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AIBU in wondering why people are STILL walking their dogs in this weather? *trigger warning*

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ProfessorMoody · 29/06/2018 10:31

This was posted by my vet on Facebook. It's a long and distreasing read, but please, if you're one of the people walking your dogs in this heat, don't do it Sad

Heatstroke Warning for Dog Owners

Heat Stroke – what’s the big deal?
There are a lot of posts warning dog owners to be careful in the hot weather, but still there are dogs being exercised at inappropriate times of the day. When the weather is as hot as it is, as suddenly as it is, it may even be inappropriate to exercise your dog at all.

Why does everyone make such a fuss about dogs getting too hot? Clearly there are far too many owners who don’t understand the importance of the warnings. The fact is, excess heat can all too easily be fatal – yes fatal – your dog will die. Not just die, they will die a particularly horrible death.

In all the many warnings and articles that are around there doesn’t seem to be any description of the process of heatstroke and how it actually causes a dog to die. Well maybe they should, because perhaps then owners would be a bit more serious in their efforts to protect their dogs.

If you are of an easily offended disposition, don’t continue reading. However, if you are of an easily offended disposition and still take your dog out in the heat then continue reading and be offended but educated. You have been warned

Today a dog died of severe heat stroke – exercised at 9 o’clock in the morning. If it was a child, the parents would be convicted of man slaughter and sent to prison. The long coated dog was being exercised in the local park at 9am this morning – it was already 21˚C. The owners where throwing a ball for the dog. Our loyal faithful friends will still pander to our requests of going with us for a walk or fetching the ball thrown even when they are under extreme stress of excessive heat. They don’t know to self regulate, because their pack leader has instructed them to walk with them or chase a ball etc.

I turned up to the local park to park my car and walk to work. It was in the car park that I discovered the dog with the owners next to their car, suffering from severe heat stroke. The scene was; the dog lying flat out on his side, semi-conscious, with extreme panting. His mouth and tongue were swollen up and a dark red/purple colour, there was a white frothy coating of saliva, the tongue and gums being fairly dry. The owners were trying to get the dog to drink some water, but the dog was entirely unable to do so. His belly was distended from panting and gulping air; this in itself can then restrict breathing.

I was not equipped to take the dog’s temperature, but I could feel it was dangerously high. His pulse however was unusually slow. I had water in my car and dowsed the dog’s coat down and we wetted a towel to stretcher the dog in to the car and for him to lay on in transit.

The dog was not registered with my practice, so I instructed the owner to take the dog to their own vet immediately.

Once I had finished my shift at work, I phoned the owner’s vet to see if they could tell me how the dog was. He was dead. A 5 year old, fit and healthy dog - dead. A death that was completely preventable. I asked the vet for detaila explaining that I was going to write this post. They were in support as long as names weren’t mentioned. Names are irrelevant, as this story will be happening all over the country.

The owners took the dog straight to their practice were he was treated immediately. His body temperature was just shy of 42˚C. A normal temperature range for a dog is 38.3˚C to 39.2˚C, a rise of just 1 – 2˚C can have major effects on the dog’s body systems. The nurses commenced cooling of the dog and the vet put him on a drip with rapid infusion of fluids and electrolytes. However, within 10 – 15 mins of being admitted the dog began to seizure. Seizures are caused when the electrical impulses in the brain misfire and cause like an electrical storm in the brain so the muscle fibres of the body rapidly twitch uncontrollably. In this case, the excess heat in the brain disturbs the electrical impulses. This is an added issue as the activity of the muscles then acts to increase the dog’s temperature even more. It was at this point that the vet went to gain consent to administer anaesthetic to the dog to try and reduce the seizure and lower the respiratory rate. But as the vet was talking to the owner, approximately 20 mins after arriving at the practice, the dog began to vomit and pass diarrhoea. The vomit and diarrhoea was full of blood. This even to the untrained reader, you can appreciate is bad news.

Once this was discovered, the dog’s gums were checked and small red/black spots were present, along with areas of bleeding on the abdomen. At this point the vet had to return to the owners and request consent for euthanasia.

