended?

175 replies

RoyalSchmuck · 05/07/2018 20:06

I work in a very male orientated career, and I am one of two females in a team of 8 other men. Due to sickness / annual leave / meetings etc there was only me and two of the males on the team left in our department, but only myself who could do a certain task (only myself and another colleague, shall call him Y, can do this certain task).

Male colleague (shall call him B) comes over and asks if colleague Y is available to do said task. He is speaking to the guys and they say “no, but Royal over there can do it”. B glances my way and responds to them “well, when will Y be back?”

They say they don’t know and to speak to me, as they were busy with helping someone else. I smile at B and ask if I can help. He spares me another glance and again addresses the guys to say “can you ask Y to give me a call when he gets back?”

Which at this point, one of them gives him a funny look, stands and comes to stand by me and says “Royal can do it. Just let her know what you need.”

B (not looking at me but my Male team mate) responds “It’s fine. When Y gets back just tell him to pop over yeah?”

So I jokey say “why what’s wrong with me doing it?” But B doesn’t respond, to which my male colleague repeats my question. Still not looking at me he sort of shrugged and said “If you won’t pass on my message I’ll just message Y myself then.”

He walks away.

Male colleague is a bit confused by the whole thing, saying B was out of order and pointing out how uncomfortable he was that B didn’t even properly look at me. I ask whether I have some reputation I might not know about as a sort of embarrassed joke and he says none he’s heard and he’s just as genuinely baffled as I am.

Y returns from meeting, reads email from B and fowards it to me asking if I can help B as he’s busy with some work, CC’ing in B to the email. I explain what happened to Y and he rolls his eyes and goes “I wondered why he always privately messages me to do [said task], even when I tell him I’m busy with other stuff.”

The guys who were there then chip in and say it must be a religious thing and I shouldn’t worry about it.

I responded to the email and let B know I’ll work on the task. He responded by replying to colleague Y (but not me!!! Y had to tell me) “It’s fine if you’re busy Y I can wait.”

AIBU to feel a little offended? I’d understand if it was because Y did a better job etc but the task is one no one can do better than someone else, just a standard outcome. Myself and Y were hired at the same time and through talking with him at dinner it seems this certain colleague has made a comment before in passing that he doesn’t think “women should be working” and is known to be very very religious person. B works in an all-Male team and Y and co speculated that I may be the only female he comes across in our office simply because he needs said task by me and Y, and therefore he doesn’t need to interact with women any other time.

This might be so, but it doesn’t stop me feeling a bit offended!

I really, really want to raise this with HR but everyone says I should drop it, as it’s one ignorant person and in the long run I don’t interact with them at all (only time i would is for this task, which apparently B always asks Y to do anyway).

I just can’t believe it, nothing like this has ever happened to me before and I’m not sure if my shock is making me see this is as something bigger than it is, as no one else seems to think it’s a big deal?

Colleague who has the interaction, while agrees B was super rude, also is on side with everyone else that I should just leave it be and ignore B if I ever see him going forward.

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RoyalSchmuck · 05/07/2018 20:07
  • title should read “to feel offended” Blush
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Gardenpicnic · 05/07/2018 20:09

I would raise it but also, one day, B will need your help (Y will be on holiday / leave / just not be around) - and if you're the only other person who can do it he'll be stuffed then Grin karma ..

9amTrain · 05/07/2018 20:11

Yanbu. Arsehole.

EveningHare · 05/07/2018 20:11

big part of me says you should report it

the childish part of me says that every time his work comes in, your team gives it to you to do, and even if you dont do it - you tell him you did!

Mummaganoush · 05/07/2018 20:11

Its a ridiculous way of him to act, blatant sexism!! Please raise it with HR as its fucking disrespectful!!

ibblebibbledibble · 05/07/2018 20:12

I would not hesitate with raising something like this with my manager. I’d be fuming.

Racecardriver · 05/07/2018 20:12

I don't think you should feel offended because it is clearly not personal and he is a nutcase. In the long run it will probably make it easier for you personally if you just ignore him however if you are looking to make a point you may ask Y if he is willing to back B into a corner where he is forced to admit to not wanting you do it because you are a woman then take this to HR but this would cause you a lot of stress and be a bit childish. Any chance you may end up supervising B one day? If so that is what I would be aiming for in your position.

