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AIBU in wondering why people are STILL walking their dogs in this weather? *trigger warning*

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ProfessorMoody · 29/06/2018 10:31

This was posted by my vet on Facebook. It's a long and distreasing read, but please, if you're one of the people walking your dogs in this heat, don't do it Sad

Heatstroke Warning for Dog Owners

Heat Stroke – what’s the big deal?
There are a lot of posts warning dog owners to be careful in the hot weather, but still there are dogs being exercised at inappropriate times of the day. When the weather is as hot as it is, as suddenly as it is, it may even be inappropriate to exercise your dog at all.

Why does everyone make such a fuss about dogs getting too hot? Clearly there are far too many owners who don’t understand the importance of the warnings. The fact is, excess heat can all too easily be fatal – yes fatal – your dog will die. Not just die, they will die a particularly horrible death.

In all the many warnings and articles that are around there doesn’t seem to be any description of the process of heatstroke and how it actually causes a dog to die. Well maybe they should, because perhaps then owners would be a bit more serious in their efforts to protect their dogs.

If you are of an easily offended disposition, don’t continue reading. However, if you are of an easily offended disposition and still take your dog out in the heat then continue reading and be offended but educated. You have been warned

Today a dog died of severe heat stroke – exercised at 9 o’clock in the morning. If it was a child, the parents would be convicted of man slaughter and sent to prison. The long coated dog was being exercised in the local park at 9am this morning – it was already 21˚C. The owners where throwing a ball for the dog. Our loyal faithful friends will still pander to our requests of going with us for a walk or fetching the ball thrown even when they are under extreme stress of excessive heat. They don’t know to self regulate, because their pack leader has instructed them to walk with them or chase a ball etc.

I turned up to the local park to park my car and walk to work. It was in the car park that I discovered the dog with the owners next to their car, suffering from severe heat stroke. The scene was; the dog lying flat out on his side, semi-conscious, with extreme panting. His mouth and tongue were swollen up and a dark red/purple colour, there was a white frothy coating of saliva, the tongue and gums being fairly dry. The owners were trying to get the dog to drink some water, but the dog was entirely unable to do so. His belly was distended from panting and gulping air; this in itself can then restrict breathing.

I was not equipped to take the dog’s temperature, but I could feel it was dangerously high. His pulse however was unusually slow. I had water in my car and dowsed the dog’s coat down and we wetted a towel to stretcher the dog in to the car and for him to lay on in transit.

The dog was not registered with my practice, so I instructed the owner to take the dog to their own vet immediately.

Once I had finished my shift at work, I phoned the owner’s vet to see if they could tell me how the dog was. He was dead. A 5 year old, fit and healthy dog - dead. A death that was completely preventable. I asked the vet for detaila explaining that I was going to write this post. They were in support as long as names weren’t mentioned. Names are irrelevant, as this story will be happening all over the country.

The owners took the dog straight to their practice were he was treated immediately. His body temperature was just shy of 42˚C. A normal temperature range for a dog is 38.3˚C to 39.2˚C, a rise of just 1 – 2˚C can have major effects on the dog’s body systems. The nurses commenced cooling of the dog and the vet put him on a drip with rapid infusion of fluids and electrolytes. However, within 10 – 15 mins of being admitted the dog began to seizure. Seizures are caused when the electrical impulses in the brain misfire and cause like an electrical storm in the brain so the muscle fibres of the body rapidly twitch uncontrollably. In this case, the excess heat in the brain disturbs the electrical impulses. This is an added issue as the activity of the muscles then acts to increase the dog’s temperature even more. It was at this point that the vet went to gain consent to administer anaesthetic to the dog to try and reduce the seizure and lower the respiratory rate. But as the vet was talking to the owner, approximately 20 mins after arriving at the practice, the dog began to vomit and pass diarrhoea. The vomit and diarrhoea was full of blood. This even to the untrained reader, you can appreciate is bad news.

Once this was discovered, the dog’s gums were checked and small red/black spots were present, along with areas of bleeding on the abdomen. At this point the vet had to return to the owners and request consent for euthanasia.

The dog was suffering from disseminated intravascular coagulopathy. This is a fancy veterinary term that means the dog’s body systems was unable to clot his blood and therefore he was bleeding internally. In the veterinary world, it is nicknamed Death Is Coming. The process is not fully understood, but it is thought that the excess temperature prevents the body from performing the myriad of chemical reactions that allow it to function normally. Loosely, this causes the body to activate clotting, causing hundred of clots within the body. Once all the clotting factors are used up, the blood can no longer clot, so widespread haemorrhage ensues. It causes major organ failure; the kidneys, the liver, the heart and the lungs cease to function effectively. With a bit of luck, the dog is unconscious by this stage, as this must be hugely uncomfortable and a terrifying death.