The dog was suffering from disseminated intravascular coagulopathy. This is a fancy veterinary term that means the dog’s body systems was unable to clot his blood and therefore he was bleeding internally. In the veterinary world, it is nicknamed Death Is Coming. The process is not fully understood, but it is thought that the excess temperature prevents the body from performing the myriad of chemical reactions that allow it to function normally. Loosely, this causes the body to activate clotting, causing hundred of clots within the body. Once all the clotting factors are used up, the blood can no longer clot, so widespread haemorrhage ensues. It causes major organ failure; the kidneys, the liver, the heart and the lungs cease to function effectively. With a bit of luck, the dog is unconscious by this stage, as this must be hugely uncomfortable and a terrifying death.

For all those dog owners who think this was because the dog was chasing a ball and that is why he overheated, this can happen with your dog sat in the sun in the garden. It can take up to 60 days for a dog to acclimatise to a change in climate. I am pretty sure 60 days ago it was pouring with rain.

Once the dog becomes mildly overheated, unless they are cooled, they will continue to overheat. Dogs cannot sweat effectively and can only really lose body heat through panting. The process of panting can in itself cause excess body temperature if it is prolonged or laboured.

So, if you think it is too hot to put a thick coat on and go for a run, don’t make your dog do the same. If you think it is too hot to sit in direct sunshine for more than a few minutes whilst wearing a woolly jumper, then don’t make your dog do so. If it is too hot to stand on the pavement with your shoe and socks off, then don’t make your dog walk on it. If you don’t want to sit in your car without the air con on even if you have all windows wound down, don’t leave your dog in the car. If you are ever in any doubt of how to care for your dog in the warm or hot weather, speak your local vet practice. Better to speak to them now than your vet speaking to you to request consent for euthanasia.

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ProfessorMoody · 29/06/2018 10:31

*distressing

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Egg · 29/06/2018 10:37

This is really sad and worrying. We have the back door open and our dog chooses to go and sunbathe and then comes back in and lies inside for a bit. She does this on and off all day. I wonder if I should stop her from going out and lying in the sun so much? She’s doing it out of choice but I didn’t realise how bad it could be for her.

musicposy · 29/06/2018 10:37

We have to really watch because our white dog keeps letting herself into the garden and we find her lying out there in full sun. She seems to love sunning herself but she seems to have no idea when it's too much and when I notice and shoo her indoors she's panting madly. I locked her inside yesterday.

Thank you for the post as DD is at home with the dogs today and I will text her and remind her that MadWhiteDog has no common sense and to allow her out to pee only and then lock her back in.

We are walking them round the block in the evening after it's dark. I'd rather they had less walks and survived.

musicposy · 29/06/2018 10:40

Egg I wouldn't let her. Like humans, they often don't realise until the damage is done.

HarrietKettleWasHere · 29/06/2018 10:40

It's bloody awful. I see dogs being walked in this heat every day, central London, no water with them, blazing hot pavements and no shelter. One is a st bloody Bernard, still in full coat.

Ohmydayslove · 29/06/2018 10:40

We haven’t walked our little one for 2 weeks now just running around the garden and then lying in the shade.

I saw a poor one being walked yesterday around 1pm and was worried about paw burning. I wound down my car window and told the woman off Shock I know awful of me but it made me so cross.

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HarrietKettleWasHere · 29/06/2018 10:42

I told off a dog walker who had about five on him at the hottest point of the day and he told me I was ignorant as dogs needed a walk every day otherwise it's cruel Hmm

StripySocksAndDocs · 29/06/2018 10:43

There's two dogs with heat stroke in my vet practice now. One is critical and comatosed.

I was just out walking by myself this morning before 10. It wasn't a planned walk so I'd no water. Took 40 mins, I got back very thirsty and with a headache, and I don't have a fur coat.

I saw two dogs being walked, felt concerned for their paw pads.

ProfessorMoody · 29/06/2018 10:44

Harriet - my vet also put on Facebook yesterday that a dog will not die without a walk, but could die with one. It's not cruel to not walk them, it's more cruel to walk them. I'd be concerned if he was my dog walker!

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VioletCharlotte · 29/06/2018 10:44

I walk mine either early morning or late at night when it's cooler. We go to the wood where is shady or somewhere there's water so he can cool down. He'd go stir crazy if I didn't walk him at all.