BettaSplenden · 05/07/2018 20:13

Damn right. He's a complete wanker and needs disciplining accordingly. What a shit situation for you and you should definatly take it further. What happens if a female ends up in his team? It's discrimination.

Saltandsauce · 05/07/2018 20:13

I would also feel offended, but i would have the attitude that I had have offered to help and he said no, so fuck him!
Tbh I think u should drop it and just not ask him again, it’s a good thing that your colleagues were just as baffled as you got the whole thing. X

Racecardriver · 05/07/2018 20:14

*purely because I like watching people squirm

Anon12345ABC · 05/07/2018 20:14

I'd be livid. It's disrespectful and illegal as he is discriminating against you because of your sex. Not on. I'd take it higher. Prick.

troodiedoo · 05/07/2018 20:14

I can see their point unfortunately but it's bullying is it not? So you should report it for sure. Sounds like b could do with a bit of training.

Saltandsauce · 05/07/2018 20:14

Sorry for errors, stupid fat fingers and autocorrect don’t mix 🤪

Gizlotsmum · 05/07/2018 20:14

I would mention it to your manager. Not in a complaint but just to raise awareness that if he is private messaging y and waiting on his availability it’s not because of you not being willing to help but because he refuses to ask/let you help

KeepServingTheDrinks · 05/07/2018 20:15

It sounds like all the colleagues except B have your back.

I would also raise it. I think I'd email B cc'ing in manager/HR and ask him to explain why he would prefer Y to do the task, despite you being capable and available.

I would also stop offering to help him. I'd let him suffer, and suggest to Y that he doesn't rush to help him either!

MissusGeneHunt · 05/07/2018 20:15

I'd definitely raise it, what an utter twassock. Bad luck OP, there's at least one in every workplace...

fruitbrewhaha · 05/07/2018 20:16

I would raise this with HR. Absolutely.

NewPapaGuinea · 05/07/2018 20:19

You can’t take it personally, but the prejudiced mindset shouldn’t be tolerated in the workplace. He’s expecting his religious beliefs/culture to trump what is acceptable in a professional environment. I’d speak with HR for clarity.

Backinthebox · 05/07/2018 20:20

I work in a predominantly male workplace too, and have only once come across such sexist behaviour. I was talked out of making a formal complaint and wish to this day that I had. People like this need re-educating or removing from the workplace. Don’t do anything petty, just make a formal complaint about his behaviour. Do you have a HR bullying/harassment/dignity at work policy? You’ll probably find it covers this kind of behaviour.

RoyalSchmuck · 05/07/2018 20:22

For context, I’ve never had any issues with B before (only ever seen him in passing and not actually spoke) and I now know this is because he always asks Y to do said task - the rest of his team come to me quite happily. I just always assumed I never did it for him because it never landed in my work load, but now know B has apparently always just waited for Y to get back into the office!

I’m very, vey tempted tomorrow to do said task, and tell Y to respond that “Royal did it” in an email to B as a poster above suggested to make him squirm, but on the other hand I don’t want to do it out of sheer principle!

Also, Y is taking three weeks off during the six week holidays to go abroad, so inevitably I will need to do the task... Am I in my right to refuse do you think? Hmm

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Trinity66 · 05/07/2018 20:23

I wonder if it were a man being treated so shabbily would all the men tell him to forget about it

troodiedoo · 05/07/2018 20:28

^spot on!

HeartCurrent · 05/07/2018 20:29

Oh I wouldn't even wait,
I'd have to have a face to face confrontation with him,
I'd need an explanation and if he still kept up his awful sexist behaviour,
I'd be telling him straight to his face that I'd be taking it further.
How rude and dismissive not only of you because your a woman but as a colleague too.
This has clearly been happening for a while.
You are definitely not being unreasonable what so ever.

HollowTalk · 05/07/2018 20:34

Imagine if he was forced into saying, "Well actually, OP, I don't want you to do this paperwork because you have female genitals." Absolutely bloody nonsense.

eddielizzard · 05/07/2018 20:37

I wouldn't do anything. Y is going away for 3 weeks. B will need stuff doing and Y won't be around. Will he be able to wait for 3 weeks until Y is back or will he have to eat humble pie and come and ask you?