For all those dog owners who think this was because the dog was chasing a ball and that is why he overheated, this can happen with your dog sat in the sun in the garden. It can take up to 60 days for a dog to acclimatise to a change in climate. I am pretty sure 60 days ago it was pouring with rain.

Once the dog becomes mildly overheated, unless they are cooled, they will continue to overheat. Dogs cannot sweat effectively and can only really lose body heat through panting. The process of panting can in itself cause excess body temperature if it is prolonged or laboured.

So, if you think it is too hot to put a thick coat on and go for a run, don’t make your dog do the same. If you think it is too hot to sit in direct sunshine for more than a few minutes whilst wearing a woolly jumper, then don’t make your dog do so. If it is too hot to stand on the pavement with your shoe and socks off, then don’t make your dog walk on it. If you don’t want to sit in your car without the air con on even if you have all windows wound down, don’t leave your dog in the car. If you are ever in any doubt of how to care for your dog in the warm or hot weather, speak your local vet practice. Better to speak to them now than your vet speaking to you to request consent for euthanasia.

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sakuramiyagi · 29/06/2018 12:29

We've been walking our Labrador at 10pm and sticking to the tree lined walkways in our local park.

There is no way I would take her out before the sunset. She gets so warm just popping out to toilet at the moment.

siwel123 · 29/06/2018 12:30

Take ours for an hours walk at around 7 am.
Then maybe an hour at 6pm, but usually less in this weather

PlatypusPie · 29/06/2018 12:30

Not about walking but I was working at a clients office on Monday . It was already hot when I parked early in the virtually shadeless car park. At about 11, when it had really built up a temperature , one of the reception staff came in to find if any of us had car with reg number X, because there was a dog left in it with no windows open, , which just happened to have been noticed by a handyman on site. It’s not a car park that someone would park in if they did not have business in the building- it’s not particularly near any other non residential buildings or a station and there is plenty of ( shady and free ) parking on the road.

It must have been roasting in there, would have been even with a window open. I learnt after that they had failed to find the owner on site - nice car, so presumably not someone dumping the car and the dog ( can’t even go there as a thought) . Police and the RSPCA were called and the door was forced somehow to release the poor thing. I may hear more about it next week but if that person had been identified that morning they would have come in for a hard time from the outraged occupants of that building😡

YearOfYouRemember · 29/06/2018 13:01

I've been going at 1:45 for half an hour and she has her main walk from 8/8:30 but where we go it's got plenty of shaded areas. Is 1:45 too hot then?

Currently DDog is dozing on the floor. She knows when it is walk time but I can distract her. She's nearly two so not had a huge amount of sun experience since we are in the UK.

Rochelaise18 · 29/06/2018 13:15

My collie gets walked first thing in the morning (around 5-6AM, sometimes earlier). We go to the local reservoir and walk part way round for her to have a paddle if she decides on first paw dip that the water isn't too cold for her delicate little feet. At that time of the morning, where I park is in the shade of a hill and a tree and part of the path is bordered with trees which she goes looning through before leaping off one of the banks in an attempt to knock me over on her way to loon through the ferns and grass on the other side of the path, before heading back for the trees.

TwoSweetenersImBitterEnough · 29/06/2018 13:18

@YearOfYouRemember yes any time from middday - early afternoon is when it is hottest. Take a walk barefoot wearing your winter coat and then decide whether or not you should continue with the walks, I think you will be surprised just how hot you get, and how burn your feet end up. And your dog may seem happy to go on walks but please remember they were bred specifically to do as they are told and pander to what we want as the owners.

MasonJar · 29/06/2018 13:18

Forcing a dog to chase a ball in hot weather is obviously stupid but so is saying dogs shouldn't be walked when its hot. Owners need to use common sense.
I took my dogs out at 10 am and we spent an hour in the woods, it was cooler there than in the house. They chased the odd squirrel, did a lot of sniffing, splashed about in a stream and had a great time.

YearOfYouRemember · 29/06/2018 13:20

Thank you TwoSweeteners.

beeefcake · 29/06/2018 13:27

The people who are walking their dogs super early in the morning or super late at night, good for you!! Well done for putting your dogs needs before your own inconvenience.

