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AIBU in wondering why people are STILL walking their dogs in this weather? *trigger warning*

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ProfessorMoody · 29/06/2018 10:31

This was posted by my vet on Facebook. It's a long and distreasing read, but please, if you're one of the people walking your dogs in this heat, don't do it Sad

Heatstroke Warning for Dog Owners

Heat Stroke – what’s the big deal?
There are a lot of posts warning dog owners to be careful in the hot weather, but still there are dogs being exercised at inappropriate times of the day. When the weather is as hot as it is, as suddenly as it is, it may even be inappropriate to exercise your dog at all.

Why does everyone make such a fuss about dogs getting too hot? Clearly there are far too many owners who don’t understand the importance of the warnings. The fact is, excess heat can all too easily be fatal – yes fatal – your dog will die. Not just die, they will die a particularly horrible death.

In all the many warnings and articles that are around there doesn’t seem to be any description of the process of heatstroke and how it actually causes a dog to die. Well maybe they should, because perhaps then owners would be a bit more serious in their efforts to protect their dogs.

If you are of an easily offended disposition, don’t continue reading. However, if you are of an easily offended disposition and still take your dog out in the heat then continue reading and be offended but educated. You have been warned

Today a dog died of severe heat stroke – exercised at 9 o’clock in the morning. If it was a child, the parents would be convicted of man slaughter and sent to prison. The long coated dog was being exercised in the local park at 9am this morning – it was already 21˚C. The owners where throwing a ball for the dog. Our loyal faithful friends will still pander to our requests of going with us for a walk or fetching the ball thrown even when they are under extreme stress of excessive heat. They don’t know to self regulate, because their pack leader has instructed them to walk with them or chase a ball etc.

I turned up to the local park to park my car and walk to work. It was in the car park that I discovered the dog with the owners next to their car, suffering from severe heat stroke. The scene was; the dog lying flat out on his side, semi-conscious, with extreme panting. His mouth and tongue were swollen up and a dark red/purple colour, there was a white frothy coating of saliva, the tongue and gums being fairly dry. The owners were trying to get the dog to drink some water, but the dog was entirely unable to do so. His belly was distended from panting and gulping air; this in itself can then restrict breathing.

I was not equipped to take the dog’s temperature, but I could feel it was dangerously high. His pulse however was unusually slow. I had water in my car and dowsed the dog’s coat down and we wetted a towel to stretcher the dog in to the car and for him to lay on in transit.

The dog was not registered with my practice, so I instructed the owner to take the dog to their own vet immediately.

Once I had finished my shift at work, I phoned the owner’s vet to see if they could tell me how the dog was. He was dead. A 5 year old, fit and healthy dog - dead. A death that was completely preventable. I asked the vet for detaila explaining that I was going to write this post. They were in support as long as names weren’t mentioned. Names are irrelevant, as this story will be happening all over the country.

The owners took the dog straight to their practice were he was treated immediately. His body temperature was just shy of 42˚C. A normal temperature range for a dog is 38.3˚C to 39.2˚C, a rise of just 1 – 2˚C can have major effects on the dog’s body systems. The nurses commenced cooling of the dog and the vet put him on a drip with rapid infusion of fluids and electrolytes. However, within 10 – 15 mins of being admitted the dog began to seizure. Seizures are caused when the electrical impulses in the brain misfire and cause like an electrical storm in the brain so the muscle fibres of the body rapidly twitch uncontrollably. In this case, the excess heat in the brain disturbs the electrical impulses. This is an added issue as the activity of the muscles then acts to increase the dog’s temperature even more. It was at this point that the vet went to gain consent to administer anaesthetic to the dog to try and reduce the seizure and lower the respiratory rate. But as the vet was talking to the owner, approximately 20 mins after arriving at the practice, the dog began to vomit and pass diarrhoea. The vomit and diarrhoea was full of blood. This even to the untrained reader, you can appreciate is bad news.

Once this was discovered, the dog’s gums were checked and small red/black spots were present, along with areas of bleeding on the abdomen. At this point the vet had to return to the owners and request consent for euthanasia.

The dog was suffering from disseminated intravascular coagulopathy. This is a fancy veterinary term that means the dog’s body systems was unable to clot his blood and therefore he was bleeding internally. In the veterinary world, it is nicknamed Death Is Coming. The process is not fully understood, but it is thought that the excess temperature prevents the body from performing the myriad of chemical reactions that allow it to function normally. Loosely, this causes the body to activate clotting, causing hundred of clots within the body. Once all the clotting factors are used up, the blood can no longer clot, so widespread haemorrhage ensues. It causes major organ failure; the kidneys, the liver, the heart and the lungs cease to function effectively. With a bit of luck, the dog is unconscious by this stage, as this must be hugely uncomfortable and a terrifying death.

For all those dog owners who think this was because the dog was chasing a ball and that is why he overheated, this can happen with your dog sat in the sun in the garden. It can take up to 60 days for a dog to acclimatise to a change in climate. I am pretty sure 60 days ago it was pouring with rain.

Once the dog becomes mildly overheated, unless they are cooled, they will continue to overheat. Dogs cannot sweat effectively and can only really lose body heat through panting. The process of panting can in itself cause excess body temperature if it is prolonged or laboured.

So, if you think it is too hot to put a thick coat on and go for a run, don’t make your dog do the same. If you think it is too hot to sit in direct sunshine for more than a few minutes whilst wearing a woolly jumper, then don’t make your dog do so. If it is too hot to stand on the pavement with your shoe and socks off, then don’t make your dog walk on it. If you don’t want to sit in your car without the air con on even if you have all windows wound down, don’t leave your dog in the car. If you are ever in any doubt of how to care for your dog in the warm or hot weather, speak your local vet practice. Better to speak to them now than your vet speaking to you to request consent for euthanasia.