MadisonAvenue · 29/06/2018 10:45

My dog is keeping well out of it. I couldn't find him in the house the other day and eventually saw his tail sticking out from behind the door of the guest room. That must've been the coolest spot that he could find because he's never lay there before.

He did venture outside yesterday afternoon when I went down to the gate to slide the bolt across, we only have a small garden so he was only out for seconds but when I stroked him his back was hot.

I walk him first thing, at around 6.30am for an hour, and then we're waiting until 9pm-ish to take him out into the woods again.

I looked out of the window at around 3pm earlier in the week and couldn't believe that a neighbour was taking out her two dogs. Poor things.

UpstartCrow · 29/06/2018 10:46

People who think its a good idea to walk their dogs on a hot pavement should take their shoes off.

ProfessorMoody · 29/06/2018 10:46

I have a brachycephalic breed (not my choice, I might add!) and if I let him, he'd lie in the sun all day. I let him out yesterday for a wee and he wouldn't come in because he wanted to lie in it. He's a knob Grin It wouldn't take long for him to overheat as he has a very thick coat, and he is far too stupid to come in if he felt hot.

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BrazzleDazzleDay · 29/06/2018 10:47

Our neighbours have all been out at 6am giving them a big walk then taking them round the forests once the suns passed over the hills early evening

argumentativefeminist · 29/06/2018 10:48

Ours are out for no more than an hour at 6:30am and about 8pm. We have to be very careful with one because she has epilepsy, which is definitely worse in hot weather, but then if she doesnt walk, she gets stressed which also puts her at greater risk. We close the sliding doors and curtains in the lounge when the sun starts coming in and have fans on which seems to be working for now.

Northernmummy30 · 29/06/2018 10:49

I read somewhere that you should test the tarmac with your hand, and if it’s too hot to handle, don’t take your dog out to walk on it. My pooch hasn’t been out for a walk for two days, and I’m not ashamed of that. She’s got thick hair so I’m not risking it x

missyB1 · 29/06/2018 10:50

It’s a case of being sensible. I’m off out in a minute with my dog, we are going to some woods which are very shaded. I will take water for her and we won’t be there long. She would go crazy if she had to stay home all day.

SnugglySnerd · 29/06/2018 10:52

I don't have a dog but I have 3 small children. We've been out in the garden this morning playing in the shade before it gets hot. I brought them inside just before 10 am as it was starting to feel very warm. We will stay indoors now until late afternoon.
Surely this is common sense and would be sensible for dogs too - short walk first thing and again in the evening at dusk when it's cooler.

RedDwarves · 29/06/2018 10:55

Surely common sense says that need to be walked early in the morning, or in the evening when the sun has dropped, not in the heat of the day?

My dogs are walked every day of the year, and I live in Australia. Summer is no exception. But it means being conscious of the fact that they need to be walked before 9am.

Some people are just idiots.

Hoppinggreen · 29/06/2018 10:55

Ddog was walked in the shady woods at 7am and although he might come out on the patio with me he will be under the awning - I can sit in the sun or he will want to join me!
He will get another shady walk at around 7 and then at 9.30
I’ve also moved his fluffy bed so he lies on the wooden floor, which is much cooler
He’s a long nosed breed but very hairy

SunnySkiesSleepsintheMorning · 29/06/2018 10:59

Very sad. :( If you work all day and you’re out of the house all day, it’s a difficult dilemma. My dog walker takes them in the morning and obviously only on grass and in shady areas. This means it breaks up the day a bit but they still aren’t left on their own for long periods. As it happens, I work part time as does DP and I work from home a lot, so we cancel walks on hot days but not everyone has this luxury. I do agree no dog should be walked on pavement in the heat of the day though.

Maelstrop · 29/06/2018 11:01

Mine goes to the park for 15 minutes currently and to the river if we're not working. Fairly simple. The carpark is literally yards from the water. Downstairs is tiled, handy for hot dogs.

Ohmydayslove · 29/06/2018 11:02

How can you like these warnings to your own face book? I am so crap at technology.

Abra1de · 29/06/2018 11:03

21 degrees doesn’t seem that hot for a short walk, I’m alarmed to hear this.

ProfessorMoody · 29/06/2018 11:07

It doesn't, but then I suppose if you couple it with a fur coat, a mediocre cooking system and running and fetching a ball, it's a different story.

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