It's the idiots who claim their dogs need a walk every day but can't be bothered to get up earlier or go out later at night that cause the problems.

beeefcake · 29/06/2018 13:29

Jena I saw one of those dogs at a local boot fair a couple of years ago, the weather was really hot but he was wearing some type of cooling jacket type thing and the owners were constantly damping down his fur.

Sadly a lot of people aren't this thoughtful.

BrendasUmbrella · 29/06/2018 13:35

finnmcool Ask your friend what she normally does. I wouldn't go out buying specialist equipment for a weekend of dogsitting! Just don't take her on a long walk in the middle of the day. If you can only walk her when it's hot, stick to short walks and keep her on the grass as much as possible.

MasonJar · 29/06/2018 13:39

My dogs wake up at 8am, have breakfast then snooze for an hour or so.
They'd be decidedly unenthusiastic if I woke them at 6am to go for a walk Grin.

Myfavouritechild · 29/06/2018 13:45

Professor could you contact your vet and ask him to make that post public and then share it with us? I live in the US and we are due a week of >32 degrees. It would be great to share this far and wide

elloelloello · 29/06/2018 13:52

Mine had his big walk at 6 this morning - we usually do that when it’s light enough anyway. He’ll go again about 9 tonight, again we usually do it when it’s light enough so he’s used to it.

He’s with me at work all day - our building is quite rural and we back on to a wood with some large ponds where he loves to swim so we have a couple of mooches over there during the day.

We’ve got a courtyard and he usually has free rein to come and go but I’ve had to shut him inside with a fan or he’d be out there sunbathing in the full sun

diddl · 29/06/2018 13:56

I also usually walk my dog three times a day.

Atm the afternoon walk isn't happening & we have a garden where they can wee, but if not I'd be having to take them out!

As a pp put, sense is needed!

Cyw2018 · 29/06/2018 13:58

Mines been having morning (as early as I can around 5 month DD) on-lead short walks, but had to give him a proper walk this morning as his boredom was making him destructive. So headed to local lake at 830 this morning for a long swim/walk.

If he has access to the garden he also has access to a paddling pool.

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 29/06/2018 13:58

I live near the entrance of a woods trail where people walk their dogs. I've seen them out 7/half 7 walking the dogs. Far too hot for doing it during the day.

Soubriquet · 29/06/2018 14:01

I've been walking my dog at 8-9pm at night.

When the temperature is much cooler.

I wouldn't risk my poor dog suffering who would still love to walk.

I'm so cross with my next door neighbour. She walks her staffy at 3pm on her way collecting her kids from school. She stops on the green and throws the ball for 10-15 minutes first.

The dog is panting heavily when they are waiting at thare school.

I haven't said anything as she's polish and doesn't speak much English. Sad

Ohmydayslove · 29/06/2018 14:02

platypus

It’s disgraceful neglegance I honestly wouldn’t hesitate to smash the window. Angry owners should be bloody lynched. Bastards.

HyacinthsBucket70 · 29/06/2018 14:04

People are so bloody lacking in common sense it's untrue. Ours has had the shortest walks on record and he's not a happy bunny at all but he's out before 9am and after 9pm solely to do his business as the little sod won't go in the garden! If he did, he wouldn't be going out at all.

I think people should be prosecuted and their dogs removed - we're too soft on animal cruelty in this country.

Soubriquet · 29/06/2018 14:07

These have been making the rounds on FB.

If this doesn't make people take notice, nothing will

AIBU in wondering why people are STILL walking their dogs in this weather? *trigger warning*
AIBU in wondering why people are STILL walking their dogs in this weather? *trigger warning*
Aeroflotgirl · 29/06/2018 14:08

There is a sign going round Facebook, if you need to be told not to leave me in the car when it is hot, you are too thick to own me. That is totally right, some people are stupid, ignorant and careless, and should not be owning animals.

WickedGoodDoge · 29/06/2018 14:12

If anyone wants a shareable link to the post, it also popped up on my fb feed here:

www.facebook.com/Rhodes2Safety/posts/1669753983071868

Squidgee · 29/06/2018 14:15

We have a King Charles, he's got a full coat at the moment as he isn't due for his summer clip until next week (he's booked in to be scalped lol)

We haven't taken him out at all, he's indoors with access to a shady patio and we've got fans going to keep him (and us) cool.

DistanceCall · 29/06/2018 14:17

I live in Spain, where it's rather hot. Dogs do take care of themselves, and will seek the shade when they need it, and not move much during the hotter hours.

Don't force your dog on a walk, but don't shut them in either. Just let them come and go if you can. If you don't have a garden or similar, your dog will probably want to go out at night, or at a cooler time of day. Follow their lead.

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