OP posts:
starcrossedseahorse · 29/06/2018 17:37

Guide dogs/assistance dogs need extra special care in this weather too.

Ohmydayslove · 29/06/2018 18:01

platypusPie

Get you. Makes you so mad though doesn’t it!! Poor poor dog

Ohmydayslove · 29/06/2018 18:03

QueenBeePeaBee

Are you a vet? Personally would rather trust the vets advice Hmm

Ohmydayslove · 29/06/2018 18:04

Yes must be very difficult for people with assistance/guide dogs?

MaMisled · 29/06/2018 18:10

Thanks for this thread. Was just wondering if I should take mine for a little wander before I go to work (it's 6.10pm) or make them wait til DH gets in at 9pm. They had a shady hour from 8 to 9am.

They can wait.

HostaFireAndIce · 29/06/2018 20:59

(unless lots of vets are posting it and pretending they wrote it)
A quick google search pulls up loads of examples of this exact text, the oldest I found being over a year old.

ProfessorMoody · 29/06/2018 21:45

Oh really? I didn't think to Google it! Ah well, it still stands in most cases I suppose.

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umpteennamechanges · 30/06/2018 09:13

@ProfessorMoody

Ha....no! I'm in Hampshire. Someone's vet is telling porky pies about writing it themselves then!

Not that it matters as it's the message that's important...

Abra1de · 30/06/2018 09:51

I took my clipped terrier out for half an hour in a breezy 25 degrees on a shady walk at around 5pm. She was absolutely fine, running from time to time and enjoying herself. She won’t run unless she wants to as she is stubborn as a mule and at nearly eight she is sensible about not over-doing it.

When we came in she had a drink and followed my husband round the garden to see what he was up to, So was obviously not shattered.

I think there’s some risk of panic here. These temperatures are not unknown in southern England at least.

I’m not saying that leaving dogs in hot cars or getting them to run around in heat is good.

KinkyAfro · 30/06/2018 10:57

FFS no-one is saying don't walk your dogs, just don't do it at the hottest time of day. My lab has a short walk at 5.30 in the morning and one about 10.30 at night, we always have water with us. During the day she's at mums, there is a cheap gazebo on the grass so she might go and lie under that for a bit, but she won't stsy out long. She also has a paddling pool which she likes to sit in and is regularly crunching on ice cubes. We also have water bottle sprays which we use when she's in the house, she likes it sprayed on her belly and paws, and we've bought neckerchiefs which we soak and put round her neck

ProfessorMoody · 30/06/2018 10:59

@umpteennamechanges They are indeed!!

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Abra1de · 30/06/2018 11:52

Was that aimed at me kinky?

Why the swearing?

Abra1de · 30/06/2018 11:53

Pushed send too soon.. just you same to be saying the same next thing as I am 🤨

Branleuse · 30/06/2018 12:04

We have an elderly dog and I dont think she should be walked in this weather, and a younger adult dog that is fine with being walked in the cooler parts of the days.

I do think that in general we get a bit hysterical about the summer in this country. Dogs and people do live in much hotter countries than this, and its hardly the Sahara.

NutElla5x · 30/06/2018 12:20

Great post op.I had to have a word with my son about playing fetch in the garden with our dog yesterday.It's a shame but I'd rather have a slightly more bored live dog than a dead one.

Floralnomad · 30/06/2018 12:27

I’ve not read the whole thread but frankly if it was my vet that had written that I’d be pretty disappointed that they didn’t take the dog and deal with it themselves , it doesn’t matter whether they are registered at their practice . The vet in question would have no guarantee that the owners were going to go straight to a vet and frankly it’s neglectful on the part of the poster ( if it is indeed true) .

KinkyAfro · 30/06/2018 12:30

It was aimed at all the people that think the advice was scaremongering. I wouldn't go out in this weather at the height of the sun if i didnt have to, so why drag your dogs out in it. They might be quite happy to want to walk but they dont know the dangers so why risk it

Notevilstepmother · 30/06/2018 13:05

I sometimes used to take my dog for indoors walks around pets at home, the local garden centre and go outdoors.

VioletCharlotte · 30/06/2018 13:16

I'm helping at an outdoor event today. It's so hot, it's ridiculous. And people have brought their dogs. It's making me so angry to see these poor dogs plodding along in the boiling sunshine, while their oblivious owners look at the stalls, sip ice cold water, eat ice cream, etc

Ruffian · 30/06/2018 13:36

I do think that in general we get a bit hysterical about the summer in this country. Dogs and people do live in much hotter countries than this, and its hardly the Sahara

I agree. Have taken ddog out from 8.30 to 12 today, partly wooded walk with swimming in the river, partly open fields in full sun. he's had a fantastic time and is fine.

WinehouseAmy · 30/06/2018 16:46

Again I will ask, what support/adjusts can be made for those who rely upon and need a dog to complete daily living tasks?
What about search dogs during festivals?

SK166 · 30/06/2018 19:49

@Winehouse - I think there are various products that can help out in those circumstances. Cooling coats, special boots etc. Because yes, there are working animals that have to continue in this heat. I imagine their owners/handlers are also hyper-vigilant though, in terms of providing constant rehydration and using those products that are available. Also, a lot of working dogs, especially the assistance dogs, probably aren’t going to be doing any kind of exercise more strenuous than a slow walk which I guess makes the situation more manageable.

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